My mind is like unto a ping pong ball rolling down Rapture/or not lane as I can see both sides!!!!! LOL
Hi Nancy,
Perhaps consider;
Our carnal mind, is the first to hear about the Lord.
Our carnal mind is naturally against the Lord.
When a man is being enlightened By Hearing, the Lord gives him measures of faith.
To his mind? No.
It is in our heart, where our natural spirit is, which is "our natural truth",
And it is our "natural truth; ie our spirit, ie in our heart; that is being enlightened by hearing the Lords Truth.
A man who continues hearing, believing, ie being enlightened; is a man whom the Lord continues increasing his faith, in his natural spirit, in his heart.
The Increase is the Lord preparing the man...actually Calling the man unto Him, where many are called, but few chosen.
The chosen are they who Choose to answer the Lords calling.
Those that answer; do so by calling on the Lords name, confessing belief to Him IN Him.
And the Lord commences Converting the man Who Chose Him.
We can do nothing of ourselves. It is his gift of faith, and increase, and our desire to be with Him, that His Faith increases journeys us TO Him.
And what about our carnal mind? It's still carnal. The Lord did not seek a carnal minded confession, but rather a natural spirit confession and submission from the Faith in our natural spirit, in our heart.
During a mans Conversion the Lord does several things...
Particularly, but not limited to; forgiveness, for the mans disbelief, corrupting his soul, Circumcised the mans heart, with a new heart, and births the man a new spirit, via His Seed.
The old becomes passed away. But again what about the carnal mind? The carnal mind remains, thinking, pondering, weighing, logically concluding between this and that of everyday decisions, AND is still subject to hearing and exposed to conieving men, philosophies of men, men trying to convince you to follow their way.
It is paramount that a converted man Learn and know Gods Precepts, His Way, Which is why a man continues learning and studying His Word, His Way.
It is paramount for a Converted man to know, His carnal mind IS his responsibility to lay aside his Carnal thoughts and allow the thoughts in his new Spirit, in his new heart, effected by and through the Lords Spirit IN the mans New heart, guiding him.
In short - If men are Converted, but still using their Carnal mind to challenge the Word of God....they are displaying a lack of wisdom in having mastered trusting their new spirit over their carnal mind.
If a man comprehends causing their new spirit (fed by Christ's Spirit) to supersede/trump their Carnal thoughts....."they" Are displaying the maturity of their faith, and transforming their Own carnal mind To a spiritual minded thought process.
It is simply a man changing his own paradime by and through the indwelling power of the Lord, that He blesses the man ...WHO puts forth the effort to HAVE a relationship With the Lord.....opposed to; snatching some gifts from the Lord and Doing Nothing with those gifts to Have a true meaningful and constant relationship with the Lord.
Just saying, IF you Trust the Lord and have surrendered your Life TO Him, challenge yourself, why you would have cause to Trust your carnal mind, with logic and weighing spiritual things, when you have the Truth of the Lord IN you.
God created and made men and their habitat (earth).
Both man and his habitat have become corrupt.
He gave us an example. Saved Noah, Lifted Noah up above the face of the waters, above the earth. Then His attention was on mans habitat. He cleansed the earth with water. And then set the Saved Noah in a cleansed habitat.
In the last days, Jesus came to divide. It's like a reality check to the World. Time to choose your standing; with or without the Lord. And what ones chooses, the Lord will accomplish that your choice be effected.
He is establishing and testifying of Who is in standing with or without Him.
On a day of His choosing, He shall claim and take those who are with Him, and like in Noah's day, shall leave those without him, on the earth, as He proceeds to purify the earth with fire,
While those with Him Are with Him, above the face of the earth, in the air/clouds. They too shall be returned to the earth, when the Lord descends upon the earth. (Because we already know, once With the Lord, a man is where the Lord is).
Trust in the Lord, lean on His understanding. Trump your mind with His Truth.
God Bless,
Taken