GINOLJC, to all.
NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY understands the Trinity.
Not even those guys that write books about it.
We know all the lingo,,,but we still don't really understand it.
When we get to heaven we're all going to be shocked...
God will be laughing at all of us, saying...
You thought you could understand me????
Yeah. He made the universe, matter, space and time...
but we want to understand Him.
First thanks for the reply. second we must disagree with that assessment. and here's why. since you mention matter, space and time. that's your problem. listen, and follow.
the trinitarians big make is a "TIMING" or TIME mistake. God, who is a person, ONE person, a (single person), diversified himself in flesh,
which was to come. he spoke of this in the Past, or in
our beginning. the bible is clear, the mistake in the beginning was due to man's lack of knowledge that God is not limited by time, nor space. he speak of thing in our present, which is our past or future, but is in the same present time for him. other words all time is
one time for God. supportive scripture. Romans 4:17 "(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead,
and calleth those things which be not as though they were". there is the trinitarians time mistake. God had already made made Abraham a Father, which was to come. "have made" in verse 17 is a past tense designation, from a future point of view, that was spoken to Abraham in his present TIME. notice God didn't say, "I has made" you, no, "I have made" you. meaning that it is done
but waiting to happen. this is the keys to prophecy. example, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". ok who is the "US" here in the verse? NOT the people in Isaiah
time, no, the People in the "TIME" this happen. that's why the Lord Jesus and his apostle alway woud say, "IT IS WRITTEN". for what was written afore
time, afore
time, afore
time, is for our learning, (Romans 15:4). another example, Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let
us make man in
our image,
after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth". who is the "US" here, and the "OUR"? God, himself diversified/shared in flesh which was to come, in (TIME). Matthew 1:23 "Behold,
a virgin shall be with child,
and shall bring forth a son, and
they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us". did one NOTICE all the "Shall", which is a future tense designation. ok, if God is with us, how? answer, by being in the same thing that we're in.... FLESH, a body. STOP, LOOK, and THINK before you cross this road. if God is here with us in flesh, in a body, (see John 2:21), Jesus said this, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven". while God was here on earth, in bodily form speaking to Nicodemus, he God, was in heaven in Spirit form. BINGO. now if one say it was the PERSON of, of, of, God, meaning the "Son", correct, because its the same PERSON, supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and
the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high"
who person? HIS, HIS, HIS, person. not some other person as in a second or third person, but "HIS" person, meaning that it's the SAME PERSON. BINGO again. one have to be blind not to to see this TRUTH. it's the SAME PERSON OF GOD who is on the earth at the SAME TIME and SPACE in HEAVEN. BINGO. Hebrews 1:3 said, "
HIS" person. truth don't lie.
the evil one has deceived you by your lack of KNOWLEDGE of God's omnipresent in time, and space, meaning his ubiquitousness to us in TIME.
PICJAG.