shnarkle,
I think one of the issues here is that the world in the 1st century is very different than the one we have today. Yes, people shared common things, but this was also a people who lived hand to mouth each day and many who were thrown out of the synagogue for their faith were destitute.
Well, all I can say is it must be nice living in your world because the world I live in is in a sick mess. There are way too many people going hungry in a first world country like the US alone.
Moreover, its likely describing small household communities who are sharing with each other to help those who are hungry and without clothes to get by...
Yep, today we got the megachurches, and God knows those places don't build themselves, and the upkeep for one of those places ain't cheap either. God needs his house though, don't he?
(there was no welfare or community services for these people...especially if they were cut off from the local synagogue).
Yeah, welfare is a godsend ain't it? I have a friend that hasn't had power in her house in years, and if it weren't for the fact that she lives in a state that allows for homesteading, she'd be out on the street for not paying her property taxes.
Moreover, these narratives are describing early church procedures and are not prescribing that any one of these things are essential.
I'm sorry, but you're neglecting to look at the fact that what the church is doing is prescribed by Christ himself in more than a few passages from your own bible.
This is not a new law being penned by Luke.
No, there is truly nothing new under the sun. It's God's will to treat others as ourselves. Are you living on the street; going hungry?
We were set free from Law.
You were set free from the law of sin, not God's law. Those who think helping the poor is a burden have no idea what it means to see the kingdom.
If one church-goer drives a 1990 Volvo and another drives a 2017 Mustang, it doesn't mean the guy with the Mustang should sell it and the guy with the Volvo and the Mustang should both sell them and buy Chevy's with the evenly dispersed funds.
No, it means they should sell both vehicles and give the money to the poor.
Its just basically saying that true believers care for those in their midst who are struggling and can't put food on the table or clothes on their back...even if the other believer only has a slight amount more than the first...they didn't allow anyone to be naked or hungry.
The church isn't supposed to just take care of their own. They're supposed to take care of anyone regardless of whether they're a believer or not.
This is not a recipe for communism or communal living. Rather, it is just a vivid example of how very poor and persecuted early believers loved each other in very sacrificial ways. It is a powerful reminder to us and those who do have extra money (which I am sure we all do if we are writing this on a computer) that we should be diligent about caring for the poor, and especially looking out for other Christians who are struggling to make ends meet.
This is pathetic. Jesus' parable of the good scumbag comes to mind. Even the scumbag helped a perfect stranger who the high and mighty couldn't be bothered with as they weren't especially Christians. Sound familiar?
Also, the situation with the rich young ruler had to do with Jesus confronting this person's greed and security blanket. If Jesus walked into your church and told you to sell your house and follow him, yeah...you should do that.
He told his disciples to do it; they did it.
Its not saying that anyone who wants to be a Christian must be flat broke or should strive to be so.
No, it's about learning to walk by faith not by one's own visible means of support. It means that there's something so much greater awaiting those who forsake themselves and give all to the poor. It's about the miracle of receiving the kingdom rather than serving mammon.
There are other Scriptures that show us clearly that there were wealthy Christians and that the real issue is not whether or not a person has money, but does money have them.
And we all know that we don't need to prove anything to anyone don't we? Money doesn't have us, cause we've got money. Money will leave us desolate; good thing it don't mean nothing to us, huh?
I agree that greed is more prevalent in the church and in each of our lives than it should be and we should repent of it. Yet we need to be very cautious about taking such narratives and making new laws about vows of poverty lest we falsely create a new Gospel that is based on our levels of sacrifice and giving rather than Christ's.
I'm not making any new laws, and I'm certainly not suggesting that one needs to take a vow of poverty. Why should Christ have all the fun though? He's calling us to experience God's provision as well, for some reason this just doesn't look all that appealing though; we convict ourselves of our own lack of faith. We spotlight that we're not really Christians.
Christians are, for the most part; useless when it comes to Christ's teaching.
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures...etc,"
Jesus isn't suggesting that it's okay to lay up for yourselves a bunch of junk that you don't care about. A whole bunch of junk that thieves might want to steal, or even junk that they don't want to steal. Do you have a bunch of nice junk that you don't care about? Why? If it means nothing to you, why have you got it in the first place? Is it worthless? Is it something that you can't get anything for it?
"No man can serve two masers: for either he will hate the one, and serve the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." Who's your boss? Who do you work for?
" take no thought,..." When Jesus came and said to follow him, the gospel narratives proclaim that they dropped what they were doing and immediately followed him. They walked away from their jobs. So this is not only describing what they did, but Jesus is plainly instructing the same thing.
The disciples laid their money at the feet of the apostles. They lived together 24/7 proclaiming their lifestyle as an illustration of the gospel in action. Do you believe that your Father will feed and clothe you if you take no further thought except to build his kingdom instead? If you think that's a tough one, the resurrection isn't going to be any easier.
"or whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my teachings, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory" Luke 9:26
You don't honestly believe in a world where we all work for free and God takes care of our every need, do you? That couldn't be referring to anything we're supposed to do now could it? No, that's nonsense. We'd look like complete fools if we were to indulge in such a preposterous idea, wouldn't we?
Let's look at a word I'll put in caps: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Does that include you? Do you think that you could be included with "whosoever"?
What about in this verse? "So likewise, WHOSOEVER he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:33
No, that whosoever only refers to the rich young ruler, right?
"And he said unto his DISCIPLES, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on...O ye of little faith? 29 And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind... Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. 30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. 31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God;"
He taught this to the Pharisees as well (Luke 11:41) They didn't listen to him, are you suggesting that they're our role models?
He taught it to the multitudes (Luke 14:33), and his disciples taught it to all those who joined the church (Acts 4:32-35)
No, you don't have to forsake, just imagine giving it up. It's enough that you don't really care about all that junk in the first place; keep it. After all, you can't really do God's work without all that stuff, right? God has provided all that money for you, you worked for it; it's yours, right?
How bout' bills? Got any of those? I can't tell you how many good Christians I know who have literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt to pay off. They live in massive Mcmansions, they drive really nice cars, nice everything, and the vast majority of their money is going to pay debt; debt they will be paying for the rest of their lives. This is their idea of God's provision for them. The cost of maintenance alone is insane. One guy I know lost his house because he couldn't pay the taxes anymore. His yearly tax burden was almost as much as what I paid for my house.
God may give back when we let go of it all and walk in faith, but what usually happens is he challenges us to let go of it again and again, not just to experience his miraculous provision, but to shower us with His abundant life. This is what it means to experience God's provision. This is what it means to be a Christian.
Reach out and embrace Christ's message, but if we can't embrace it we need to have the courage to admit that we are not Christians. We are not his disciples; not born again; not filled with the Spirit.
What Christ offers is worth more than everything we all have together; more than everything we've ever had or that this life could ever give all of us. It's worth more than our lives.