gadar perets
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I gave my understanding in the "Eternal Security" thread, post #1214. However, I will repost it here since this is a more appropriate thread for it.What name shall the child that is born, the son that is given, be called in Isaiah 9:6?
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. KJV
Yes, a 100% human child is born to a human mother. The son is given to us by YHWH. YHWH puts the government upon his shoulders (Isaiah 9:7). The Hebrew for "the mighty God" is "el gibbor" which can be translated "mighty warrior" or "mighty el". Since Yeshua is NOT the "only true God" (John 17:3), the verse should not use "God" with a capital "G".
As for "Everlasting Father", there are at least 27 names in the Bible with the same Hebrew construction as in this verse. Each one means the "father of (something)." For example, Abishua means "father of plenty." Instead of translating the phrase as "father of eternity," the KJV reversed the sequence making the true meaning harder to discern. Several newer versions correct this mistake such as The Emphasized Bible, The Bible in Basic English, The New American Bible, The Holy Bible; A Translation From the Latin Vulgate in the Light of the Hebrew and Greek Originals, and The New English Bible, just to name a few. Yeshua is the father of eternity because eternal life comes to us through him. And so it is written in Hebrews 5:9, "And being made perfect, he became the author (or father) of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;"
Additionally, the article "the" for "the mighty God" and "the everlasting Father" and "the Prince of Peace" is not in the Hebrew. Neither are there capital letters in the Hebrew. The English conveniently capitalizes "God" and "Father" to lead our minds in the direction the trinitarian translators want us to think.
So, to answer your question, his name should be called "wonderful, counsellor, mighty warrior, father of eternity, prince of peace".