The Battle of Armageddon

[ewq1938]

Rev. 9:13-21

A war such as WW3 would be all or at least all major nations/countries fighting but that passage doesn't show that but a third of humanity killed by an army which rides horses that have the heads of lions and short fire and brimstone from their mouths. Doesn't sound like a literal army to me so the killing might not be literal as well. Definitely not a WW3 description.

 

[Timtofly]

The reason for their action is that the world sees the sign of the Son of Man in heaven - sickle in hand, prepared to carry out judgment on the wicked who will have been persecuting the great tribulation saints.

That is one interpretation of this verse.

"And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

"to the battle of that great day of God Almighty"

God gathers all humanity to Armageddon. They really do not have a choice in the matter. It is the winepress of God's wrath on the last of Adam's offspring, still in a state of death. They all have the mark, and do not need to stand in judgment other than to point out their names are not in the Lamb's book of Life. In Revelation 19, it could imply they are cast into the LOF. All we are told is that the beast and false prophet are tossed into the LOF.

 

[Hobie]

No, he doesn't. Satan is in the LOF when NJ descends from heaven. The army surrounding Jerusalem in Rev 20 is old Jerusalem. NJ doesn't come until the NHNE which is after all have been cast into the LOF.




That rebellion/army is before the second resurrection. Those people have to die the first death before they are resurrected to face the judgment of the second death which doesn't happen until after God rains fire down to kill that entire army. After that is the second resurrection which is all of the unsaved of all time, not just a very large army. Those who come from hell, death and the sea is after that army is killed.

Revelation repeats the description of how the wicked and its source and all his minions and the antichrist entity meet their end, but its the fire and brimstone at the lake of fire, as they surround the city of God, the New Jerusalem..

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation repeats the description of how the wicked and its source and all his minions and the antichrist entity meet their end, but its the fire and brimstone at the lake of fire, as they surround the city of God, the New Jerusalem..

Nope. The Ac is not there when the army surrounds Jerusalem because he was cast into the LOF before the thousand years started.

 

[Hobie]

Nope. The Ac is not there when the army surrounds Jerusalem because he was cast into the LOF before the thousand years started.

Revelation 19 is another view of the same event as even Revelation 21 has the city of God of Revelation 20 in its start. All the same series of events at the end..

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 19 is another view of the same event as even Revelation 21 has the city of God of Revelation 20 in its start.

No, Rev 19 is not the same event seen in Rev 21. NJ is not on Earth in any part of Rev 19 or 20. It comes only in Rev 21, just after the GWTJ and LOF punishments are concluded. The old Earth and Heavens are gone, replaced by the NHNE then and only then does NJ descend to the Earth.

 

[Hobie]

No, Rev 19 is not the same event seen in Rev 21. NJ is not on Earth in any part of Rev 19 or 20. It comes only in Rev 21, just after the GWTJ and LOF punishments are concluded. The old Earth and Heavens are gone, replaced by the NHNE then and only then does NJ descend to the Earth.

As you can see it repeats the description of how each meets its end at the fire, and what happens as Christ comes, and the results up to the New Jerusalem, the city of God. Read it carefully and you will see..

 

[Jay Ross]

As you can see it repeats the description of how each meets its end at the fire, and what happens as Christ comes, and the results up to the New Jerusalem, the city of God. Read it carefully and you will see..

If we consider the time span of Rev 19, it begins with the giving of a dominion and a kingdom to Christ in Heaven, it then describes the wedding feast of Christ's. Then after 1,000 years have passed and the Bottomless Pit is unlocked, the end of Chapter 19 of the Book of Revelation ends its account with Jesus descending to make war with the beast and the false prophet, their capture and dispatching into the Lake of fire.

If we now consider the time span of Rev 20, it begins with Satan, after he is judged in heaven and coming down to the earth, an angel imprisons him in the bottomless pit, where we are told in Isaiah 24:21-22 the judged kings of the earth, the beast, the false prophet along Satan will be imprisoned for many days to await the time of their punishment. Then we are told that Christ will establish His Priestly Rule in heaven with the Saints who have lost their heads for His sake for 1,000 years. After the 1,000 years ends, the Bottomless pit is unlocked and Satan because his time is short, goes out to make war on the earth to then end up surrounding Jerusalem before he is also captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire where the Beast and the False Prophet have also recently been dispatched into as well.

It is after this that the time of the Great White Throne Room Judgement of all of the peoples of the earth begins and the division of the righteous and the unrighteous occurs. The righteous to be given the earth while the unrighteous are dispatched also into the Lake of Fire.

Then the Second death and Hades were dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

In the time span of Rev 20 begins with, "Then I saw a renewed/refurbished heaven and a renewed/refurbished earth, for the original heaven and earth had been cleansed and renewed, and the 'whole sea of humanity' was no more, as it had been stripped of the unrighteous."

Then a renewed Jerusalem descends down from Heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:

“Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man,
and He will dwell with them.
They will be His people,
and God Himself will be with them as their God
‘He will wipe away every tear from their eyes,’
and there will be no more death
or mourning or crying or pain,
for the former things have passed away.”

God, seated on His throne among the people will declare,

“Behold, I make all things like new again.”

“It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give freely from the spring of the water of life. The one who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son."