the american revolution and the French Revolution are the same, both have colors of red, white, and blue, both have the goddess liberty, France gave the idol to the us, both have the Freemason principles of liberty, equality, and fraternity!
The goddess liberty!
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the american revolution and the French Revolution are the same, both have colors of red, white, and blue, both have the goddess liberty, France gave the idol to the us, both have the Freemason principles of liberty, equality, and fraternity!
A Sculptor had a Vision/ Desire to Bulid a Great Monument to Express Liberty.
He had a place in mind to SET his Sculpture, which WAS in the Well Established country of EGYPT-
Egypt rejected the plan, and the early sketch ideas.
The Sculptor's dream was Not Dashed. He continued with his works, raising money for his works, without yet a Place to Set his Work in progress Sculpture.
As the French and their explorations and trials with Indians in "the new world" became more heated, and America being established and aiding the French with Indians...
The Sculptor turn his focus to His Monument being situated in America.
The planning and money raising and Works and final establishing of a Place for the Monument was over a course YEARS from beginning to end.
Your attempt to minimize the Sculptors idea and Intent and create some Freemason conspiracy of Colors, and IDOL gifted from France To America is ridiculous.
A Gift from France...that thousands of people from multiple countries contributed monies, from construction, exhibits, transportating, and the US building and funding a Base.
It has What to do with the Freemasonary?
Oops you give no facts but only your opinion.
It had What to do with A countries Colors?
Oops the Monument has no nations colors.
It represents "The principle" of WHAT Country?
"American JUSTICE", established BY founding American Statesmen.
It is an IDOL (of Worship?) to What God?
The IDOL of a ROMAN god of Justice?
Prove that. it is speculation guesses OF men.
The US Founding Statesmen DID NOT model the US Justice system after Roman gods...or Freemasonary...but rather on Biblical Principles.
The Statue of Liberty is representative of Hope. And you obviously do not Know what is the difference between Hope and Worship or What the Hope WAS for Foreigners... leaving an Oppressive country, seeking a new country...And the Hope...that Religeous Freedom, education opportunities, ability to Work,invent, farm, be treated Equally under the Law...could Exist For Them IN America.
And Hope...
The Opportunities Would NOT be Destroyed Before they were Able to Experience those Things in their Lifetime.
No, the Statue of Liberty is Not an Idol of Worship.
It "was" prominately a Symbol of Hope, in The Establishment of a newly formed Government, by Statesmen, whose Principles were moldeled after Biblical Principles.
The Symbol still Stands...but the Established Principles of American Government HAS been Radically Changed by Corrupt Politicians sitting in honored seats, raping the people of their Liberties for years and years, little by little, THAT from generation to generation They are an Ignorant People unknowing of what HAS become lost to them.
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Lol! Guess I know who is going to try the microwave peep this year
The way I like them is, poke a few holes in the package and throw them in a drawer for a day or two...yu-meee..I like them stale. You can dip them in chocolate and freeze them too!
Somehow, a stale peep doesn't really entice me, Lol. But I'll try to keep an open mind, should opportunity present itself : )
an idol of rebellion of Lucifer and his children especially the sons of the morning or a mysterious force other named for Freemasons and the sculptor was. Freemason!
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I didn't say that you called Mary our savior. I objected to your calling Mary "the mother of our salvation." Of course, you can believe whatever you want to believe, but it's not the truth.
The terms you're using are not the same thing. The Bible never calls Mary "the mother of our salvation." What does this mean, anyway?? I mean, in practical terms.
This is the truth: Christ is all and in all (Col 3:11). It was Christ alone who bled and died for us on the cross. HE HIMSELF bore our sins in His body on the cross! He alone the Shepherd and Guardian of our souls!
1 Pet 2:21-25
21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22 who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth; 23 and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed. 25 For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.
Oh good grief,
* Ifyou are not a foreigner who sought liberty from a foreign oppressed country, the Monument represented no Hope to you.
* If you are a Natural Born American citizen, you are severely lacking American History.
* If you think every man, particularly men whose lively-hood and interest is Masonary and construction and their Election to join a brother-hood of men with like-minded Construction Interests.....means every man member is some sort voodoo weirdo trying to control the World...you are sorely lacking in Knowledge of Freemasonary.
Frederic A Bartholdi - Life from childhood to College and Works were all about Art, drawing, sketching, sculpting Numerous Monuments representing a Countries Achievements.
You are obviously uninformed of the Freemason brotherhood of constructionists members helping each other World wide.
But that's okay...ignorance is easy, talking points are easy, the Truth is hard to seek.
"Goddess of Liberty". LOL
* Countries, like boats, like the Earth, are referenced as The female (she, her, mother)!
The official:
Statue of Liberty National Monument
Was an intense labor or a talented Artist-
(who himself experienced war and oppression in his own nation and embraced the ideals of Liberty)...gifted to the US in honor of the Centennial of American Independence.
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You keep putting words in God's mouth, and this is dangerous! I would not add to the words in the book of Revelation! Revelation 12 doesn't say ANYTHING about the "queen of heaven." I told you where the Bible uses this term in Jeremiah, and it's in reference to the goddess Asherah. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is never referred to as the queen of heaven.
Jesus is God
Jesus is the savior
Jesus is the shepherd etc.
Mary is His mother, the mother of His person!
this is simple logic,
Jesus is God? Yes
Mary is His mother? Yes
Mary is therefore the mother of God!
Not the mother of the divinity for God is in His nature uncreated and eternal so don’t confuse the matter, I never said Mary was the mother of the Father or the HS or the divinity or the source of the divinity! But the mother of Jesus who IS God! And the mother of Jesus who is both our savior and our salvation, therefore Mary is the mother of our salvation! And the mother of our savior! Jesus Is the word, so Mary is the mother of the word!
what does the Bible mean in Lk 1:28 Mary is blessed? And Mary found favor with God? And what are the great things God did to Her? Lk 1:49
and America was not created by Freemasons with Freemason principals? Wash dc is a pagan Atlantis pagan gods goddesses and pagan symbols everywhere, even GW a mason becoming god! But the US is a Christian nation!
the queen of Heaven was a pagan goddess in the time of Jeremiah not Mary!
Rev 12:1 a crown of stars does not a queen have a crown and is she not in heaven?
Freemasons is a brotherhood...
So what?
You don't have an interest in them Don't join.
Shriners,
Boy Scouts,
Scottish Rites,
Sports Teams,
Firemen,
Policemen,
Iron workers, brothers of the hook,
Christian,
Islam,
Pirates,
Mafia,
Bowling Leagues,
Chefs,
Farming,
Engineering,
Scientists,
Blah, blah, blah, ...
There are hundreds and hundreds of Groups A FREE person can join at his own election.
Not ONE group Built or Established America!
Thousands of people from all walks of life and involved in all kinds of private interests have contributed their Time, Talents, Efforts, in American Building and Defenses.
You decide your own God, and afford every other the Same option.
Just don't dictate what others have Chosen.
IF you think PAGANS have a Monopoly or Patent on Art, Symbols, and such, you are sadly mistaken.
People are not that inventative...They gleen ideas from things they've heard and seen.
You think the Lesbians Clever in their Symbol of a Rainbow?...that is Gods Symbol to never cause another World wide Flood.
It is corrupt to redefine an others original Intent, and attribute their intent to their corrupt redefining.
And BTW if you studied the Founders, and Understood what a Republic form of Government is, and Why that Was Chosen, And The Parallel of Early Laws and Documents TO Scripture...you might understand ...
That America was not Established on A Religion...but That Biblical PRINCIPLES, were certainly the model, and a Republic was the closest thing to a man made Government, that reflected Gods Intended Government on Earth, in the Future.
Glory to God,
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No. Why? Do they blow up into balloons or something? "The Peep That Ate Chicago!"
I know. Maybe they turn evil, like after being hit with radiation or something.
They melt in a funny shape
Love the peep in the pick
Logic is deductive reasoning of the Mind to come to a "therefore" conclusion.
Belief is established on the thoughts of the Heart, not the Mind and logic thereof..
Scripture is True Knowledge. Scripture has an Order it presents Knowledge, that one can believe, as it stands, OR use Mindful Logic to Expand Scripture, Beyond its Intent.
This is completely backwards from Scripture.
Here you begin with your Logical Conclusion,
In an attempt to "therefore" prove your point.
Glory to God,
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yeh that part is pretty obvious i think, the tying in to Protestants not so much
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ha you dont think?
why does the whole world wanna live in america then?
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Indeed, and while the role of God, of the Father, a male role may be taken by any person God calls to it. He has most certainly called physical women to work in His behalf. There are definite roles for physical women and for for physical men in the carnal world in which we live, but for those who have put on Christ?My "spiritual mother," figuratively speaking, is a woman who began praying for my salvation before I was born. My parents were not Christians when I was growing up, but this woman gave me a Bible when I graduated from high school, and God used this Bible in the process of saving me. However, literally speaking, no human is our spiritual parent. Only God is our spiritual Father.
I seriously doubt that Mary had anything to do with my salvation. Sorry if this offends you.
"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:27-28
This goes along with the words made famous by Superman:
"Truth, Justice and the American Way!"
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there was a movie along these lines that came out several years ago, "Team America: World Police" which i found hilarious, but it is maybe a little harsh...anyway, a YT link, but a language warning is prolly in order
I remember in grade school [1950's] when the "under God" was inserted into the pledge to the flag which everyone recited every morning before beginning class.
When I moved to Oklahoma in 1987 my first Oklahoma pastor would stand with the group who were reciting the pledge to the flag out of respect for them but he would not place his hand on his heart nor would he open his mouth. He never taught that anyone else should do as he did, but he explained that he had a personal conviction about it.
