Actually, Eve was said to be the mother of all living even before Cain was born...check it out in holy scripture.
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Not necessarily...I posit to you that the things of Middle Earth may have been a reality pre-flood.
No one is advocating A license to Sin I don't know how you see that in that response, You Definitely have a misinterpreted definition for grace. Grace is Unmerited Mery or Favor, Grace it is part of God’s character. God In His Mercy Sent Jesus To Die For Our Sins, By Grace are you saved through Faith, You Remind me of the isralites in exodus, Thought they could keep the whole law you go 100 steps further and think you can go without ever sinning again, Notice they made an idol To baal, You have fallen for Satans Lie In Genesis. You cant Be like God But you can accept His Free Gift through the Shed Blood Of Jesus, Jesus Died For the sins of the world, the Blood Of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. he is the propitiation for our sins. Without him you can do Nothing, Id suggest you stop striving for what you cant acheive And take His Free Gift, That will sort out your Sin Problem
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The free gift is being made righteous (Romans 5:15-17, Romans 5:19, 1 John 3:7, Matthew 5:6).
Read it how you want...it's not an essential of the faith...just an interesting tidbit.
Well, that Doesn't apply to you in your own admission But no, God Is Generous and gives many Gifts But The one that's important is Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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You know, I see you guys shifting and shuffling and doing all sorts of fancy footwork to achieve what?? Whatever the Law is written on it is God's Law and is as valid on stone as it is in our hearts.
Those who don't have it written on their hearts, does not invalidate them written on stone and those who really do have them in their hearts will find no objection to those written on stone.....that's gotta be as obvious as a train smash! If there's an objection it reveals a muddled mess in the persons thinking.
orrrr....is it that folk think they can get away with breaking them if they say they are written on stone??.....if they can't, then they are still valid!!
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
Fancy Footwork indeed You dont Show Love By keeping a list of rules You find it in the person of Jesus, From the overflow of the mouth the heart speaks, Jesus is the word of God and God Said....Let there be Light
Love is the fulfilling of the law Romans 13:10. When walking in the Spirit you have the chance to Reflect Gods Love to the world, Real Love Comes from God as God is Love, Satan has a false counter of Love that the world Sees Which is Love for Self (Pride), People Hated Jesus and Paul Said Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? The world doesnt understand God Without covering too many points If you are walking in the spirit you would not break any of the 10 comandments Jesus Elevated things To much higher spiritual principles
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Ronald Nolette
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Just as good a guess as everyone elses! I prefer to say I don't know! Could have been real quick, could have been real long! God being omniscient may have caused them to wait till the fall to have kids. So He wouldn't have to repeat teh test over and over and over and over again! Don't kow!
When God is silent we should seek to be as well! All every "guesstimate" is simply based on circumstantial evidence in Scripture and that is not enough to make a firm foundation to stand on.
Ronald Nolette
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How do you figure that?
Because I have a dysfunction in my brain that is very well corrected by medicine so that I can function normally with the medicine that I take?
Scripture interprets scripture; and more specifically, immediate context matters.
And I believe that the immediate context of Romans 6:23, in v.22, tells us that the gift of God is being set free from sin; and that the end of that is everlasting life.
The gift of everlasting life, therefore, will not come to you apart from being set free from sin, according to the context.
No, Because you admit that you still sin. You did try and blame the Medication tho, Been Set free from the Consequence of Sin that is Death, But I do think When resurrected The new body will be free from Sin in the meantime there is Santification. Your right about Scripture interprets scripture So Read the end of Romans 5 And the Rest of Romans 6 And you should get a better context
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Think about the Greatest Comandment to love God with all your heart, and with your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength, He is worthy of This all the time,if you say you do this your a Liar, When you fall Short of this your breaking the Greatest Comandment
And, the fact that I have recently sinned does not mean that I will necessarily still sin in the future.
And also, the fact that I "still sin" does not in any way preclude that a man cannot come to the place where he will "go and sin no more."
I can't read your mind.
What is it that you think is borne out by the context that contradicts what we find in Romans 6:22?
I certainly cannot love the Lord my God with all of my heart, mind, soul, and strength, in my own strength.
However, in Romans 5:5 we find a very important principle: that the love of the Lord is shed abroad in the hearts of those who truly believe in Jesus...even the fulness of His love (Ephesians 3:19-20, 1 John 4:8, 1 John 4:16).
Therefore...through faith in Jesus Christ, we can receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14) and the love of the Lord via the Holy Ghost (Romans 5:5)...even the fulness of God's love (Ephesians 3:19-20, 1 John 4:8, 1 John 4:16).
And therefore, it is not out of the question that a man might even fulfill the righteousness of the law as he walks not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4, Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 5:5).
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Nothing Contradicts Scripture, But I am saying your interpretation is wrong, I have trouble taking you serious anymore, You are been a hypocrite by pushing a standard you cant live up to, You preach another Gospel when you say people can stop sinning and wont need a Savior for that, when the Gospel is that Jesus Died for our sins
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures
Let the reader decide:
Rom 6:22, But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom 6:23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
How am I being a hypocrite?
In that, I take medicine for a psychiatric illness?
I believe that the medicine that I take does indeed have an aphrodisiac element to it; because I have in fact lived up to this standard for a full year of my life; but after that year I was placed on these meds and have not been able to get the victory over the lusts of the flesh ever since; while I had what I would call perfect victory previous to that. So yes, I attribute my failure to the medicine that I take.
What I am preaching is a biblical gospel (Matthew 1:21, Titus 2:14, 1 John 1:7, 1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17).
And I will say also unequivocally that those who stop sinning still need the Saviour; for He is the vine and we are the branches.
Our very freedom from sin (John 8:31-36) and victory over sin (1 Corinthians 15:57) is given to us because we abide in the vine, Jesus Christ (see John 15:1-8, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17); so yes, we need Him: He is the very source of holiness through whom we have the power to gain victory over sin...the Holy Spirit is the only way that any of us can walk in freedom (John 8:31-36) and victory (1 Corinthians 15:57)...just read Romans chapter 8.
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How much “ made righteous “ was the Saved man who was a Born-Again member of Pauls church who had sex with his Mother or maybe, to be kind, his Stepmother ?
Only God is Righteous..... Abraham and we Believers are “ counted” as ” Righteous” because Of our Faith in The Promises Of God.....Actual Perfection and Righteousness will become Real “ Over There”
He was not saved (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). And it was his stepmother.
Walking into a church doesn't make you a Christian any more than walking into a McDonald's makes you a hamburger.
Also, are you in some way, shape, or form, denying the message of Romans 5:19?
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AMEN
Whatever the Law is written on it is God's Law and is as valid and of value as it is written in our hearts.
As it is written in stone, it condemns the unbeliever as a standard that they cannot keep.
The believer is not under the law (Romans 6:14) is dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and is delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as it is written on stone (2 Corinthians 3:3).
There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1-a, John 5:24 (kjv)).
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