Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Behold]

But I never believed that prayer could change the world.

If you want to change the world, then just lead one person to Christ.
You've now changed the world.
You've not only changed the world, you've changed THEIR World as well, as their world will never be the same again.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

If Trump were a king, such protests would not be allowed.

It's an Emperor ! comes to mind in that regards !

Kings ? Queen ? is this what the Marxist Socialist dupes are truly barking on about ? but such as Marxist or any Socialist, Communist is truly all about being dominated by a Dictator ! is it not !

King or Queen power is not based on a Dictatorship at all !

So we see that a Mob is being played for fools ! that is clearly supporting Iran as a Dictatorship ! because such dupes clearly only love Dictatorships !

 

[Wrangler]

So we see that a Mob is being played for fools !

Yup. It's not the evidence but the seriousness of the charge pumped up with irrational emotions. Useful idiots they're called.

 

[amigo de christo]

Revelation 21:
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

As you can read here? Israel SHALL have their names with those 12 Angels! So, tis already a done deal!
Well?
As MUCH of a done deal concerning those who lay claim that:
"I've read the back of the Book." "God wins!"

Twist much . The stones on the breastplate of the high priest each represented a tribe of Israel .
But that didnt mean GOD was pleased WITH all of ISRAEL .
The twelve tribes are simply the jews whose FAITH was IN GOD and thus IN HIS CHRIST .
A jew can be every bit as much an anti christ as can be a gentile . And can and will be damned
just the same IF their faith be NOT IN CHRIST . Time we start to realize this and get busy
with the one true gospel of JESUS CHRIST
and not ra ther the gospel of john haggee and scores of others who sold the jews a lie
as well as to christendom who sadly many have bought into such a lie .

 

[ProDeo]

Yup. It's not the evidence but the seriousness of the charge pumped up with irrational emotions. Useful idiots they're called.

Useful idiots was introduced by Lenin.

Cold War Roots: The term was used to describe naive Western visitors, journalists, and intellectuals (e.g., George Bernard Shaw) who toured the Soviet Union and returned to praise it, ignoring reports of mass suffering under Stalin.

 

[NayborBear]

Twist much . The stones on the breastplate of the high priest each represented a tribe of Israel .
But that didnt mean GOD was pleased WITH all of ISRAEL .
The twelve tribes are simply the jews whose FAITH was IN GOD and thus IN HIS CHRIST .
A jew can be every bit as much an anti christ as can be a gentile . And can and will be damned
just the same IF their faith be NOT IN CHRIST . Time we start to realize this and get busy
with the one true gospel of JESUS CHRIST
and not ra ther the gospel of john haggee and scores of others who sold the jews a lie
as well as to christendom who sadly many have bought into such a lie .

So you believe that GOD doesn't know who are His? IRREGARDLESS of those blue in the face activists?

Come. Let us go forward in this. A Holy endeavor:

2 Thessalonians 2:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Ya see? There is an "order of battle" on GOD'S things to do list that, if done out of order? Puts one at odds with not only Jesus Christ of Nazareth? But, also HE who sent Him!

 

[amigo de christo]

So you believe that GOD doesn't know who are His? IRREGARDLESS of those blue in the face activists?

Come. Let us go forward in this. A Holy endeavor:

2 Thessalonians 2:
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Ya see? There is an "order of battle" on GOD'S things to do list that, if done out of order? Puts one at odds with not only Jesus Christ of Nazareth? But, also HE who sent Him!

I already KNOW GOD knows who are HIS . and it aint the blue in the face activists .
ITS THOSE WHO T RULY BELIEVE AND FOLLOW CHRIST JESUS .
And while many can claim they do , upon quick examination had , ITS SIMPLE to see it was men , NOT CHRIST they ever
followed . ANY man , any woman , any child , any angel and anything
that puts the flesh of man On a pedastool , THEY DO NOT KNOW CHRIST .
I am telling us all , a jew can and will wail every bit as loudly as a gentile on THE DAY OF THE LORD .
Just like a jew and a gen tile can both b e an anti christ .
This sheep keeps it real simple . IT BE JESUS PREACHING TIME . And we better know well
the JESUS we fo llow and heed aint some other flesh pleasing or flesh exalting jesus .

 

[Marvelloustime]

I already KNOW GOD knows who are HIS . and it aint the blue in the face activists .
ITS THOSE WHO T RULY BELIEVE AND FOLLOW CHRIST JESUS .
And while many can claim they do , upon quick examination had , ITS SIMPLE to see it was men , NOT CHRIST they ever
followed . ANY man , any woman , any child , any angel and anything
that puts the flesh of man On a pedastool , THEY DO NOT KNOW CHRIST .
I am telling us all , a jew can and will wail every bit as loudly as a gentile on THE DAY OF THE LORD .
Just like a jew and a gen tile can both b e an anti christ .
This sheep keeps it real simple . IT BE JESUS PREACHING TIME . And we better know well
the JESUS we fo llow and heed aint some other flesh pleasing or flesh exalting jesus .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Twist much . The stones on the breastplate of the high priest each represented a tribe of Israel .
But that didnt mean GOD was pleased WITH all of ISRAEL .
The twelve tribes are simply the jews whose FAITH was IN GOD and thus IN HIS CHRIST .
A jew can be every bit as much an anti christ as can be a gentile . And can and will be damned
just the same IF their faith be NOT IN CHRIST . Time we start to realize this and get busy
with the one true gospel of JESUS CHRIST
and not ra ther the gospel of john haggee and scores of others who sold the jews a lie
as well as to christendom who sadly many have bought into such a lie .

@amigo de christo

 

[NayborBear]

I am telling us all , a jew can and will wail every bit as loudly as a gentile on THE DAY OF THE LORD .

You have NO idea!
So, you keep on doing that which you do?
And, I'll keep on doing that which I do.
GOD Bless Israel!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Useful idiots was introduced by Lenin.

Cold War Roots: The term was used to describe naive Western visitors, journalists, and intellectuals (e.g., George Bernard Shaw) who toured the Soviet Union and returned to praise it, ignoring reports of mass suffering under Stalin.

Old Shaw must of seen some angle on it ? a hatered for the majority of people ?
As that is what Communism foundations truly is about, in keeping everyone down !

I have talked to many a Socialist and they all have one thing in common, a inferiority complex, that they do not like anyone to be better then them ? they cry not fair !

Me on the other hand, I like that others are better than me, it's inspiring !

In regards con-artist, they are an abomination !
How ever Their are right wing Capitalist criminal dogs about who's evil is to clearly exploit the system and even promoted by Socialist, as they truly pander to such criminal intent, we had the idiot Leader of an Airline Company rip of late that clearly riped off the Tax Payers and all, just walk away with so many millions ! he was a typical rat bag ! but you do not hear the Socialist up in arms ! because the simple minded idiots have not been told, too be as so !
Oh he is a good mate of our Socialist PM !

 

[Aunty Jane]

Old Shaw must of seen some angle on it ? a hatered for the majority of people ?
As that is what Communism foundations truly is about, in keeping everyone down !

I have talked to many a Socialist and they all have one thing in common, a inferiority complex, that they do not like anyone to be better then them ? they cry not fair !

Me on the other hand, I like that others are better than me, it's inspiring !

In regards con-artist, they are an abomination !
How ever Their are right wing Capitalist criminal dogs about who's evil is to clearly exploit the system and even promoted by Socialist, as they truly pander to such criminal intent, we had the idiot Leader of an Airline Company rip of late that clearly riped off the Tax Payers and all, just walk away with so many millions ! he was a typical rat bag ! but you do not hear the Socialist up in arms ! because the simple minded idiots have not been told, too be as so !
Oh he is a good mate of our Socialist PM !

Reggie...look at how much of your post is political!
Christians are A-Political....not taking sides at all in any of it....let them fight it out amongst themselves as God is teaching the human race how pathetic human rulership really is.....the devil has no way to make the world a better place for anyone...they are too busy being concerned about their political situation and their national status...selfish to the last.....so that they cannot see that that their spirituality goes down the toilet when they do that.

Neutrality shows God that you support his Kingdom .....not man’s pathetic excuse for government....that can never bring about the peace and security that we all need and long for......it will never come about by man’s efforts.....only God can fix what we broke....our relationship with him.

 

[n2thelight]

Who are those that call themselves Jew's but are NOT ???

 

[soberxp]

Who are those that call themselves Jew's but are NOT ???

Both bloodline and Spiritual.

 

[Aunty Jane]

You have NO idea!
So, you keep on doing that which you do?
And, I'll keep on doing that which I do.

We all have that choice.

GOD Bless Israel!

God will bless the true Israel...spiritual Israel....”the Israel of God” (Gal 6:16) not national Israel.....you are supporting the wrong Israel....

No one with blood on their hands in the Christian era has any communion with God......He will not even hear their prayers. (Isa 1:15)

 

[Aunty Jane]

Who are those that call themselves Jew's but are NOT ???

Those who today, do what the natural Jews did in the first century.....a new “Israel” was appointed by God and the old Israel, by their conduct and continued disobedience, lost their place. Those who became Jesus’ disciples made up the new “Israel”.

In the first century, after Christ’s death, it was natural Israel who was the “synagogue of satan”, but today it is those who profess to be spiritual Israel who, by their conduct and friendship with the world (James 4:4) are fulfilling that role....a modern day synagogue of satan....

 

[Jack]

I accept your surrender in this foolish argument you make.

Nearly everything JW's 'know' is what the WatchTower tells them.

 

[n2thelight]

Those who today, do what the natural Jews did in the first century.....a new “Israel” was appointed by God and the old Israel, by their conduct and continued disobedience, lost their place. Those who became Jesus’ disciples made up the new “Israel”.

In the first century, after Christ’s death, it was natural Israel who was the “synagogue of satan”, but today it is those who profess to be spiritual Israel who, by their conduct and friendship with the world (James 4:4) are fulfilling that role....a modern day synagogue of satan....

Can't agree ,natural Israel was, and is whom Yah made His covenant with ...He spoke with one group of people .... Only one group of people that fits Deuteronomy 28

Rev 2 and 3 :9 is speaking of those who stole the identity of true Israel ...

 

[Aunty Jane]

Can't agree ,natural Israel was, and is whom Yah made His covenant with ...He spoke with one group of people .... Only one group of people that fits Deuteronomy 28

Rev 2 and 3 :9 is speaking of those who stole the identity of true Israel ...

What do you understand about covenants? What would you call one in today’s language?

Please read the opening words of Deut 28 and see why there was always a problem with Israel’s side of the covenants they made...their conduct...their disobedience....invalidated them.

Rev 3:9...
“Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews yet are not, but are lying—look! I will make them come and bow before your feet and make them know that I have loved you”.

Natural Israel lost their place because the covenants that God made with them were conditional....and Israel broke their covenants by their disobedience. God upheld his side of these agreements, but Israel always let him down. God kept them in existence until his purpose in connection with them was fufilled. They produced the Messiah and they not only rejected him, but also orchestrated his murder. God was done with them and chose a new Israel to bless with his Kingdom promises.

Paul explained the exchange....Rom 9:6-8...

“However, it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who descend from Israel are really “Israel.” 7  Neither are they all children because they are Abraham’s offspring; rather, “What will be called your offspring will be through Isaac.” 8  That is, the children in the flesh are not really the children of God, but the children by the promise are counted as the offspring.”

 

[Wrangler]

Christians are A-Political

You repeat this false maxim despite over 1,500 years of Christians being political AND using violence to achieve their political ends. From the Roman Empire to the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire and the many Christian nations around the world.

Then there are all the Scriptures supporting this historical record, such as constantly speaking in terms of nations and impacts at the national level, the command to Buy a Sword and to give Caesar what is Caesar's. Finally, there is the present and future actions of Christ using violence in establishing his, what, his political kingdom. God has supported and commanded wars in ancient times and modern times. Revelation 20 informs us Christ will do what for 1,000 years? Give tantalizing sermons and warn us repeatedly to remain apolitical? No, he will rule, meaning political rule.

Despite going over all this, you repeat what is demonstrably not true. Sad. Maybe JW are apolitical but that is not based on Christianity.