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God created man with a body and a spirit or breath of life, to give the body physical life. What God created He said was, "very good." Man had the ability to live forever IF he obeyed God. We all know of Adam's disobedience. God said that on the day man disobeyed God they would DIE! They did not physically die, but they did spiritually die. That's why Paul says "we were DEAD in trespasses and sins." It was man's choice that brought sin and death through sin unto ALL mankind. God does NOT "deliver a dead spirit to the new born." It was the first Adam that brought this fate upon all mankind. For that reason mankind must be born again to have eternal life.

Romans 5:14 (KJV) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

1 Corinthians 15:22 (KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Eze 18:1 The word of the LORD came to me:
Eze 18:2 "What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge'?
Eze 18:3 As I live, declares the Lord GOD, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel.
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.

Eze 18:20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

The doctrine of Original Sin is heresy. We suffer neither physical death nor spiritual death as a result of anything Adam did. Physical death is as God created mankind. Spiritual death is due to our trespasses and sins.
 

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Eze 18:1 The word of the LORD came to me:
Eze 18:2 "What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge'?
Eze 18:3 As I live, declares the Lord GOD, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel.
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.


Eze 18:20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

The doctrine of Original Sin is heresy. We suffer neither physical death nor spiritual death as a result of anything Adam did. Physical death is as God created mankind. Spiritual death is due to our trespasses and sins.

Mankind is not destined to physically die because of Adam's particular transgression! We are destined to physical death because death through sin entered into God's creation when Adam sinned. For this reason death is passed unto all mankind, because there are none righteous, no, not one!

Romans 3:10-18 (KJV) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Physical death is the fate of ALL mankind without exception because all sin. The fate of mankind that originated from Adam is that all who are in Adam, having become unprofitable are destined, like Adam, to die! And all who are IN Christ shall be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:22 (KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
 
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Romans 6:11-23​

11In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey-whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. 19I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. 20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

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Romans 5:12-21​


12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break.
14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ.
16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.
17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.
19 Because one person disobeyed God, many became sinners. But because one other person obeyed God, many will be made righteous.
20 God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant.
21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 

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Mankind is not destined to physically die because of Adam's particular transgression! We are destined to physical death because death through sin entered into God's creation when Adam sinned. For this reason death is passed unto all mankind, because there are none righteous, no, not one!

Romans 3:10-18 (KJV) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Physical death is the fate of ALL mankind without exception because all sin. The fate of mankind that originated from Adam is that all who are in Adam, having become unprofitable are destined, like Adam, to die! And all who are IN Christ shall be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:22 (KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Clearly, Romans 3:10-18, as you have presented it, must include you, huh? So then, you are not righteous, you don't understand, you don't seek after God, etc., etc.

Personally, I don't believe that. And I don't believe that we are destined to physical death entered through Adam's sin. And I don't believe we die physically because of sin. And all die spiritually not because of Adam but because all have sinned.
 

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Romans 6:11-23​

11In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey-whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. 19I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. 20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:12-21​


12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break.
14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ.
16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.
17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.
19 Because one person disobeyed God, many became sinners. But because one other person obeyed God, many will be made righteous.
20 God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant.
21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Do you have even the slightest idea what any of that means?

23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Given that the comparison there is between death and eternal life, the death there, just life eternal life is speaking of the spiritual, not the physical.

18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone. All seem to agree that those effected by Adam's one sin includes everyone. Who is not included in the everyone effected by Christ's one act of righteousness. Or do you, like far too many, think that while the effect of Adam's sin includes everyone, the effect of Christ's righteousness is quite limited; thus Adam is much more efficacious than even Jesus Christ in the lives of mankind which would seem to contradict verse 17 which says, For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
 

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Clearly, Romans 3:10-18, as you have presented it, must include you, huh? So then, you are not righteous, you don't understand, you don't seek after God, etc., etc.

Personally, I don't believe that. And I don't believe that we are destined to physical death entered through Adam's sin. And I don't believe we die physically because of sin. And all die spiritually not because of Adam but because all have sinned.

You need to read the letter to the Romans in CONTEXT! Paul shows us that before we are born again we are natural man, which is what he is describing when he says "there are none righteous, none that seek God"! That is what ALL mankind are before they are born again!

I don't really care what YOU believe! What matters is what YOU can prove through the Scriptures. All mankind is physically born, natural man of the same flesh as Adam. As such, like Adam, we shall ALL physically die! Not because of Adam's sin, but because we are all natural man like Adam before we are changed from natural spirit to spiritual spirit through Christ's Spirit in us. That is what our natural body of flesh is destined for, death.

If we desire to have eternal spiritual life through the Spirit of Christ in us, we MUST be born again of His Spirit. Being born again does not mean our natural physical body will not die, even in Christ every man is ordained to physical death! But physical death cannot take away the eternal spiritual life we HAVE through Christ. God gives us eternal spiritual life through Christ! If we physically die in faith, our spirit alive will return with Christ to give immortal & incorruptible physical life to our body, then we will be fit to live with Christ forever in the age to come on the new earth.

1 Corinthians 15:44 (KJV) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

2 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV)
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 (KJV)
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (KJV) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

John 5:28-29 (KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
 

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I agree we not created a tri-part being. Because the Word says man was created with a body + spirit (breath of life) and together we became living souls. But you are right about us being three part when we have the Holy Spirit giving spiritual life to our spirit. We could say after being born again we are body + spirit (breath of physical life) + Holy Spirit (breath of supernatural eternal spiritual life), and together living souls.
No we are body, soul and spirit. Thje OT did not have the language to distinguish the soul from spirit or life. The NT Greek does. The Holy Spirit is not part of us, but indwells us.
 

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You're only "tangled" in your theology, @Ronald Nolette

You love to keep proving it.

Also......"WE" are not doing anything.
What i do, is take time for you, but, a lot of that is so that i can expose you and your "sin, confess, repeat" ... Discipleship and Teaching.

Also, there is no such thing as a "'dead spirit."
Why?
Because the spirit is the real you, and if it was dead you'd be dead, because all unbelievers would not exist., and you were one of those, at one time.

Listen,
In Genesis, we read that Adam "died spiritually", .....but that does not mean his spirit died.
It means that the spiritual union that Adam had with God was broken, severed, ended.

Literally this means, that GOD, who is Eternal LIFE... and Adam's Spirit, disconnected.. So, that disconnect from God's Life, is spiritual death.
Its the loss of spiritual union with God, that is the idea. = "spiritual death".

People who are water baptized and went to hell today, didnt take their body with them.
They went there as a "dead spirit', = never born again.

Jesus, the 2nd Adam came to give us "LIFE and that more abundantly", = restored to the same spiritual union that 1st Adam had with Eternal God.

A.) Think of it like this Ronald. God is ETERNAL.. and His life is ETERNAL LIFE.... So, when we have that, we have been born again.

Jesus said...."All that believe in me, i give unto you ETERNAL LIFE">..

See that? That is literally to be restored to eternal spiritual union with ETERNAL God., as "One with God". = And "God is A Spirit".
Well I will take Pauls word over your opinions every day! We will fin dout when we both stand before the King of Kings and He shows our theologies.
 

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Verse 15 is the context.

Paul is talking about "spiritual discernment"..

He's not claiming that all have the mind of Christ.
See, if we all did, there would not be an arguments about Theology. There would not be 45,500 denominations in the world all claiming to be "the real one".

There would be no "Catholic" vs" "Protestant" if "all have the mind of Christ".
And which sect of Christendom do you fellowship in ?

Also you need to know that the "45,000" number is a mis numbering. It is calling the Roman church in all 234 countries as 234 different denominations. In reality there are only about 2,000 denominations presently.

But very few call themself the one true sect.

So seeing as you have your own opinions here based on some teachin gyou have received- what sect is yours?
 

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No we are body, soul and spirit. Thje OT did not have the language to distinguish the soul from spirit or life. The NT Greek does. The Holy Spirit is not part of us, but indwells us.

I know this is a common doctrine taught, but according to the creation account in Genesis we read that God created man from dust of the earth and breathed the breath of life (spirit) into him and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The Old Testament Hebrew neshamah for 'breath of life' is defined 'blast, breath, inspiration, soul and spirit'. When the Old Testament translates neshamah it is translated as 'breath of life' 20 times, and 'spirit' 2 times, 'inspiration' 1 time, 'and souls' 1 time (KJV). Wherever life is found, whether physical life or spirit life there is a living soul. That's why mankind created with body + spirit (breath of life) became a living soul. Mankind was not made with body + spirit + living soul, because even a spirit with life through the Spirit of Christ is a living soul in heaven. So in our physical body before death mankind is a living soul with body + spirit. Then in death the spirit that gives our natural body life returns to God who gave it. (Ecc. 12:7) In heaven the spirit in man who dies in unbelief will remain in silence and darkness, but the spirit in man who dies in faith returns to God a spiritual body as living soul.

Strong's Hebrew Dictionary
5397. נְשָׁמָה neshamah (nᵉshâmâh

Search for H5397 in KJVSL; in KJV.

נְשָׁמָה nᵉshâmâh, nesh-aw-maw'

from H5395; a puff, i.e. wind, angry or vital breath, divine inspiration, intellect. or (concretely) an animal:—blast, (that) breath(-eth), inspiration, soul, spirit.
 

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I am a soul, a living being, I have a body and a spirit. My dog is a soul, a living being, he has a body but no spirit.
 

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Do you have even the slightest idea what any of that means?

23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Given that the comparison there is between death and eternal life, the death there, just life eternal life is speaking of the spiritual, not the physical.

18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone. All seem to agree that those effected by Adam's one sin includes everyone. Who is not included in the everyone effected by Christ's one act of righteousness. Or do you, like far too many, think that while the effect of Adam's sin includes everyone, the effect of Christ's righteousness is quite limited; thus Adam is much more efficacious than even Jesus Christ in the lives of mankind which would seem to contradict verse 17 which says, For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
Interpret the scripture...instead of posting reams and reams of it?

A child could post scripture as you keep doing.

Adam body started dying when he sinned....what happened to Adam body when he sinned?


Romans 5:12-21​


12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break.
14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ.
16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.
17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.
19 Because one person disobeyed God, many became sinners. But because one other person obeyed God, many will be made righteous.
20 God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant.
21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
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Clearly, Romans 3:10-18, as you have presented it, must include you, huh? So then, you are not righteous, you don't understand, you don't seek after God, etc., etc.

Personally, I don't believe that. And I don't believe that we are destined to physical death entered through Adam's sin. And I don't believe we die physically because of sin. And all die spiritually not because of Adam but because all have sinned.
So...we all die spiritually because we have all sinned...we brought sin into the world did we...?..LOL...

Because all have sinned..meaning what exactly?.....why have all sinned?...as you talk the talk...explain it?
We’re you dead in sin, before you came Alive in Christ?
 
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I am a soul, a living being, I have a body and a spirit. My dog is a soul, a living being, he has a body but no spirit.
What does your body house?

Does your soul cease to exist, when your heart stops beating?
 
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I am a soul, a living being, I have a body and a spirit. My dog is a soul, a living being, he has a body but no spirit.

Animals have spirits, but they dont have a human spirit.

Only Man has this type, as Man is created in the "image of God"... so, we get that one., placed inside the "earth suit".

1st Adam tainted it with SIN.., and 2nd Adam removes the taint of SIN.. = with this own shed BLOOD..

= The Blood Atonement..... The NEW Covenant.

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"What can wash away my sin...

Nothing but the Blood of Jesus..

What can make me whole again...

Nothing but the Blood of JESUS...

Oh, Crimson is the FLOW, that makes me white as snow..

No other Fount i know... nothing but the
Blood of Jesus"....
 
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Animals have spirits, but they dont have a human spirit.

Only Man has this type, as Man is created in the "image of God"... so, we get that one., placed inside the "earth suit".

1st Adam tainted it and 2nd Adam removes the taint with this own shed BLOOD..

= The Blood Atonement..

"What can wash away my sin...

Nothing but the Blood of Jesus..

What can make me whole again...

Nothing but the Blood of JESUS...

Oh, Crimson is the FLOW, that makes me white as snow..

No other fount i know... nothing but the
Blood of Jesus"....
Without that.....we would still be in darkness and sin.

Praise God that he sent his only Son, Jesus is the only way back to the Father.

What a Merciful God we serve!!
 
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So you received that knowledge supernaturally? I have met so many others who make that same statement. But they all seem to disagree on so much of that supernaturally acquired knowledge. Why would God do that? Answer -- He wouldn't and doesn't. So what does that mean? It means that all those claims of supernaturally acquired knowledge is false.
So, how could Spirit give birth to spirit...if it wasn’t by the Spirit of God?

Is God’s Spirit supernatural?

It’s not a statement by man either.....it’s the Living word of God,xx
 

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I am a soul, a living being, I have a body and a spirit. My dog is a soul, a living being, he has a body but no spirit.

Your dog could not have physical life without spirit. The spirit is the breath of life that every living breathing creature has to give their body physical life. The animal kingdom possesses a spirit or breath of life just as humankind also does.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 7:22-23 (KJV) All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth:
and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

Because it is the spirit that gives life, the flesh has not life without spirit (breath of life). Natural spirit that every living breathing thing upon the earth gives physical life. And the Holy Spirit from Christ, gives spiritual life to only living mankind because man alone is given eternal life when they are born again of the Spirit. Animals possess only a natural spirit, giving physical life to their body, animals will never have eternal life through the Spirit of Christ because animals shall never have eternal spiritual life.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
 

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Animals have spirits, but they dont have a human spirit.

Only Man has this type, as Man is created in the "image of God"... so, we get that one., placed inside the "earth suit".

1st Adam tainted it with SIN.., and 2nd Adam removes the taint of SIN.. = with this own shed BLOOD..

= The Blood Atonement..... The NEW Covenant.

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The difference between the spirit (breath of life) given mankind and animals WAS in the beginning the ability to communicate with God. That's what set animals and humans apart. Animals never possess this ability. And man lost that ability when they heeded the voice of evil and disobeyed God. From the fall mankind is unable to hear the voice of God until they are born again. On the day that man sinned the spirit (breath of life) in man became like that of the animal world. Our mind and heart became focused on things that are natural, of the earth. Man became carnally minded, having his mind set on the desires of the flesh. Becoming natural mankind, man had no ability to set their minds on things of God and heaven, until they are born again.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 8:43 (KJV) Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

John 10:26-28 (KJV) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

That's why I keep harping on the FACT that mankind was created with body + spirit (breath of life) and BECAME a living soul. Before the fall man had no knowledge of good or evil. What knowledge man possessed in the beginning was the understanding of God as their Creator. After they disobeyed God, then their eyes were opened and their minds became darkened and carnal. Understanding their nakedness they tried to hide from God because then they KNEW both sin and the death of their ability to discern the things of God and eternal life.