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Theres a problem with that thought. If the Islamic Mahdi is a legitimate prophecy, that gives credence to their Koran. If it gives credence, what else in it is legitimate and if so, who is right and who is wrong? Suggesting anything of Islam will happen based on their prophecy is dangerous.
Only God gives insight to those that are his. All others are false and do lie


Islam is a Satanic copy of Christianity.

It has a "bible". a "god". a "prophet", a "paradise", a 600 winged angel who dictated the Quran to Mohammed.
Mohammed was illiterate, so, its interesting to note that he was able to write it down.....
He was also a Pedophile.......just study his marriage....
The Bedouin Arab's decided that one of their 300 godz, "their moon God" would become their One True = Allah.
If you've seen the "Islamic" flag, it has a MOON on it, as "allah", is their "moon God" now become their Only..
You'll be told that "allah" just means "god", but that is not the truth.
Just look at their FLAG for an update on Mr MOON God.
It is interesting that their end time savior is the Christian Anti-Christ.

Currently, Islamic Terrorism is trying to "usher in" their "messiah" by violence, who is the coming Anti-Christ.
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No, scripture teaches a head is both a capital city of the kingdom and its king. Evidenced in Isaiah 7:8-9

8For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people. 9And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son.

The head: of Syria is Damascus and its head is Rezin. Just like of Babylonian Empire, its head is Babylon and the head of it was Nebuchadnezzar. Or the head of America is Washington DC and the head of it is Biden. Not only land.

All 6 do not need to be revived. Only one needed to be in order for the beast to live for it “was and is not”. It was defeated by all heads being slain. Revelation 12:3 has crowns of authority on all 7 heads yet Revelation 13:1 has no crowns on any head and not the 7th head. None of the former heads have any authority because the horns have it. No head becomes the 8th and no man becomes the 8th. It is the beast of the sea itself that figuratively becomes the 8th (Revelation 17:11)
I agree about the heads. The reason why the crowns have shifted from the dragon's seven heads in Revelation 12 to the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 is because the dragon is giving him / it its seat, power and great authority - all the power of the dragon - all 7 heads - so all the power of all the kingdoms combined.

It's a bit too vague in Revelation 17 to easily understand whether the ten kings are the 7th head or not, because "there are also seven kings" (not 6 + 10 kings).

What is made clear is that the ten will hand their power and authority over to the beast ascending from the pit and he / it will be the 8th king, but is also one of the seven.

So if he's one of the seven kings we need to understand that John said the seven heads are also seven mountains, and also seven kings. Each king had a seat of power / capital (head) and each king was the king of a regional power or maybe empire (mountain):

Daniel 2:35b
And the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

Zechariah 4
7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain; and he shall bring forth the top stone with shoutings, Grace! Grace to it!

Hebrews 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.

Revelation 8
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea. And the third part of the sea became blood.

So "head", I agree, definitely the seat of power / capital of a king. So there are seven regional powers, but five had been and had gone by the time John received the Revelation. That's a clue. Why were they even mentioned, then?

The 6th existed at the time John received the Revelation, and the 7th was still to come, "And when he comes, he must continue a short time."

It sounds to me like the 8th king, being one of the seven, is also the seventh head / mountain (he can only be the 6th or the 7th head / mountain).

The horns are not the sixth, because the 10 horns' kingdom had not yet come when the 6th was in power.

The 10 kings rule with the 8th king, handing over all their power & authority to him. So the 10 are also the 7th, and the dragon is going to give the beast the combined power of all seven of the kingdoms.
 
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No, they were kings not heads.

They are areas where kingdoms are established.

They are called mountains, and kings, and heads. The seven heads are seven mountains and there are also seven kings.

The heads are lands.

You are confusing heads with kings. None of the heads are kings or ever were. They are land.
No, he's right. Heads are the seat of power / capital of the king. A mountain is a regional power or kingdom or empire.

They are all three: king, seat of power / capital of each king, and kingdom / empire of each king (x 7).

Five had been and had gone, one existed and the 7th had not yet come. The 10 kings had also not yet received a kingdom.

The dragon's 7 heads in Revelation 12:3 each has a crown (a king). In Revelation 13 the crowns have shifted to the 10 horns. The dragon gives that beast his seat (head), power, and great authority - all the power of all 7 kingdoms combined, because they were / are the dragon's.

The 10 kings give all their power and authority to the beast ascending from the abyss, who is also the 8th king - but he is one of the seven - and if he is one of the seven, then he is either the 6th or the 7th head (but probably the 7th). The 10 horns are not the sixth kingdom, because the 10 horns' kingdom had not yet come when the 6th was in power, and the horns will rule one hour with the 8th king / beast ascending from the abyss (so the 7th head).

@ewq1938 Go back to the crowns on the heads of the dragon in Revelation 12:3 and consider how they shift to the 10 horns in Revelation 13 because the dragon is giving this 8th king all the power of all the seven combined.

And if he is a king then he is most probably one man.

A false prophet will exercise all his power & authority before him, so he does basically nothing himself, making it less obvious who and what he truly is.
 
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Islam is a Satanic copy of Christianity.

It has a "bible". a "god". a "prophet", a "paradise", a 600 winged angel who dictated the Quran to Mohammed.
Mohammed was illiterate, so, its interesting to note that he was able to write it down.....
He was also a Pedophile.......just study his marriage....
The Bedouin Arab's decided that one of their 300 godz, "their moon God" would become their One True = Allah.
If you've seen the "Islamic" flag, it has a MOON on it, as "allah", is their "moon God" now become their Only..
You'll be told that "allah" just means "god", but that is not the truth.
Just look at their FLAG for an update on Mr MOON God.
It is interesting that their end time savior is the Christian Anti-Christ.

Currently, Islamic Terrorism is trying to "usher in" their "messiah" by violence, who is the coming Anti-Christ.
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Many stories in the Quran are just twisted Bible stories. Also, in Christianity God sends His son to die for mankind. In Islam you send your son to die for Allah.

One interesting thing as that most false religions have the sun, the moon and the stars, which comes from the false religion of Babylon. In most cases the sun god is the male and the moon god is female. In Islam the moon god is the male. The signs of these false gods are EVERYWHERE, they are all around us in logos and commercials, but no one realizes what they are.
 

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Currently, Islamic Terrorism is trying to "usher in" their "messiah" by violence, who is the coming Anti-Christ.
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I recognize that it’s possible that the man of sin could be middle eastern. But I’m now of the opinion that he may be a false Christian in title only, apostate
 
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I recognize that it’s possible that the man of sin could be middle eastern. But I’m now of the opinion that he may be a false Christian in title only, apostate
The Word tells us who this man of sin is, who was and is not and will come again.
 

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The false prophet is not the man of sin. The man of sin is the beast of the sea, and the Antichrist.
I agree with ewq on this one. The man of sin is shown multiple times to be the beast that rises from the earth; the False Prophet

Look at the context of these 2:
2 Thessalonians 2:9
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Revelation 13:12-14
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do

Miracles and great wonders are also the word for signs.
Lying wonders is also understood as falsehood.

And this false prophet has all the power of the 1st beast. How does 1 man rule with authority and according to you, he shares the authority with the beast of the sea? Either you’re the authority or you aren’t.

Daniel 7 proves kings that rule kingdoms rise from the earth. Men never rise from the sea, only kingdoms do.
 
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The false prophet is not the man of sin. The man of sin is the beast of the sea, and the Antichrist.

The man of sin is the FP, both described as being the one to perform miracles to deceive. This means the man of sin is the FP beast. The sea beast is an empire composed of ten smaller kingdoms.


Paul's man of sin is Revelation's false prophet:

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

wonders:

G4592
se¯meion
say-mi'-on
Neuter of a presumed derivative of the base of G4591; an indication, especially ceremonially or supernaturally: - miracle, sign, token, wonder.
Total KJV occurrences: 77

deceived:

G4105
planao¯
plan-ah'-o
From G4106; to (properly cause to) roam (from safety, truth, or virtue): - go astray, deceive, err, seduce, wander, be out of the way.
Total KJV occurrences: 39

miracles:

G4592
s?µe????
se¯meion
say-mi'-on
Neuter of a presumed derivative of the base of G4591; an indication, especially ceremonially or supernaturally: - miracle, sign, token, wonder.
Total KJV occurrences: 77


Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received
the mark of the beast
, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Here we read of the second beast, who performs miracles in the sight of the first beast and performing those miracles in order to deceive the people!



Paul's Antichrist was called the man of sin and he is described as doing the same things for the same reason as the false prophet:

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

lying:

G5579
pseudos
psyoo'-dos
From G5574; a falsehood: - lie, lying.
Total KJV occurrences: 9

wonders:

G5059
teras
Thayer Definition:
1) a prodigy, portent
2) miracle: performed by any one
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of uncertain affinity
Citing in TDNT: 8:113, 1170



"Lying wonders" is the same as "deceiving miracles".

The false prophet and the man of sin are the same person, the Antichrist.
 

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The man of sin is the FP, both described as being the one to perform miracles to deceive. This means the man of sin is the FP beast. The sea beast is an empire composed of ten smaller kingdoms.


Paul's man of sin is Revelation's false prophet:
The man of sin is not the false prophet. If you knew who the man of sin was, you would know that he is not the false prophet.

For one thing, the man of sin is the son of perdition. He is Satan's son.
2 Thes 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Secondly. Here's a riddle for you. We know that the Antichrist and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. So who is this guy that comes to his end during the great tribulation?

Daniel 11
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Daniel 12
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Additionally, the beast is a man

Rev 13
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
 

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And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
The only thing you got right was this quote. Yes, that’s the man of sin. But what you arnt getting is the beast of the sea isn’t a man because it resembles the kingdom and its peoples. That kingdom is given a mouth, the false prophet which is detailed afterwards. The beast of the sea doesn’t become a great orator as if it’s given a mouth after 3 horns are removed..late in the game!
Example: If America was given a mouth to speak lies, cause division and continue for 4 years; it would be President Trump. But America wasn’t the man, it was the kingdom. The man in authority was the mouth, but he rises from the earth, not the sea.
1 Corinthians 15:47-48

Enough scripture has been shown for proof without a doubt.
 

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The man of sin is not the false prophet. If you knew who the man of sin was, you would know that he is not the false prophet.

The man of sin is the false prophet. If you knew who the man of sin was, you would know that he is the false prophet. They both perform miracles to deceive people.
 

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The man of sin is the false prophet. If you knew who the man of sin was, you would know that he is the false prophet. They both perform miracles to deceive people.
The man of sin is the son of perdition. The man of sin is the Antichrist. The man of sin was and is not and will come again. The man of sin is the 1st beast from the sea.

Additionally, I do know who the man of sin is. You should know who the man of sin is also, as the Word tells you who it is.
 

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The only thing you got right was this quote. Yes, that’s the man of sin. But what you arnt getting is the beast of the sea isn’t a man because it resembles the kingdom and its peoples. That kingdom is given a mouth, the false prophet which is detailed afterwards. The beast of the sea doesn’t become a great orator as if it’s given a mouth after 3 horns are removed..late in the game!
Example: If America was given a mouth to speak lies, cause division and continue for 4 years; it would be President Trump. But America wasn’t the man, it was the kingdom. The man in authority was the mouth, but he rises from the earth, not the sea.
1 Corinthians 15:47-48

Enough scripture has been shown for proof without a doubt.
You should have plenty of doubts.

If you knew who the man of sin was, you would understand that he was and is not and will come again. If you understood who the Antichrist is, you would see how those kingdoms were based on him.