The new heavens and new earth is a permanent earthly sabbath - just like the very first sabbath in the Garden of Eden, before the fall of Adam. The new Jerusalem comes down to earth from heaven. There isn't actually any scripture teaching that the new heavens and new earth has to wait for another thousand years after Christ has returned.
Nope.
The NHNE happens after the 1,000 years. Your argument is there is not, not a 1,000 years.
You don't accept the 1,000 years either.
Some have pointed out the 1,000 years is just the first millennium of the NHNE. NOPE!
The Millennium is that part of 1 Corinthians 15 where Jesus reigns until all things are subjected. Jesus reigns on earth, because Adam's punishment is over, and sin no longer reigns.
Kind of cute, that humans think they govern themselves. Right now sin governs them. In the Millennium Jesus governs them.
Now grant it, when men can govern themselves without dictatorship, they have more freedom. But no one can escape sin and it's control.
Your question could Adam sin before disobedience. The answer is no. God actually let creation be creation for 1,000 years before God planted the Garden. How do humans avoid the laws of physics today? If a son of God accidentally killed himself or someone else, would that have defied physics? Yes. It was impossible to die. The physics of creation prevented death from occurring. We just avoid those laws, because trying to break physics is impossible. If they fell off of a steep cliff, they would land without being hurt. If they swam in the ocean, they still would not die, but would just keep swimming, or never get into the ocean at all. The problem now is that sin and death govern the laws of physics, so the result is different than before Adam disobeyed. Yes there are verses of Paul that covers all this. The law of sin and death is part of the laws of physics.
An even more interesting point is that the elements did not have half lives and could not break down and cause decay. So technically no one can date the earth from such means, because that ability did not exist until God placed creation under the bondage of the law of sin and death. But that is another subject altogether. And a highly debatable one with many ethical points of how did God manage that, so that Satan could cause so much deception in science. In that promise made there was give and take:
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
This extends all the way to the formation of knowledge, and who thinks they know what about creation itself.
Ok already too controversial. If you deny the length of that 1st Sabbath, fine. But why even ask about time before sin, if you think Adam sinned within 24 hours of being created? How much thought and diligence is necessary to mess up in 24 hours before literally messing up?
Why is Satan loosed on humanity after 1,000 years? BTW all alive after the 1,000 years never sinned. If they had disobeyed, they would be dead, not walking around on earth alive. None of them are in Adam's flesh either. No sinners, and no death and decay again. Nothing can die during the Millennium. Now about the punishment of no rain?
"And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be
the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."
How many times do you think this will happen? Did you know that some places never get any rain now? Some places that get rain may have times of drought. So the punishment is already what happens normally all the time. Now is there no death because of rain, or no death because of the laws of physics that prevent death? Even without rain, people will not die, they probably won't even get sick. It would mean they have to figure out how to get more food from other nations. In other words it is a plague of humility and having to depend on outside help instead of being well provided for within that nation. How many times would a nation need to be humbled, or the leadership replaced for negligence?
When it comes to declaring this Millennium righteous or full of sinners, one has to set aside the current mentality of sin itself. If the Cross removed sin once and for all, why question that ability? None of Adam's dead corruptible flesh is getting into the Millennium period. At the 7th Trumpet God says enough is enough. Sin is over. Adam's dead flesh is over. Daniel's 70 weeks are over. Any one who declares it was over in the first century, should understand it is really over at the Second Coming. Not the Millennium. That is just getting started. Certainly everything declared, will be going on during the Millennium. But no one will need to be saved from sin and death, because the physical laws will not even allow sin and death. Right now those laws have to kill us if we break them. Except most forget it is not the breaking of a law that kills us now. It is the law itself. The law is not actually broken. The law is applied and death happens. You cannot breath in methane and proclaim you broke the law. The law states if you breath in methane, you will die. Death is obeying the law, not disobeying or breaking the law. Once sin and death are removed from creation, so will salvation and being lost. It will be impossible to break the laws of physics. It will be impossible to do anything to die by, when it comes to the natural order of things. The only death will be breaking laws that are set up that can be broken. And no, we have no idea what they are or will be. They probably would not make sense to us under the Law of sin and death anyway. Children obey your parents. In today's society even that has become nonsense. If that were a law, it would be breakable, without destroying life, other than the instant it is broken, death would happen immediately, and the laws of physics would point out such death is natural and expected. Yet we would consider that cold and indifferent without empathy or sympathy. Isaiah 65 calls them cursed. Under the Law of sin and death that is natural for children to disobey, not a curse. Seeing the difference between life without sin and death and life with sin and death may seem strange or even demanding that we give up some things we take for granted.
We claim the Cross eradicated sin. But can we say it eradicated faith and the need of salvation? We literally have to give up every belief we have to fully understand life without sin and death.
If you can get past the need to have sinners in the Millennium, as well as salvation, sanctification, and even Christianity, you are well on the way to see Adam and Eve before Adam disobeyed and brought sin into the world. And no, I am not saying giving that all up will help in the here and now. The point is it will have no place in the Millennium. Because literally the whole plan of Salvation and the Cross was about Adam's disobedience. The Millennium rule of Christ is not about Adam's disobedience.
What is being placed under subjection would simply be every new human born in those 1,000 years. And the time to outgrow disobedience is 100 years. That is the length of childhood according to Isaiah 65. Another law of physics, without there being a law of sin and death present. Which brings us to the point, all alive at the end, who were not the first generation have a test about as big in magnitude as the law given to Adam. That first generation is immune to Satan and the second death. The test is when Satan is loosed, who will be deceived? But not a test like Abraham offering up Isaac, or Job being persecuted for his faith. There probably won't even be a law that says: "Don't listen to or follow Satan". Yet Satan is allowed to smooth talk millions into a promise just like he did to Eve, and one third of the angels. There is no logical reason why, just like there is no logical reason why God planted a tree, and then told Adam not to eat from it.
Now you may say, because God already planned it all out and the Cross was reality before creation. That may be plausable, but is it logical from our perspective? I am not saying we should deny the point. Saying it is not logical, is not denying it happened. It is not logical just like many think it can not be logical to have a Millennium without sinners, salvation and a Christian witness. The logical thing is too keep doing the same thing in the Millennium as we do now, while at the same time calling out Amil for doing the same thing by making the Millennium, the here and now. It is not the here and now, because the Millennium will no longer have the law of sin and death dictating the laws of physics. It will once again, as in the first Sabbath, Day of the Lord, be a physical creation where death will literally be impossible.
Remember what Jesus said while the Law was still in effect:
