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[Illuminator]

Luke 11:27-28 KJV
[27] And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. [28] But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

This would’ve been the perfect opportunity for Jesus to say yes worship her...... why didn’t He?
Tecarta Bible

Because that would be sinful, just as it is sinful for Catholics to worship Mary.

 

[Illuminator]

 

[Waiting on him]

What is this?

 

[Waiting on him]

What is this?

@Illuminator, please Illuminate me as to why these seemingly adult men play with dolls?

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[Illuminator]

There are 3 priests worshiping bobble heads! Any idiot can see that!!

 

[Enow]

Calling priests "father" does not mean calling them God. Only stupid people come to that conclusion.

I believe Jesus was deferring Christian leaders from using that title or be called by that title in the service of Him along with Rabbi & Master.

 

[BreadOfLife]

"Hail Mary" is not a prayer???
Who were we talking to then?
Mary or ourselves?

Who said the "Hail Mary" wasn't a prayer??
I said it's not a requirement.

Pay attention, Einstein . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Why was Mary saved from eternal death if she never sinned?

She was saved from eternal death like every other Christian.
As I have already told you - she was saved before she was born.

Maybe a reading comprehension class wouldn't be a waste of your time . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, they love the Pope more than the Bible.
Catholics don't study the N.T.

I was raised in a home that had only OT RCC published Bibles(no NT's).
The priest did not want us to see Acts.
Why?

We don't study the NT?
I and others here have run circles around your idiotic arguments using the NT Scriptures.

As for the home you were raised in - this speaks VOLUMES about your complete ignorance of Scripture . . .

 

[Truther]

We don't study the NT?
I and others here have run circles around your idiotic arguments using the NT Scriptures.

As for the home you were raised in - this speaks VOLUMES about your complete ignorance of Scripture . . .

So far, you have produced zero scriptures to debunk me.

You only produce rhetoric.

Typical Catholic.

 

[Truther]

She was saved from eternal death like every other Christian.
As I have already told you - she was saved before she was born.

Maybe a reading comprehension class wouldn't be a waste of your time . . .

Sinless Mary faced eternal death?

Please elaborate how this is possible?

 

[Truther]

Who said the "Hail Mary" wasn't a prayer??
I said it's not a requirement.

Pay attention, Einstein . . .

If "Hail Mary" is not a required prayer, why do the beads on the rosary represent that specific prayer to be chanted immediately as ordered by the priest, after having one's sins remitted by the priest in the black box?

 

[BreadOfLife]

You have made many assumptions. I did not say that Jesus did not honour Mary as a mother (that is your accusation which you will need to go back a give the post#). I said He made nothing special of her when she and Jesus brothers and sisters stood without waiting to talk to him (yep he had brothers and sisters right there in scriptures) ... should Jesus have said "behold the queen of heaven" (or something).

Also the woman in revelation is NOT Mary (that is your assumption to fit your flawed theory). The woman is Israel...

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Revelation 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

BTW, if you contend this is still Mary, then you have her with a whole slew of kids (as the dragon went to make war with the remnant of her seed)

Ohhh, you still need to address the end of this whole shibang, with God remembering the iniquities of the RCC and the candle being removed forever. Why are you disobedient against God, which is saying, "come out of her my people that you do not partake in her iniquities."

Once again - the "Woman" in Rev. 12 is Mary - AND Israel. It is a polyvalent symbol.
Mary gave birth to Jesus.
Jesus came out of Israel.

She has a crown of Twelve Stars, symbolizing the 12 Tribes of Israel.
The crown of Twelve Stars, ALSO symbolizes the 12 Apostles, who are the fulfillment of the 12 Tribes.

The Dragon stood before the Woman, waiting to devour her child.
Herod tried to kill the baby Jesus.

The Woman fled to the desert.
Mary and Joseph fled to the desert (Egypt).

Don't just quote the Bible.
STUDY it and learn what it is saying.

 

[Truther]

Once again - the "Woman" in Rev. 12 is Mary - AND Israel. It is a polyvalent symbol.
Mary gave birth to Jesus.
Jesus came out of Israel.

She has a crown of Twelve Stars, symbolizing the 12 Tribes of Israel.
The crown of Twelve Stars, ALSO symbolizes the 12 Apostles, who are the fulfillment of the 12 Tribes.

The Dragon stood before the Woman, waiting to devour her child.
Herod tried to kill the baby Jesus.

The Woman fled to the desert.
Mary and Joseph fled to the desert (Egypt).

Don't just quote the Bible.
STUDY it and learn what it is saying.

Contextual ping pong.

lol

 

[BreadOfLife]

Sinless Mary faced eternal death?
Please elaborate how this is possible?

Here is the easiest way to explain it - so that even a person l you can understand:

Sin is a puddle of mud that we ALL fall into.
Christ pulls us out of the mud of sin, if we choose to follow Him.
Mary was prevented from falling into the mud in the first place.

See? That wasn't so hard . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Contextual ping pong.
lol

Impotent, non-response.

Oh, ummm . . . "LOL."

 

[BreadOfLife]

If "Hail Mary" is not a required prayer, why do the beads on the rosary represent that specific prayer to be chanted immediately as ordered by the priest, after having one's sins remitted by the priest in the black box?

I've been to confession dozens of times without being told to pray the Hail Mary.

More of your ignorance on display . . .

 

[Truther]

I've been to confession dozens of times without being told to pray the Hail Mary.

More of your ignorance on display . . .

Funny, what about all the other times?

 

[BreadOfLife]

So far, you have produced zero scriptures to debunk me.
You only produce rhetoric.
Typical Catholic.

I've given DOZENS of verses to debunk ALL of you.
Go back and read the posts. Take that Reading Comprehension class first . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Funny, what about all the other times?

I happen to know that prayer.
Somebody else may not.