n2thelight
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The Day of the Lord is the millennium , His 2nd coming is when it starts . On that Day all shall be changed that's why there's no flesh .Although changed all will not be immortal
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The Sixth Seal commences with dramatic cosmic signs.
Not happened yet.
The rest of your last 3 posts, are just useless opinion. Jesus does NOT Return to destroy the word, but to reign over it. Revelation 20:1-6
Problem is, you believe and teach 2 Peter 3:10-13 is just destroying man's works, when scripture clearly teaches the heavens and earth will be dissolved by fire to their very elements
Davy wants to see a magical 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, where the wizard of OZ stands behind a curtain ruling the world?
A man made fairy tale not found in scripture!
God the Father's deepest desire is to permanently dwell within His creation of man. From God's perspective, that is the situation that was lost in the Garden, along with the fact that people shall now die and be lost. God knew that once A&E ate of the tree of the KoG&E, the tree of Life Eternal was not to be available for their partaking. The results of that is, people surely do die, without eternal existence of any kind.The Sixth Seal commences with dramatic cosmic signs.
Not happened yet.
The rest of your last 3 posts, are just useless opinion. Jesus does NOT Return to destroy the word, but to reign over it. Revelation 20:1-6
Of course this earth will "Pass Away" it will be a completely "New Creation" just as scripture teaches belowGod will not destroy this earth again, did He not give a rainbow for that promise ?
The Sixth Seal is before any of the Trumpets and Bowls.6TH seal, trump and vial is when satan appears, so yep that has yet to happen .
Reality refutes you.That act of Christ binding Satan is not visible in the global scheme of man's domain
Rubbish!However, for every person who has asked for the Gift of God's Holy Spirit, through faith in Christ, He who is much "stronger" than the evil spirits, takes up permanent residence, and they shall never invade or occupy such a person ever again.
AFTER the thousand years of the reign of King Jesus, as Revelation 20 clearly states."Behold I "Create" New Heavens And A New Earth"
Scripture teaches Jesus returns, the resurrection takes place (Then Cometh The End) you don't like those words, because it removes your claim of a 1,000 year kingdom on earth after the resurrection, there isn't 1,000 years seen between verses 23-24 below, will you now "Add" to scripture?AFTER the thousand years of the reign of King Jesus, as Revelation 20 clearly states.
It is wrong theories that deny Jesus His reward of being the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, over the present earth, that deny His reward as Isaiah 2:2-4, Psalms 110:2, Psalms 2:8 and many other Prophesies attest.
You are wrong; there is a thousand year gap between 1 Cor 15:23 and 24.Scripture teaches Jesus returns, the resurrection takes place (Then Cometh The End) you don't like those words, because it removes your claim of a 1,000 year kingdom on earth after the resurrection, there isn't 1,000 years seen between verses 23-24 below, will you now "Add" to scripture?
Reality refutes you.
As Peter says: Satan is a roaring lion, looking for anyone he can deceive.
What happens to Satan when Jesus Returns, Revelation 20:1-3, plainly has not happened yet
Basically you are right, in that Salvation is up to each individual person. The individuals who make up the House of Israel, currently still scattered among the nations. To be gathered into all of the holy land soon after the Lord has cleared and cleansed it. Deuteronomy 32:34=43Unfortunately you didn't follow through in your copy/paste of what I said in the following:
"That act of Christ binding Satan is not visible in the global scheme of man's domain, but rather for each and every individual who has been born again of God's Holy Spirit, aka "the nations of them which are saved" (KJV-Revelation 21:24), are now become that "holy nation" unto God (1 Peter 2:9), His invisible church (called out ones)."
God's plan for the past 2000 years, is Him taking His spiritual battle for souls at ground level, one on one.
The world as a whole does not see that spiritual warfare happening, whereby God commands Satan to leave the house of flesh of each person, who has faith in Jesus, and invites the Holy Spirit into their life. In the moment of that act of faith, the evil spirit(s) must leave the "house" that they have taken up residence in.
He who is "stronger" than the "strongman" has been "spoiling" satan's goods, which is all of those who have faith in Jesus, and are born again of the Holy Spirit.
"To the Victor go the spoils".
We each, who are of faith in Christ, are the literal house (dwelling place) of God. We each ARE now that 3rd temple of the Living God.Basically you are right, in that Salvation is up to each individual person. The individuals who make up the House of Israel, currently still scattered among the nations. To be gathered into all of the holy land soon after the Lord has cleared and cleansed it. Deuteronomy 32:34=43
Where you go off the rails is in thinking Revelation 20:1-3 is in effect now. When Satan get locked into the pit; he won't be able to do anything. Period.
Yes, for now that is the case.We each ARE now that 3rd temple of the Living God.
It is not a trap to believe the Bible sequence of events, as Written.
The Seventh Trumpet, Revelation 11:15-19, is clearly just an announcement, made in heaven as stated; of the soon to come; Return of Jesus to reign over the earth for the next thousand years.
Your ideas of a Spiritual existence after Jesus Returns, simply does not comply with what the Prophets tell us.
Immortality cannot be conferred on anyone until they face the Judgment of God. Revelation 20:11-15
Disgusting and rude comments get you a reputation for ignorance and blinded intransigence.Now why do you want to tell a fib like that?
Neither did I. Only those whose names are found in the Book of Life; opened AFTER the Millennium, will receive immortality.Who said anything about the wicked being 'immortal'? I never did.
Disgusting and rude comments get you a reputation for ignorance and blinded intransigence.
Yes, for now that is the case.
But Prophecy is quite clear: there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem.
As for the Resurrection, it is ONLY the GT martyrs who are brought back to life when Jesus Returns.
the rest of the dead must wait until the end of the Millennium. Revelation 20:5
It is very unfortunate that Church teaching has given people the impression of an instant change into immortality when Jesus Returns. Or even before that Day - in the false teaching of a 'rapture to heaven'.
We must face testing and prove our faith and trust in the Lord, thru all that must happen before that glorious Day. Those people that remain, 1 Thess 4:17, will go with Jesus into the Millennium.
The KJV reads: [5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
So then, what IS the First Resurrection?
Ans. JESUS Himself, after His crucifixion, IS the First resurrection.
When was that?
Ans. At the beginning of God's Grace to us all, being made available to all who believe, ever since the day of Pentecost.
What does that mean?
Ans. That is when people began having part in the First resurrection, who is Christ. Which is to say that they were still flesh and blood, but are made to be partakers of His spiritual divine nature only, while we are still in our mortal bodies. Therefore, the rest of the dead (who are asleep in Jesus), lived not again [in immortality], UNTIL the figurative 1000 years of God's Grace were finished.
Remember, Jesus still does not know the Day of His return!! So, for Him to even hint at a roundabout date would be deception.
As a result, He is not at all able to define a specific time of when God the Father's Grace shall end.
And so, at the beginning of Pentecost (as written in 80- 96AD) we read how Jesus' GIFT of His death and His ever living "divine nature" through faith, has now delivered us from our own life and also our own physical death (John 11:26), and has replaced it with His own New Eternal Life (Galatians 2:20):
Rev. 20[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection [Jesus]: on such the second death hath no power, BUT they shall be priests [ambassadors] of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a [figurative] thousand years.
> Evidently, God the Father didn't inform His Son, that He would continue His Grace towards us for another 1022 years, and counting.
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Those three events are separate and happen at different times. Just because there are a few similarities, doesn't mean they are the same event.The 7th Trumpet events are aligned with the 6th Seal events, and the 7th Vial events
Actually He did, 2 Chronicles 7:1-3, but God left the first Temple, Ezekiel 11:22-23. Gods Shekinah glory was never in the second Temple, but it will be in the Third. Ezekiel 43:1-5God does not live in buildings/Temples made by human hands!
The First Resurrection refers only to Jesus.After the 1,000 years, we are shown the books are opened to see IF there are any names written in the Book of Life. Well since those of the "first resurrection" have already been judged per their names being written, then what's this 'second' check in the Book of Life for?
Because you misread my post, you misunderstood my point. Try to digest this first, and then you will understand: Jesus Himself, IS THE FIRST Resurrection.No, no, no. That is not what that future resurrection is about, nor the timing of the future resurrection. Apostle Paul got onto certain brethren that were saying the resurrection had already happened...
2 Tim 2:16-18
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
KJV
The following shows when the resurrection is to happen...
John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
KJV
The "first resurrection" only happens on the day of Christ's FUTURE COMING.
And those then of that "first resurrection" represent His elect servants that will reign with Him over the unsaved for that "thousand years" of Revelation 20.
Those "dead" of Revelation 20:5 which live not again until after the "thousand years" is over, is about those unsaved that stand in judgment throughout that 1,000 years period.
And because a "FIRST resurrection" is mentioned, that automatically suggests at least one more LIKE IT. What KIND of resurrection is that "first resurrection"? It is one unto Jesus Christ, those having put on immortality and are not subject to the "second death".
After the 1,000 years, we are shown the books are opened to see IF there are any names written in the Book of Life. Well since those of the "first resurrection" have already been judged per their names being written, then what's this 'second' check in the Book of Life for?
It is for those who BELIEVE ON JESUS DURING the 1,000 years period, and are tested by Satan when he is loosed one last time to deceive the unsaved nations. Those then become part of the 1st resurrection, not subject to the "second death". Then those who refuse Christ go into the "lake of fire" along with the devil, hell, and death.