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But you do have leaders who claim to be anointed to speak for God, standing in place of Christ...
No – JESUS makes this claim for them:

Matt. 16:19, Matt. 18:18

I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Luke 10:16

Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

STUDY your Bible, Einstein.
You might learn something . .

then they teach things that are not of God, that are not biblical such as necromancy (witchcraft) and praying to / worshiping Jesus' momma
As usual – you’ve stuck both of your feet in your mouth again.
I hate to point out the stupidity of your posts – but stupid IS as stupid DOES . . .

You have absolutely NO clue as to what constitutes “necromancy”, so you really should stop embarrassing yourself.

As for “worshipping” Mary – can you show me where this is taught in the Catechism?
I didn’t think so, sparky . . .

That's a good one... sounds like today's comedy hour has begun!
I didn’t think you’d be able to point to a SINGLE false doctrine – and I was right . . .
I'm not stopping catholics from hanging out with other catholics... ya'll go hang out and drink yo wine and eat yo crackers all you want. It's not a problem for me as I won't be joining your cult View attachment 41642

I have family members that have converted to your cult and they are now nuts! View attachment 41643
GOOD for them.
Maybe they’re rub off on you . . .
 
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If it weren't for God's Word telling us to obey the laws of man for the sake of the Lord.... YES, they should be burned down!

Christians wouldn't do this as it is breaking the law, but non-believers doing it would be great!

Because... they are sending people to hell and in the end the Lord Jesus is going to destroy all these fake "churches"
And if it weren't for God's Catholic Church - YOU wouldn't even have a Bible, son.

And where do Jesus or the Apostles teach that we are to burn down rival churches?
Can you show me the verse?
 

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STUDY your Bible, Einstein.
You might learn something . .

I've been studying for several decades now... and learned that catholicism is false doctrine! agree.gif

I'm not going to become an idolator to make the catholic peoples happy. disagree.gif



stupid IS as stupid DOES . . .

That's how the catholic roll YO exit_stage_right.gif
I noticed yesterday they all put dirt on their forehead as though that pleases the Lord some how smile-grin12.gif


Maybe they’re rub off on you . . .

No, I've been inoculated by the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ against doctrines of demons!

You can gaslight some of the people some of the time... but you can't gaslight all the people all the time crazy.gif
 

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I've been studying for several decades now... and learned that catholicism is false doctrine!
And yet – you can’t point to a SINGLE false doctrine after all of these posts . . .
I'm not going to become an idolator to make the catholic peoples happy.
You wouldn’t be making Catholics happy. We condemn idolatry.
That's how the catholic roll YO
I noticed yesterday they all put dirt on their forehead as though that pleases the Lord some how
Another idiotic comment . . .

We don’t put dirt on our foreheads, Einstein. They are ashes - and they symbolize our mortality and humility before the Lord.

YOU should try being humble before God.
Of course - you’d have to understand Scripture be able to do that . . .

No, I've been inoculated by the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ against doctrines of demons!

You can gaslight some of the people some of the time... but you can't gaslight all the people all the time View attachment 41674
But I can point out your complete and utter ignorance ALL of the time . . .
 
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you can’t point to a SINGLE false doctrine after all of these posts . . .

I mentioned idolatry... I know you people think it's OK to idolize mary but it's actually sinful behavior.


We condemn idolatry.

Actually catholics embrace idolatry


We don’t put dirt on our foreheads, Einstein. They are ashes - and they symbolize our mortality and humility before the Lord.

Epic FAILURE because it does nothing to make anybody humble before the Lord.

It's not biblical at all, it doesn't impress the Lord at all, and it's nothing more than an empty tradition that is meaningless before the Lord.

Neither does giving up stuff for lent... none of this is biblical. disagree.gif


But I can point out your complete and utter ignorance ALL of the time . . .
You... are a legend in your own mind. Congrats! congrats.gif

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I mentioned idolatry... I know you people think it's OK to idolize mary but it's actually sinful behavior.
And as I already educated you – idolatry is condemned by God and His Church.

Catechism of the Catholic Church:
2113 Idolatry not only refers to false pagan worship. It remains a constant temptation to faith. Idolatry consists in divinizing what is not God. Man commits idolatry whenever he honors and reveres a creature in place of God, whether this be gods or demons (for example, satanism), power, pleasure, race, ancestors, the state, money, etc. Jesus says, "You cannot serve God and mammon." Many martyrs died for not adoring "the Beast" refusing even to simulate such worship. Idolatry rejects the unique Lordship of God; it is therefore incompatible with communion with God.


Maybe YOU should stop violating God’s Commandment against bearing FALSE witness . . .
Actually catholics embrace idolatry
Actually, Catholics don’t.
But, lying anti-Catholics like YOU continue to falsely accuse them of it . . .
Epic FAILURE because it does nothing to make anybody humble before the Lord.

It's not biblical at all, it doesn't impress the Lord at all, and it's nothing more than an empty tradition that is meaningless before the Lord.

Neither does giving up stuff for lent... none of this is biblical.
WRONG, my Biblically-illiterate friend.

The prayer said over the recipient of the ashes is straight from Scripture:
Gen. 3:19

By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are

and to dust you will return.”

Your knowledge of Scripture is as unimpressive as your familiarity with Catholic doctrine . . .
James 4:6

"God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."

Luke 14:11

"For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."

Prov. 22:4

"By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life."

James 4:10
"Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up."


Don’t you ever tire of being embarrassed?
 
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Maybe YOU should stop violating God’s Commandment against bearing FALSE witness . . .

Catholics pray to, worship (venerate) and otherwise talk to mary.

This is a well known fact taught by many catholic churches in their online teachings and videos so this is not false witness at all.

Just mo shuck-n-jive double speak by the catholic peoples who claim "we don't worship mary" and then they turn around and pray the ungodly, unbiblical rosary clueless-doh.gif

But, if one is catholic, they can do all the sin they wanted and afterward swing by the priests crib and do a few hail marys, throw a few bucks in the offering plate and all their sins would be absolved... or so the catholic church claims!

Jesus Christ... is the ONLY mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5), mary is no longer even involved
 
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Catholics pray to, worship (venerate) and otherwise talk to mary.

This is a well known fact taught by many catholic churches in their online teachings and videos so this is not false witness at all.

Just mo shuck-n-jive double speak by the catholic peoples who claim "we don't worship mary" and then they turn around and pray the ungodly, unbiblical rosary View attachment 41698

But, if one is catholic, they can do all the sin they wanted and afterward swing by the priests crib and do a few hail marys, throw a few bucks in the offering plate and all their sins would be absolved... or so the catholic church claims!

Jesus Christ... is the ONLY mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5), mary is no longer even involved

Here's an interesting video by an ex catholic that will help you understand the error of catholic doctrine.

edited by me
 
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LENT’S COUNTERCULTURAL MESSAGE​

Bill Donohue
The Lenten message could not be more countercultural. In a society that prizes self-indulgence—we can’t have enough money, drugs and sex—it is difficult to understand, much less appreciate, what Lent stands for: penance, forgiveness and self-denial. The latter, in particular, is seen by our elites as repulsive.

If there is one person who hated self-denial—he said so explicitly—it was the man who helped secularize, and sexually engineer, our society. His name was Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy.

The magazine, which Hefner founded in 1953, was not the most corrupting aspect of his work. It was his “Playboy Philosophy.” Launched in December 1962, it gave the ensuing sexual revolution an ideological springboard. He offered several installments, reaching millions of men, an audience no cultural Marxist or feminist liberator could ever command.

“The Playboy Philosophy” was adamant in contending that the individual is “the all important element in society.” From a Catholic perspective, this is absurd. It is the family, not the individual, that is “the all important element in society.” But it would have been inconceivable for a man like Hefner to believe this. Indeed, he harbored a particular antipathy for Catholicism.

Similarly, “The Playboy Philosophy” maintained that “the primary goal of society should be individual happiness.” Predictably, happiness was defined as pleasure, not joy. “Happiness and pleasure are mental and physical states of being and society should emphasize the positive aspects of both.” It would be hard to make a more anti-Christian philosophical statement.

Self-discipline, perseverance, and personal responsibility—what I call the “vital virtues”—are what Hefner disparaged. All require a measure of restraint, a property “The Playboy Philosophy” abhorred. In fact, it treated selflessness as a sin. “We oppose the tendency to meaningless selflessness in our present society”; he singled out self-sacrifice and self-denial for condemnation.

Hefner’s obsession with satisfying our individual primordial appetites did not allow him to appreciate selflessness as a virtue, one that is best expressed when we sacrifice for the good of others. Mother Teresa exemplified this virtue.

Mother Teresa is a great Lenten role model, taking her cues from Jesus, who died on the Cross for our salvation. She could not have comforted the sick and dying, caring for outcastes like lepers, without practicing self-denial. Absent self-denial, selflessness is impossible.
And then there is Hefner. As I recount in The War on Virtue: How the Ruling Class is Killing the American Dream, he practiced what he preached.

He was an equal-opportunity predator who had sex with men, women, and dogs. He was accused of raping multiple women. If he got a gal pregnant, he arranged for an abortion. Like many men who are addicted to pornography and live a promiscuous lifestyle, Hefner was unable to get aroused without partaking in new experiences, some of which were sickening, to put it mildly. He provided girlfriends with drugs to endure constant orgies that he watched voyeuristically. Further, he engaged in acts of bestiality and forced others to do the same.
Admittedly, Hefner is an extreme example of what happens when self-denial is trashed. But his effect on the culture, via “The Playboy Philosophy,” has proven to be lasting and destructive.

Penance, forgiveness and self-denial are not only good for those individuals who observe Lent, their exercise is good for society. We need more Lenten observances, not less of them.
source
 

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Q: Is there a biblical basis for abstaining from meat as a sign of repentance?

A:
Yes. The book of Daniel states:

"In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia . . . 'I, Daniel, mourned for three weeks. I ate no choice food; no meat or wine touched my lips; and I used no lotions at all until the three weeks were over.'" (Daniel 10:1-3)
Q: Isn't abstaining from meat one of the "doctrines of demons" Paul warned about in 1 Timothy 4:1-5?

A: Short answer:
Not unless Daniel was practicing a doctrine of demons.

Long answer: When Paul warned of those who "forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods" he has in mind people with the Manichean belief that sex is wrong and certain foods, like meat, are intrinsically immoral. (Thus the spiritual ideal for many modern New Agers is a celibate vegetarian, as in the Eastern religions.)

We know that Paul has in mind those who teach sex and certain foods are intrinsically immoral because he tells us that these are "foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer" (1 Tim. 4:3b-5).

Sex and all kinds of food are good things (which is why the Catholic Church has marriage for a sacrament and heartily recommends the practice eating to its members), and this is precisely why it is fitting for them to be given up as part of a spiritual discipline. Thus Daniel gave up meat (as well as wine, another symbol of rejoicing) and Paul endorses the practice of temporary celibacy to engage in a special spiritual discipline of increased prayer (1 Corinthians 7:5). By giving up good things and denying them to ourselves we encourage an attitude of humility, free ourselves from dependence on them, cultivate the spiritual discipline of being willing to make personal sacrifices, and remind ourselves of the importance of spiritual goods over earthly goods.

In fact, if there was an important enough purpose, Paul recommended permanently giving up marriage and meat. Thus he himself was celibate (1 Corinthians 7:8), he recommended the same for ministers (2 Timothy 2:3-4), and he recommended it for the unmarried so they can devote themselves more fully to the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:32-34) unless doing so would subject them to great temptations (1 Cointhians 7:9). Similarly, he recommended giving up meat permanently if it would prevent others from sinning (1 Corinthians 8:13).

Thus Paul certainly had nothing against celibacy or giving up meat -- even on a permanent basis -- so long as one wasn't saying that these things are intrinsically evil, which is what he was condemning the "doctrines of demons" passage.

Since the Catholic Church only requires abstinence from meat on a temporary basis, it clearly does not regard meat is immoral. Instead, it regards it as the giving up of a good thing (which in less economically developed regions -- including the whole world until very recently -- was expensive and thus eaten at festive occasions, making it a sign of rejoicing) to attain a spiritual goal.
 

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I've been studying for several decades now... and learned that catholicism is false doctrine! View attachment 41672

I'm not going to become an idolator to make the catholic peoples happy. View attachment 41675





That's how the catholic roll YO View attachment 41673
I noticed yesterday they all put dirt on their forehead as though that pleases the Lord some how View attachment 41676




No, I've been inoculated by the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ against doctrines of demons!

You can gaslight some of the people some of the time... but you can't gaslight all the people all the time View attachment 41674
Then, I would suggest you've studied the wrong information. As the late Bishop Fulton Sheen once said, there aren't 100 people that hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they mistakenly think it is. This is not something new, though. Jesus was misunderstood and had lies told about Him, too. Should we expect that His Body, the Church, would be treated any better?
 

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Then, I would suggest you've studied the wrong information. As the late Bishop Fulton Sheen once said, there aren't 100 people that hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they mistakenly think it is. This is not something new, though. Jesus was misunderstood and had lies told about Him, too. Should we expect that His Body, the Church, would be treated any better?

Matthew 5:10-12

New King James Version​

10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Read full chapter

Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History

 

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Answering Anti-Catholic Myths About Lent

Pretty funny... nothing in the New Testament teaches Christians to observe "lent"

This is nothing more than meaningless catholic tradition that has nothing to do with the Lord.


Is there a biblical basis for abstaining from meat as a sign of repentance?

Teaching forbidding to marry and to abstain from meats... is a doctrine of demons:

1 Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.


Isn't abstaining from meat one of the "doctrines of demons" Paul warned about in 1 Timothy 4:1-5?

A: Short answer:
Not unless Daniel was practicing a doctrine of demons.

You lack understanding between the difference in the old covenant (which Jesus took away) and the New Covenant (that Jesus established)

Those seeking to be justified by the old testament law have fallen from grace and the work Jesus did is no longer applicable unto them. In other words, you are no longer saved and are back on the highway to hell just like the Galatians that had been bewitched (Galatians 3:1) to follow a different gospel.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.


And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


You should REPENT from these false doctrines and follow Jesus Christ rather than old testament doctrine.

Galatians 3:11
No man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Galatians 5:4

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


Then, I would suggest you've studied the wrong information

The Word of God... does not teach catholicism

One cannot get to heaven by following false catholic doctrine.

When you croak someday you'll find out...
 

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Pretty funny... nothing in the New Testament teaches Christians to observe "lent"

This is nothing more than meaningless catholic tradition that has nothing to do with the Lord.
And the very SAME can be said of your Protestant doctrines and traditions . . .

- Sola Scriptura
- Sola Fide
- A Pre-Trib “Rapture”
- Accepting Christ as personal Lord and Savior
- Once saved, always saved


Does that mean that YOU’RE part of a “cult”, Einstein??

Teaching forbidding to marry and to abstain from meats... is a doctrine of demons:

1 Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
And anybody with a SHRED of intelligence knows that Paul was writing here about the Gnostic heretics in the 1st century.

The Gnostics condemned all worldly possessions, they forbade marriage and the eating of meat. The Catholic Church does NONE of these things.
However, from the depts of your pathetic ignoranceYOU conflate matters of discipline like Lenten abstinence and priestly celibacy as “doctrine”.

Do your homework . . .


You lack understanding between the difference in the old covenant (which Jesus took away) and the New Covenant (that Jesus established)

Those seeking to be justified by the old testament law have fallen from grace and the work Jesus did is no longer applicable unto them. In other words, you are no longer saved and are back on the highway to hell just like the Galatians that had been bewitched (Galatians 3:1) to follow a different gospel.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.


And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


You should REPENT from these false doctrines and follow Jesus Christ rather than old testament doctrine.

Galatians 3:11
No man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Galatians 5:4

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

The Word of God... does not teach catholicism
One cannot get to heaven by following false catholic doctrine.
When you croak someday you'll find out...
Time for another Bible Lesson, son . . .

Paulo not only practices fasting, abstinence and mortification of the flesh – re RECOMMENDED it as a way to be closer to God.

Romans 8:13; (see also Col. 3:5, and Gal. 5:24).
"If you live after the flesh, you shall die, but if through the spirit you mortify the deeds of the flesh, you shall live."

1 Cor. 9:27
I drive my body and train it,
for fear that after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified”.


As for the “changing” of the Priesthood – you are again showing your ignorance . . .

In the Old Testament, there were three levels of Priests:
- The High Priest (Lev. 16, Haggai 1:12-14 S).
- The Levitical/Ministerial Priesthood (Lev. 16).
- The rest of the people were a General priesthood of believers (Exod. 19:6).

In the New Testament, there are also three levels of Priests:
- Jesus, our High Priest (1 Tim. 2:5, Heb. 7:22-25)
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The Ministerial Priests (James 5:14-15)
-
The General priesthood of all Christians (1 Peter 2:5-9).

Just as with all New Testament fulfillments, the fulfillment is always more glorious than the Old Testament type.

YOUR problem, as usual is that you don’t do your
Bible . . .
 

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Pretty funny... nothing in the New Testament teaches Christians to observe "lent"

This is nothing more than meaningless catholic tradition that has nothing to do with the Lord.




Teaching forbidding to marry and to abstain from meats... is a doctrine of demons:

1 Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.




You lack understanding between the difference in the old covenant (which Jesus took away) and the New Covenant (that Jesus established)

Those seeking to be justified by the old testament law have fallen from grace and the work Jesus did is no longer applicable unto them. In other words, you are no longer saved and are back on the highway to hell just like the Galatians that had been bewitched (Galatians 3:1) to follow a different gospel.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.


And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


You should REPENT from these false doctrines and follow Jesus Christ rather than old testament doctrine.

Galatians 3:11
No man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Galatians 5:4

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.




The Word of God... does not teach catholicism

One cannot get to heaven by following false catholic doctrine.

When you croak someday you'll find out...
The Word of God is not a book, but a Person, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church, the ONLY Church for the first 1000 years of Christianity.

If you personally interpret Scripture to mean ANYTHING other than what the original authors intended, then you are in error. ONLY the Catholic Church has the original teachings of Christ in its teaching.

Jesus didn't write a book to spread His truths by personal interpretation. In fact, the vast, vast majority of humanity was illiterate until the most recent 100 years or so of history. That approach would have excluded all but a tiny percentage of humanity. Jesus founded a (ONE) Church, trained Apostles with the fullness of Divine Revelation, and commanded them to go forth and teach and preach (ORALLY). They did so, and passed on this fullness to their successors, the bishops, who have done likewise now for about 2000 years. Eventually, SOME of what they taught orally was written down, and in the late 4th century, the Catholic Church decided which of these writings were worthy of being called Scripture. They chose the 27 books that we all refer to now as the New Testament.

IF there were any validity to your approach, there would be ONE Protestant denomination with ONE coherent set of doctrines. The opposite is true. We have literally tens of thousands of man-made, doctrinally disagreeing/contradicting Protestant denominations, all based on some individual's personal interpretation of Scripture, all in the last 500 years. That cannot possibly be the grounding for the fullness of faith that Christ desires.

And, yes, we will indeed find out when we die. I fully agree.
 

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Does that mean that YOU’RE part of a “cult”, Einstein??

You worship mary with that mouth? laughing3.gif


And anybody with a SHRED of intelligence knows that Paul was writing here about the Gnostic heretics

Catholisicsm is gnostic heresy!


Do your homework . . .

Pull your head out of your hinder quarters and wake up homie before it's too late for you!


Time for another Bible Lesson, son . . .

I'm not yo alter boy... I don't swing that way!



If you personally interpret Scripture to mean ANYTHING other than what the original authors intended, then you are in error

OK, so show me where Jesus said Christians need to pray to His momma.. or get His momma to pray for you instead of praying directly to the Father in Jesus Name which is what Jesus actually said (John 16:23, John 14:13, etc)

Let's start with the praying to mary heresy that you have NO scripture for and see how you do.
Let's see what kind of tall tails you spin to make it sound OK to talk to those that are physically dead and are no longer on this earth thru demon spirits

Catholics practice necromancy which is witchcraft and as such they are following doctrines of demons and are obviously oblivious to this fact.
 

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You worship mary with that mouth? View attachment 41774




Catholisicsm is gnostic heresy!




Pull your head out of your hinder quarters and wake up homie before it's too late for you!




I'm not yo alter boy... I don't swing that way!





OK, so show me where Jesus said Christians need to pray to His momma.. or get His momma to pray for you instead of praying directly to the Father in Jesus Name which is what Jesus actually said (John 16:23, John 14:13, etc)

Let's start with the praying to mary heresy that you have NO scripture for and see how you do.
Let's see what kind of tall tails you spin to make it sound OK to talk to those that are physically dead and are no longer on this earth thru demon spirits

Catholics practice necromancy which is witchcraft and as such they are following doctrines of demons and are obviously oblivious to this fact.
Clearly, you don't know Scripture very well. Scripture shows an awareness that we can pray for the dead (2 Macc. 12:42 and, quite possibly, 2 Tim. 1:18) and an awareness that those in heaven intercede for the living (2 Macc. 15:12, 14; Matt. 18:10; Rev. 5:8, 8:3–4).

With regard to Mary, we do find references to personal prayer in Acts and the epistles, but there is a good reason they, too, wouldn’t include Marian prayers: Mary was probably still alive. According to the Protoevangelium of James (chapters 8–9), Mary was betrothed to Joseph when she was twelve. This was a common age for girls to be married (boys typically married in their teens). The Talmud describes the onset of puberty as the preferred time for a daughter to be married (b. Sanhedrin 76a-b).

If Mary was thirteen when Jesus was born, then, based on the traditional date of his birth in 3–2 B.C., Mary would have been born around 15 B.C. She would be seventy in A.D. 55 and eighty in 65. Acts was written in A.D. 60, and the New Testament epistles were written between the late 40s and the mid-60s. It is thus quite possible that Mary had not reached the end of her earthly life.

Biblical texts like Deut. 18:10-11 and Isaiah 19:3—each of which condemns necromancy—are employed to say “communication with the dead” is condemned absolutely. Actually, what is being condemned in these texts from Deuteronomy and Isaiah is conjuring up the dead through wizards and mediums, not praying to saints. The Church has always condemned this. Mediums attempt to conjure up spirits and manipulate the spiritual realm at will. This is categorically different from Christians asking for the intercession of their brothers and sisters in Christ. We do not “conjure up” or manipulate anything or anyone. True prayer—whether to God or the angels and saints—changes the pray-er, not the pray-ee.

I don't know who has told you all these anti-Catholic lies, but I would encourage you to seek another source for what the Catholic Church teaches and what Catholics actually believe.
 

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Clearly, you don't know Scripture very well.

You are posting extra biblical garbage which are not even part of God's canon... so anyway, you go enjoy the heresy that is catholisicm and when you get to your eternal place of torment you cannot say you were not warned! disagree.gif


I don't know who has told you all these anti-Catholic lies, but I would encourage you to seek another source for what the Catholic Church teaches and what Catholics actually believe.

I don't follow heresy... I leave that up to the catholics.

There are lots of ex catholics that have sounded the alarm about heretical catholic doctrine...

 
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You are posting extra biblical garbage which are not even part of God's canon... so anyway, you go enjoy the heresy that is catholisicm and when you get to your eternal place of torment you cannot say you were not warned! View attachment 41775
LOL. Who's being extrabibilical? NOWHERE in the Bible does it say EVERYTHING we are to know is IN the Bible. In fact, it says the opposite!
John 21:25 says that NOT everything Jesus did and taught is IN the Bible. Matt. 28:20 has Jesus commanding the Apostles to teach ALL that He had taught them. There's a gap, clearly. If they are to teach ALL, but ALL is not in Scripture, where's the part they are to teach that's not IN Scripture? St. Paul tells us in 2 Thes. 2:15, where he puts Oral Tradition (oral teaching) on the same level of authority as Written Tradition (Scripture). And, with regard to the New Testament, Oral Tradition preceded the New Testament in writing. The New Testament came FROM Oral Tradition.

If Scripture says that not everything is IN Scripture, how can you whine about "extrabiblical" resources, especially since the New Testament comes FROM a major "extrabibilical" resource?