That's pretty sick. And the 613 figure has been thoroughly debunked....Commandments that God knew all along could not be kept.....
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That's pretty sick. And the 613 figure has been thoroughly debunked....Commandments that God knew all along could not be kept.....
What's the real number?That's pretty sick. And the 613 figure has been thoroughly debunked.
In regards to Matthew 5:20 - "unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven," this statement from Jesus would certainly come as a shock to the multitude of people who had great admiration for the Pharisees and teachers of the law for their knowledge of the law and seeming righteousness and holiness in external observance of the law, yet Jesus points out their righteousness was defective.Of course our salvation is not through law-keeping, or even obedience, or our performance, or our works.
However, we need to take this into account:
Mat 5:20, For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
I 'liked' this but that doesn't mean I agree on everything with you. o, for what it's worth to you. One never knows with SDA.I might wanna add the book of Galatians is a book containing 6 very short chapters. In these 6 chapters circumcision is mentioned 16 times. The commandments are not mentioned once. Yet, those people that wish to do away with GODS commandments use scriptures from Galatians to try and do so. The law of circumcism is one of the carnal ordinances of the law that were nailed to the cross. Those that wish to do away with Gods 10 commandments will also try and tell you that the ordinances and the ten commandments are simply parts of the law and are not separate from one another. In saying that they will point to a scripture thats speaking of circumcision and then apply that scripture to Gods 10 commandments. This is done to extreme in the book of Galatians. The scripture below separates the law, the commandments and the ordinances
2 KINGS 17 [36] But the LORD, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt with great power and a stretched out arm, him shall ye fear, and him shall ye worship, and to him shall ye do sacrifice.[37] AND the statutes, AND the ordinances, AND the law, AND the commandment, which he wrote for you, ye shall observe to do for evermore; and ye shall not fear other gods.
AND means AND....
1 COR. 7 [19] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
And although the law of circumcision was nailed to the cross, Gods law (the 10 commandments) are to be kept.
In regards to Matthew 5:20 - "unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven," this statement from Jesus would certainly come as a shock to the multitude of people who had great admiration for the Pharisees and teachers of the law for their knowledge of the law and seeming righteousness and holiness in external observance of the law, yet Jesus points out their righteousness was defective.
The righteousness that exceeds the "righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees" (self righteousness) is the righteousness of God which is from God by faith.
Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
Romans 3:21 - But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22
even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference.
Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.
I 'liked' this but that doesn't mean I agree on everything with you. o, for what it's worth to you. One never knows with SDA.
Reminds one of Jesus' judgement on those who claimed, We did this and we did that and we didn't do this and we didn't do that-- never seen you hungry even Lord, or whatever, and then the other bloke who bewailed, O God, be merciful on me, I've never done no good, no not once.Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.
That's pretty sick. And the 613 figure has been thoroughly debunked.
Im not SDA. You??
It's highly disputed, but it isn't 613. 613 is the number contained in the Mitzvot, but rabbinical authorities can't even agree on what constitutes a commandment. The situation is a lot like that of Christendom today. No one can agree on more than a few dozen verses in the New Testament.What's the real number?
They can't even agree on what's what in the Torah.I always wondered about those 613, but then again, Rabbis made up new laws that they themselves couldn't keep. LOL
God's Rest is neither a day nor a person, it is His Act through the Person of Jesus Christ "BY THE ALL-SURPASSING GREATNESS OF HIS POWER WHEN - "ON THE SABBATH" - HE RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD" Ephesians 1:19.God's rest is not a day. It is a person.
It's highly disputed, but it isn't 613. 613 is the number contained in the Mitzvot, but rabbinical authorities can't even agree on what constitutes a commandment. The situation is a lot like that of Christendom today. No one can agree on more than a few dozen verses in the New Testament.
When we bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit, we will not be doing anything in violation of any just law (Galatians 5:22-23, Psalms 94:20).
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I don't think it's inaccurate to use the number 613 to speak of the average # of all the laws in the Old Testament; as opposed to the ten written on tablets.It's highly disputed, but it isn't 613. 613 is the number contained in the Mitzvot, but rabbinical authorities can't even agree on what constitutes a commandment. The situation is a lot like that of Christendom today. No one can agree on more than a few dozen verses in the New Testament.
God bless you.And it must be - will be - JBF who judges it is a <just law> hahahaha
Agreed. If it actually represented an average, but it doesn't, which makes it the opposite of accurate: Inaccurate. But if you only think so, I guess it's ok.I don't think it's inaccurate to use the number 613 to speak of the average # of all the laws in the Old Testament; as opposed to the ten written on tablets.
That's pretty sick. And the 613 figure has been thoroughly debunked.
The number 613 commandments can be used as a representation of a doctrine; that there are more than just the ten written on stone tablets that we have to deal with, per Galatians 6:13.Agreed. If it actually represented an average, but it doesn't, which makes it the opposite of accurate: Inaccurate. But if you only think so, I guess it's ok.