@Timtofly
Thats the Church chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4
4 According as
he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Eph 5:25-27
25 Husbands, love your wives,
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but
that it should be holy and without blemish.
The church is called out to be seperate. However you changed the point, that the church has no choice.
Those verses do not represent your point. Why do you think God wants the church to keep living in sin, just because they can, without any consequences?
God chose the entire world. Yet the majority of the world has not chosen God. That means God has the right to cut them off in disbelief. Salvation is a free gift, not something forced. The 144k do not have a choice, so not part of the church how you describe the church. Now if you can prove Salvation is not a choice, and you were going to be saved regardless of your repentance, then you are the 144k.
In Acts 16:30-31
"And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
Paul did not say just be born and you are saved. They had to choose to do something, even if it was not a physical work. Where do you read any where those 144k were sealed because they asked to be sealed? All those 144k had to do was to have a physical birth, and wait for an angel to come seal them.
Paul never taught that the Gentiles had to wait around for some angel to come and make it clear to them that they were the elect.
Paul did teach in Romans 11, that at the Second Coming Jesus would come and restore some of Israel back to being natural branches and remove their spiritual blindness placed on them in part. Seems the 144k were sealed by an angel, just when Paul stated the natural branches would be restored. The 144k has nothing to do with the 2 millennium that has happened since Paul wrote the book of Romans.
Those verses you quoted means we cannot clean up our act on our own to prove we are redeemed. They also don't say Jesus changes a certain percentage of the population, who have no clue why they stopped doing what they used to do. Romans 10:13-16
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel."
How is this a process describing that all one has to do is to be physically born? That is what being elect implies, when you say there is no choice, but one has been chosen since the foundation of the world.
The difference between the church and the 144k, is that the church has to come by faith, and receive the gift of Salvation. The 144k are sealed by an angel, and have no choice but to be changed, when they are sealed and changed by God. It is still God that changes a person, because no one can change themselves out of death, into eternal life.