left field theologyI would suggest you do a little more study on the issue, the following blog posts might help shed some light:
The Day of Salvation
The Two Salvation's
Two Phases of the Kingdom
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left field theologyI would suggest you do a little more study on the issue, the following blog posts might help shed some light:
The Day of Salvation
The Two Salvation's
Two Phases of the Kingdom
God is love o merciful forgiving every thing you mentioned to be honest i am still not fully understanding your exact point your trying to make.. the subject is universalism every single person living will be saved . that just dont line up with scripture . luke 16Yes I agree, God is Holy, He is Just, and angry with sin, He hates it...
But He is also Merciful, Forgiving and God is Love.
So how can anyone claim that His Justice is stronger than His Love?
I asked for NT verses where these people pull that belief from , that's all.
I've often wondered how God can demand love from us for our enemies ..., and forgiveness from us...etc...yet you all say that He will not do the same re love and forgiveness.
That is what I was saying...explained as well as I can.
I also wonder why it is that whenever 'the restoration of all things' is mention people get so angry in their posts against it... I have hardly met anyone who will just 'discuss' it calmly.
Thats all.
you have to understand he is calvinist . to be fair to d taylor calvinism has some good points.. but i dont agree with it. i am %100 free will God does give us opportunity to be saved..they say only certain one /divine election are chosen to be saved .for years i discussed this in carm . for some reason i can't get back in.. i butted heads heavy with a theo if you didn't agree with him you was a false teacherWell, since the Old Covenant is null and void, where do you think Christian doctrines come from -- where do you think the doctrine of Christ comes from, except from the NT? So we should dismiss your false conclusion.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (Acts 2:42)
The apostles' doctrine came directly from the Lord Jesus Christ. Not only did He open all the OT Scriptures to them after His resurrection, but He taught them for 40 days after that. Plus Paul received his doctrines directly from Christ after his conversion.
where do they come from???????????I pretty much dismiss anyone who thinks that the doctrines we believe must come out of the NT.
might I suggest that all doctrine originated in the OT.?
Obviously, the Bible does not teach that the unsaved get a free pass into Heaven. A price must be paid.You don't think it would be loving to keep people out of heaven that would invariably disrupt the peace and cause sin to rise again? These people you want in heaven: you do realise they are unconverted right?
This is actually a very ironic statement.Why do some people think that everyone goes to Heaven in the end? Satan, because he is the father of lies.
This is actually a very ironic statement.
The greatest lie that the Devil has going is...
"God is Love and torments people for all of Eternity"
Everyone knows that this is not only a contradiction, but a contradiction that cannot be reconciled.
We see good Christians try and try to reconcile the opposing ideas, but in the end they are just making things worse.
Thus, the end result often times are those very same Christians walking away from the Faith.
I've seen it happen many times. They simply give up.
Lol....okay Peter Pan! Happy thoughts!Happy thoughts... combined with little knowledge of scripture.
Excellent! Very wise words @Helen !Ive always wondered where or when the word "eternal" , became forever and ever . I've done a word study on ages, eon, forever , etc...
It does amaze me how easily humans ( christians) can so glibly say ""He or she is off to hell" ...without even a blink of an eye.
But God is a 'checker of fruit'...and He will be checking , on That Day.
Maybe that is the whole test of our life and faith.....maybe that is the acid test we are all up against... = " Do we love like God did/does.."
I am not sure that when we stand 'alone' before Him , He won't say -
" So you were tested by your heart....and you are found wanting..you did not love like I did, but will to write people off with a flick of the little finger."
I personally am not will to take that chance. I will 'judge' God as righteous and merciful , ready to forgive... I will not risk judge Him a hard and austere man as in the parable.
Just my two cent's
@Willie T
The time is nearing when Christ's ministry in the heavenly sanctuary as our Mediator and intercessor, will close.. He shall then come, not as High Priest, but as King of Kings and Lord of lords to take home those who are His.
KJV Revelation 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
There's that irony again.God is not just love, but wrath too.
What do you get this crackpot idea?
God is love. Justice doesn't overrule love, it harmonises with it. And you seem to equate been
g just with being cruel. Yet God says of us that we should do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with God. Justice is not an immoral attribute that needs love to overcome it... It is a necessary and essential trait of the Godhead to keep order in the universe. If justice was negated or overrule by love, then why did Jesus die?
might I suggest that all doctrine originated in the OT.?
This is actually a very ironic statement.
The greatest lie that the Devil has going is...
"God is Love and torments people for all of Eternity"
Everyone knows that this is not only a contradiction, but a contradiction that cannot be reconciled.
We see good Christians try and try to reconcile the opposing ideas, but in the end they are just making things worse.
Thus, the end result often times are those very same Christians walking away from the Faith.
I've seen it happen many times. They simply give up.
im not really sure what the post is about .i have seen read so many things i have no idea . i would be so happy to just see plain wordsI have never called myself a universalist ...others have called me that.
They seem to think that they know better than I what I believe, and what I don't
both are the same we are saints and being in christ makes us righteoussaints will rule over the righteous