The Ten Commandments—What happened?

[Cooper]

Not when the word of God specifies the time. evening and morning is 24 hours. And in Daniel 9, it is one year.

9:24 Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people (Israel) and for your holy city (Jerusalem). The historical fulfillment of the first part of the prophecy shows that the weeks are weeks of years. Thus seventy weeks equal 490 years. We will see that the seventy weeks are divided into seven weeks plus sixty-two weeks, and then, after a time gap, one final week. At the end of these seventy weeks, the following six things will happen:

To finish the transgression, to make an end of sins. While this may refer in a general sense to all Israel's sinful ways, it has special reference to the nation's rejection of the Messiah. At the Second Advent of Christ, a remnant will turn to Him in faith and the nation's transgression and sins will be forgiven.

To make reconciliation for iniquity. The basis for reconciliation was laid at Calvary, but this refers to the time, still future, when the believing portion of the nation of Israel will come into the benefit and enjoyment of the finished work of Christ.

To bring in everlasting righteousness. This, too, points forward to the Second Advent and the Millennium, when the King will reign in righteousness. It is everlasting righteousness in the sense that it will continue on into the eternal state.

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[Cooper]

To seal up vision and prophecy. The main body of OT prophecy centers on the glorious Return of Christ to earth, and His subsequent kingdom. Therefore, the bulk of prophecies will be fulfilled at the end of the seventy weeks.
And to anoint the Most Holy Place. At the beginning of the thousand-year reign, the temple described in Ezekiel 40-44 will be anointed or consecrated in Jerusalem. The glory will return in the Person of the Lord (Eze_43:1-5).
9:25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuing of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. This was the decree of Artaxerxes in 445 B.C. (Neh_2:1-8).

Until Messiah the Prince. This refers not merely to the First Advent of Christ, but more particularly to His death (see v. 26a).
There shall be seven weeks (forty-nine years) and sixty-two weeks (434 years). The sixty-nine weeks are divided into two periods, seven weeks and sixty-two weeks.

The city shall be built again, with plaza and moat, even in troublesome times. Jerusalem would be rebuilt (during the first seven weeks) with public square and protective channel, but not without opposition and turmoil.
9:26 Then after the sixty-two weeks—that is, after the sixty-two week portion of time, which is really at the end of the sixty-ninth week,
The Messiah shall be cut off. Here we have an unmistakable reference to the Savior's death on the cross. A century ago in his book The Coming Prince, Sir Robert Anderson gave detailed calculations of the sixty-nine weeks, using "prophetic years," allowing for leap years, errors in the calendar, the change from B.C. to A.D., etc., and figured that the sixty-nine weeks ended on the very day of Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem, five days before his death.
But not for Himself, or literally and have nothing. This may mean that He had received nothing from the nation of Israel, to which He had come. Or it may mean that He died without apparent posterity (Isa_53:8). Or it may be a general statement of His utter poverty; He left nothing but the clothes that He wore.
And the people of the prince who is to come. This prince who is to come is the head of the revived Roman Empire, identified by some as the Antichrist. He will come to power during the Tribulation. His people, of course, are the Romans.
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The Romans, under Titus, destroyed Jerusalem and its magnificent gold-trimmed white marble temple in A.D. 70.
The end of it shall be with a flood. The city was leveled as if by a flood. Not one stone of the temple, for instance, was left on another. Titus forbade his soldiers to put Herod's temple to the torch, but in order to get the gold they disobeyed, thus melting down the gold. To retrieve the melted gold successfully from between the stones they had to pry loose the great stones, thus fulfilling Christ's words in Mat_24:1-2, as well as Daniel's prophecy.

And till the end of the war desolations are determined. From that time on, the history of the city would be one of war and destruction. The end here means the end of the times of the Gentiles.

 

[Cooper]

9:27 We now come to the seventieth week. As mentioned previously, there is a time gap between the sixty-ninth and seventieth weeks. This parenthetical period is the Church Age, which extends from Pentecost to the Rapture. It is never mentioned specifically in the OT; it was a secret hidden in God from the foundation of the world but revealed by the apostles and prophets of the NT period. However, the principle of a gap is nicely illustrated by our Lord in the synagogue at Nazareth (Luk_4:18-19). Jesus quoted Isa_61:1, Isa_61:2 a but cut it short at "the acceptable year of the LORD" (His First Advent), and left off the judgment of His Second Advent: "and the day of vengeance of our God" (Isa_61:2 b). In between was to occur the whole Church Age.

Then he (the Roman prince) shall confirm a covenant with many (the unbelieving majority of the nation of Israel) for one week (the seven-year Tribulation Period). It may be a friendship treaty, a non-aggression treaty, or a guarantee of military assistance against any nation attacking Israel.

But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. The Roman prince will turn hostile toward Israel, forbidding further sacrifices and offerings to Jehovah.

And on the wing of abominations. We learn from Mat_24:15 that he will set up an abominable idolatrous image in the temple and presumably he will command that it be worshiped. Some think that wing here refers to a wing of the temple.
Shall be one who makes desolate. He will persecute and destroy those who refuse to worship the image.

Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate. Terrible persecution of the Jews will continue for the last half of the seventieth week, a period known as the Great Tribulation. Then the Roman prince, "the one who makes desolate," will himself be destroyed, as decreed by God, by being cast into the lake of fire (Rev_19:20).

 

[CharismaticLady]

9:24 Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people (Israel) and for your holy city (Jerusalem). The historical fulfillment of the first part of the prophecy shows that the weeks are weeks of years. Thus seventy weeks equal 490 years. We will see that the seventy weeks are divided into seven weeks plus sixty-two weeks, and then, after a time gap, one final week. At the end of these seventy weeks, the following six things will happen:

To finish the transgression, to make an end of sins. While this may refer in a general sense to all Israel's sinful ways, it has special reference to the nation's rejection of the Messiah. At the Second Advent of Christ, a remnant will turn to Him in faith and the nation's transgression and sins will be forgiven.

To make reconciliation for iniquity. The basis for reconciliation was laid at Calvary, but this refers to the time, still future, when the believing portion of the nation of Israel will come into the benefit and enjoyment of the finished work of Christ.

To bring in everlasting righteousness. This, too, points forward to the Second Advent and the Millennium, when the King will reign in righteousness. It is everlasting righteousness in the sense that it will continue on into the eternal state.

Believers Bible. There is more.

See, a day is a year. Not 1000. However, Daniel 9 is only about the timing of Jesus, and the destruction of the temple. Verse 27 there is no gap as I always thought too. It is still the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. The second Jewish revolt happened in 66 AD to 73 AD, and in the middle of the week is 70 AD.

That is not to say that the GT is past. No, the 7 years of Daniel 8, 67 BC to 60 BC, and the 7 years of Daniel 9 are paradigms to the little horn of Daniel 7, the beast. Therefore, I agree there will be another 7 year period for the Jews after the fullness of the Gentiles come into the Church Romans 11.

The New Covenant IS the Church. It was a covenant with Israel. Some were blinded when they wouldn't enter in. However, that blindness is only until the fullness of the Gentiles come into the Church, and then no more Gentiles will be saved (God will put a strong delusion on the remaining Gentiles in the world), and the eyes of national Israel will be opened and believe in the Messiah, and they too will come into the Church.

When Jesus comes with "those who sleep in Jesus" ONLY, then we who are alive and remain at the end of the GT will be changed and caught up to meet them in air as Jesus descends. There is no such thing as a secret rapture 7 years before the actual second coming. He doesn't come back with the living, only those who were asleep in Jesus.

I see this is off topic, so that's all I have to say.

 

[CharismaticLady]

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[Cooper]

See, a day is a year. Not 1000. However, Daniel 9 is only about the timing of Jesus, and the destruction of the temple. Verse 27 there is no gap as I always thought too. It is still the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. The second Jewish revolt happened in 66 AD to 73 AD, and in the middle of the week is 70 AD.

That is not to say that the GT is past. No, the 7 years of Daniel 8, 67 BC to 60 BC, and the 7 years of Daniel 9 are paradigms to the little horn of Daniel 7, the beast. Therefore, I agree there will be another 7 year period for the Jews after the fullness of the Gentiles come into the Church Romans 11.

I do not know where you got that from and neither do I want to know. We were talking about a 'day' at the time of creation and to think you can have massive forests full of wild animals, insects, apple trees etc. in a few hours is too silly for words. It takes millions of years for that to happen.

And we are all over the place, this thread is about the commandments.
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[CharismaticLady]

I do not know where you got that from and neither do I want to know. We were talking about a 'day' at the time of creation and to think you can have massive forests full of wild animals, insects, apple trees etc. in a few hours is too silly for words. It takes millions of years for that to happen.
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Did God make man an embryo or an adult male? God made the earth with age. You are thinking as a human, and not with the eyes of God.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

For clarification, for Christians are you talking about the eternal laws of God (which I would agree), or the Old Covenant Ten Commandments? Exodus 34:28

<<Old Covenant Ten Commandments? Exodus 34:28>> is nothing but a BLATANT LIE.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[Grailhunter]

<<Old Covenant Ten Commandments? Exodus 34:28>> is nothing but a BLATANT LIE.

Can't read ahhhh! They have courses for that.

 

[Grailhunter]

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What about the other four laws given at Mt. Sinai?
Its 14 laws not ten.
Can't read, can't count!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

a day in the sight of the Lord is as a thousand years

<<a day in the sight of the Lord is as a thousand years>>. A day in the sight of the Lord is - rather, sometimes, is "AS a thousand years" and NEVER in the sight of the Lord, IS a day. Most elementary linguistic, semantic principle you do know perfectly well but pretend you are completely stupid about.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Can't read ahhhh! They have courses for that.

You don't need a course to can quote.

 

[Grailhunter]

You don't need a course to can quote.

You don't need a course to can quote
Top notch sentence you got there.

Believe what you want because I do not have time to school ya.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Well, like I said....Christ and the Apostles reiterated them. Love God and love one another...
Christ was the total package....like Purina puppy chow complete....ya don't need anything else....lol

So YOU are HERE stating: ya need Love God and love one another...TO BE SAVED : WORKS SALVATION! lol

 

[Grailhunter]

So YOU are HERE stating: ya need Love God and love one another...TO BE SAVED : WORKS SALVATION! lol

Here ya go listen up and read it real slow.
The loving, the sweet, the compassionate, the forgiving, oh my gosh the Patient!!!! I stand in awe of Christ's finest!.
I can claim my compassion for those that need help and those in danger, but admittedly I am deficient in some of these areas.
My beside manner for those that are slow and hardheaded and have an attitude....I am not your nurse.
If you want someone to coddle you and put up with your difficulties with understanding the scriptures, I recommend one of the ladies, but only if you are willing to learn.

 

[CharismaticLady]

So YOU are HERE stating: ya need Love God and love one another...TO BE SAVED : WORKS SALVATION! lol

It is not a work if it is inside you and part of the divine nature you are partaking of. Works are only those things that have to be taught as a ritual. Sabbaths, clean food vs. unclean food, circumcision. Things outside. The circumcision of the heart is inside and allows you to establish the law of loving God with all your heart, mind and body, and loving others as yourself. It is the ministry of the Spirit.

I certainly hope you are not one of those who believes obedience to believing in Jesus and loving your neighbor is a work. That is a total misunderstanding of the New Covenant. Only the Old Covenant couldn't be kept naturally, because the laws of God are against the carnal nature. Jesus died to free us from sin, and the nature that produced it. That is what being born again is all about. Being able to be righteous naturally.

 

[justbyfaith]

We are given the Holy Spirit through faith (Galatians 3:14) and the love of the Lord through the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5).

Therefore, love and its practical outworking is not what saves us; but it is a part of our salvation that the love of the Lord is shed abroad in our hearts.

 

[justbyfaith]

What about the other four laws given at Mt. Sinai?
Its 14 laws not ten.
Can't read, can't count!

Look at how it is presented in Deuteronomy 5:6-21: and consider that in Deuteronomy 6:22, it says that the commandments given in that passage were written on tables of stone. Compare to Exodus 34:28, where it says that ten commandments were written on tables of stone. Then count the number of commandments in Deuteronomy 5:6-21.

 

[Grailhunter]

Look at how it is presented in Deuteronomy 5:6-21: and consider that in Deuteronomy 6:22, it says that the commandments given in that passage were written on tables of stone. Compare to Exodus 34:28, where it says that ten commandments were written on tables of stone. Then count the number of commandments in Deuteronomy 5:6-21.

Look again...
In chapter 20 God spoke 10 laws and the people freaked.
After they settled down He gave 4 more...and then went on to ordinances.
They are summaries.
If you were to study the 613 Mosaic Laws you would know that these summaries are defined more complete in actual body of the Law.

Then we turn to chapter 34 and here hands down and for sure is the only place in the Bible that God Himself called a set of laws the Ten Commandments and and even more specific God said these were the Laws that would form a Covenant. And even more, these are the Law that He told Moses to write on the two Tablets of the Testimony and in fact the scripture indicate that Moses did that.

Now if you want to point out that Deuteronomy points to another set of laws....that is your problem to resolve.
I am going to stick with what God spoke Himself, directly to Moses.