Got it - thanks
Well we know that the "two witnesses" are resurrected and caught up = as you pointed out Rev ch11.
We also know that Rev ch11 shows a 'conclusion' of events = "the seventh angel sounded"
What i believe (imfa) is that Revelation repeats the Second Coming such as we see in 6:9-17 and 10:5-7 and ch11 and ch14 and ch19
i believe there are 7 Iterations of His Second Coming in Revelation
OK you've lost me on the 7 - I take it you mean 7 mentions of His 2nd coming? I've noticed that Revelation 10 is in-between the 6th and 7th trumpets, so I take it to be like a seal (not a seal but like a seal) that's being opened by way of introduction to the 7th trumpet:
5 Then the angel I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven
6 and swore by the one who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, and the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, "There will be no more delay!
7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to blow his trumpet, the mystery of God is completed, just as he has proclaimed to his servants the prophets."
So that introduces the 7th trumpet, but following this we are told about the 1,260 days that lead up to the sounding of the 7th trumpet, before it sounds.
I believe chapter 11 is telling us that
Pharaoh the beast will go to war against the saints (Revelation 13:7), increasing the tribulation of God's people in
Egypt the world while
Moses and Aaron God's two witnesses prophesy. The 7th trumpet and 7th bowl of wrath is the destruction of
Pharaoh's the beast's armies and the redemption of God's people, on the same Day of the LORD, who are saved by the blood of the Lamb from the final plague of death.
God's people remain in
Egypt the world while the last plagues are being poured out, but are kept from being harmed by them:
Revelation 9:4
4 And they were commanded not to hurt the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men
who do not have the seal of God in their foreheads.
Revelation 13
8 And all dwelling on the earth will worship it,
those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain, from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man has an ear, let him hear.
10 He who leads into captivity will go into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed by a sword.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Revelation 16
2 And the first went and poured out his vial on the earth. And a bad and grievous sore fell
on the men who had the mark of the beast, and on those who worshiped his image.
Revelation 3
10 "Because you have
kept [tēréō] the word of My patience, I also will keep [tēréō] you from the hour of temptation which will come upon all the world, to try those who dwell upon the earth."
John 17
6 "I have revealed Your name to the men whom You gave to Me out of the world. They were Yours, and You gave them to Me,
and they have kept [τηρησω tēréō: guarded from loss or injury by keeping their eye upon and preserving] Your word."
14 I have given them Your Word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15
I do not pray for You to take them out of the world, but for You to keep [tēréō] them from the evil."
Revelation 3
10 "Because you have kept [tēréō] the word of My patience, I also will keep [tēréō] you from the hour of temptation which will come upon all the world, to try those who dwell upon the earth."
[StrongsGreek 5083]
tereo tay-reh'-o from teros (a watch; perhaps akin to 2334); to guard (from loss or injury, properly, by keeping the eye upon; and thus differing from 5442, which is properly to prevent escaping; and from 2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus), i.e. to note (a prophecy; figuratively, to fulfil a command); by implication, to detain (in custody; figuratively, to maintain); by extension, to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively, to keep unmarried); by extension, to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively, to keep unmarried):--hold fast, keep(- er), (pre-, re-)serve, watch.
Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial on the great river Euphrates. And its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the rising of the sun might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, working miracles, which go forth to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that day, the great day of God Almighty.
15
Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is the one who watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
When He comes, the resurrection and the rapture occurs. The destruction of the beast's armies follows, and the beast & false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. Satan is bound for 1,000 years.
The 7th trumpet and 7th bowl of wrath is the destruction of
Pharaoh's the beast's armies and the redemption of God's people, on the same Day of the LORD, who are saved by the blood of the Lamb from the final plague of death.
- but this is what I see.
So, far from there being a pre-trib rapture ...
Jesus will guard those who have guarded the Word of His patience.
@David in NJ The seven last plagues are also called the bowls of wrath - but the 7th plague is also the fullness and finality of the wrath.
God's destruction of the beast, his armies and his kingdom does not occur before then. It's the deliverance of God's people from Egypt - the type tells us about the anti-type. The Revelation is
saturated with type & anti-type, because it's the culmination of it all.
