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The Wedding Feast/Marriage Supper

Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by stunnedbygrace, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. CharismaticLady

    CharismaticLady Well-Known Member

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    I've thought about that too. Great minds....:D
     
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    ah, what things are we talking about again?

    anyway, someone who has left the world, i guess, which is not the earth

    but fwiw i think you are invoking exactly why The Rev was written as it was; "who would want to?" or iow our fears about tomorrow are anticipated and played upon, if we are still in the world, reading The Rev with Two Eyes, and divining what may happen tomorrow from it
    hard to do not fear when reading The Rev, huh. Fwiw i suggest that a reader's responses reveal where their heart is; the "world" is passing away, yes? So, if you are in the world, you will naturally imo react in fear to The Rev. I guess this is maybe not that pleasant to read, and i dont mean to say i dont get it ok, but i would examine the emotions engendered by reading The Rev, and disregard the divining that ppl bring to it entirely, or at the least note that they are always divining from fear.
     
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    stunnedbygrace Well-Known Member

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    Wars, nation against nation, earthquakes, famine, pestilence, fearful sights and signs in the heavens, Jerusalem surrounded by armies, for those are the days of vengeance, 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    so you say, and yet US deliberately destroyed the water infrastructure in Libya, first thing, and we cause massive famines along the way, all while marrying and giving in marriage? which is not about two ppl in a wedding anyway, surely
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    so iow have no fear does not apply to them, see, these are not ppl who have no fear. You fear tomorrow but we are in something like seven wars, right now?
     
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    stunnedbygrace Well-Known Member

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    I think it will all be worldwide, not just in certain places. That is what I read.
     
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    stunnedbygrace Well-Known Member

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    I'm not following...
     
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    that is what you read bc that is what John wanted (you) to read, i suggest, this conflating "world" with "world-wide." See we are told to leave the world, the world is passing away, and then we go read The Rev while we're still in the world and natch get all plexed about tomorrow, bc we are still in fear.
    well, do you read The Rev and have fear about the state of the world tomorrow or no, sbg?

    Another way to ask this is prolly "do you believe the world was better yesterday than it is today?"
    and answer it honestly; yes, of course you do right? What person does not?
    btw that stuff has all already happened, prolly at least twice, and more like a hundred times i bet
    Trump has done more to surround Jerusalem with armies in the last year or two than any other person i can think of? Besides the Romans (who are surely representative anyway) i mean
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    ask someone what their reaction to The Rev is, and you will get where their heart is focussed, where they are "coming from" if you will, Keraz comes to mind here, and the eye is the lamp of the body. And i dont mean "keraz is bad" ok, just that it is obvious he is very afraid of tomorrow, and divining from the rev all over the place, like most ppl who ID as "Christian?"

    so, imo we arm ourselves bc we are in fear, and then shoot at anyone alien approaching, out of fear, and then wonder why we have a perspective of the world deteriorating into chaos? Can you imagine a worse fate than being dressed in a thobe and ghutrah (mideast menswear iow) and commanded to knock on some Christian's door and attempt to engage him?

    yet when i ask for a single instance of some Christian having been offended by one of the many Muslims that already surround them, i get crickets, see, or a link to someone else's story? Which makes everyone think i love Muslims more or something, rather than what they should be thinking, bc i stay as far away from Muslims as i can, too, i am not a Muslim, and Muslims have the same problems we do, more or less, and im sure not interested in compounding them by moving boundary stones and allowing them into our country, etc. Pure suicide imo.

    so, while i didnt mean to go there this am, we, US, bomb ppl, Muslims, out of their countries and back to the stone age usually so we can steal their oil like we're doing in Libya and Syria right now, and then we wonder why we feel like the world was better yesterday than it is today, and why the world, our world, is ending? And then we shrug our shoulders and get our concealed carry permits and we go and fill up our tanks with the heavily subsidized gas that we paid for with our sons and daughters, while our own NatGas is sold to the highest bidder, in the largest two commodity theft schemes on the planet, imo. Hell, you should be in fear imo, i fear for you! I have more respect for ppl buying crack tbh

    a corrollary would be those who fear the dollar crashing--tomorrow, of course--when it has already crashed over 99%, and bread that cost ten cents when i was a child now costs two dollars, and i am not even old yet
     
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    have no fear is not meant for them then, right

    havent you been hearing how the world is going to end since you were a little kid?
    fear sells, yeh? Dont be a buyer imo
     
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    Not true. You have to 'read the pre-trib rapture' doctrine into... the Rev.19 Scripture in order to come up with that. It's obvious you haven't really studied what the first part of Revelation 19 says.

    The following time is revealed to be after... the tribulation when Jesus has already returned to judge and destroy the "great whore".

    Rev 19:1-9
    19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, 'Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
    2 For true and righteous are His judgments: for He hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.

    3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

    That part in red doesn't happen until Jesus' 2nd coming to avenge His saints, ending this present world. And that means His coming is after... the great tribulation like He said in Matthew 24:29-31. He returns only ONE time, not several. When the "great whore" of Revelation is judged, that means the end of this world had already ended by this time.



    4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God That sat on the throne, saying, 'Amen; Alleluia.'
    5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, 'Praise our God, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.'
    6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, 'Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.'

    7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.

    But as already shown in the previous Rev.19 verses, God's judgment upon the "great whore" had already happened by this point in time. The marriage supper is for the 1st day of Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20.

    8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
    KJV


    At Revelation 19:11, the timeline John is shown starting at that verse moves back to the day of Jesus' 2nd coming to fight the battle of Armageddon. There's really no way one can reverse that timeline if they read what is actually written there in Rev.19.

    In Summary:
    The Rev.19:1-10 verses' timeline is after... Jesus has returned and destroyed the "great whore" of Revelation.
    The Rev.19:11 forward verse timeline is for the day of Jesus' 2nd coming to judge and destroy the "great whore".
     
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    No. You just have to use some common sense.
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    You're not using common sense. You instead are following a tradition of men (pre-trib rapture theory) and not even simply reading the Revelation 19 Scripture as it is written.

    Rev.19:1-10 = the "great whore" has been judged, God's servants avenged. That means Jesus had already returned to reign with His elect kings and priests, which of course is Millennial timing of Rev.20.

    Rev.19:11-21 is battle of Armageddon timing, the day of Jesus' return with His army to do battle against the "great whore" and avenge His servants.
     
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    pEnoch you have locks, right, you lock stuff up? Q dont even hardly make sense to you huh but see bro you could be having the time of your life k, so what if you came home and some stranger was eating a hamburger out of your kitchen lol "hey, there's condiments on the door" is also an option for you yeh?

    No one aggresses toward defenseless things, it is too disarming.
    "when i defend myself, i am attacked"
    not mine
     
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    Yes, all fall short of the glory of God since the fall, so that passage simply confirms that the damage is done and it is now a matter of recovering what was lost. The passage denotes the times.
     
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    reminds me of a lady I met in Lowes hardware store. she was pulling a pallet full of tall shrubs in the middle of winter. All I did was comment how she looked like she was going home to do some work. Then she proceeded to say how much she hated her neighbor and the woman coming over all the time to borrow things. How she doesn’t trust the lady and thought of putting up a tall fence to keep them out. But decided to try planting a fence of trees first. She was bitter and intimidating ....so much I should have said but could only get out “the trees are not going to work.”
     
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    I dont fear tomorrow...
     
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    This has already happened.
     
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    1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
     
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    And is happening right now...
     
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