That is fine my friend. There is no sense is going back in forth. From my understanding people believe different things about the Bible. They will use scriptures and that single use justify what it means, especially when it comes to these words, Destruction, Wrath of God, Fire, World, Earth, Lake of Fire, (thoughts about what the second death even means), Hell, Hades, Sheol, Grave, paradise, prison, giving up the dead.
All of these things need to be defined by how the word is actually used, and also the context of scripture given should be tried to be compared with the rest of what the Bible says.
You and others still believe people will go to hell now today when they pass away and come to judgment from God. This is a classic understanding of the scriptures, which is known by traditional teaching.
Many people as I have stated do not believe that Jesus even came back, and has had victory over Sin, Death (even the second death), The devil and his Angels, the false prophet, the beast, even Hell was over came because of everything that Lord Jesus Christ had done.
This is great news, and it leaves Revelation 21-22 pictures, spiritual principles to learn from, even principles concerning the flesh.
I do not believe people go to hell because of Jesus. That was used as a place for awhile which is right now done away with forever.
Im not trying to fight or argue or bicker it is just many people don’t understand these things especially concerning eschatology.
It’s so interesting that the Apostle John, wrote what he did in the final two chapters of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, they are for us all to look at and take hold of and think about.
The interesting thing Matt IS:
Scripture is FULL of KNOWLEDGE of DO’s and DON’T’s ....
And when it comes to THE LAW...it is Common Law, to talk ABOUT the Do’s and Dont’s.
When it comes to STATUTES...that is the WRITTEN LAW of DO’s, according to Gods Word and CALLED Positive Law.
When it comes to STATUTES...that which is WRITTEN as Negative LAW’s, IS called; punitive, penal, punishment, curse LAWS, and ARE FOR VIOLATING the DO’ statutes.
IOW......Statutes are Primarily DO this, POSITIVE LAWS.
IOW......Negative Statutes, ARE for punishing violations of positive laws.
The US Federal Govt. was “established” under the SAME Principles and Standards as Scripture.
....POSITIVE STATUTES...according to the Limits of the Constitution.
....NEGATIVE Penal STATUTES...for violation of the Positive Statutes.
AND WHY US Law makers are called CORRUPT?
Because they legislate and enact “fraudulent Positive statutes” ABOVE the Limits of the Constitution.
AND WHY US Laws makers are called CORRUPT?
Because they legislate and enact “fraudulent Negative Penal statutes”, AND punish people based on their “fraudulent Statutes”.
The same things APPLY to Scripture.
All the Do’s and Do’s are revealed. Anyone can talk in general, about what they do, what they believe is okay, why they think a punishment is or is not due them for their beliefs and choices .
Fact IS...NOT everything IN Scripture APPLIES the SAME to every Individual. (That is called dividing the word of truth.)
IF Jim is a man, is a believer, goes to church every Sunday, mows the church yard..........as it stands and applies to him....
He “SHALL BE” saved on the day he physically bodily dies...” IF” he is STILL believing on the day he physically bodily dies.
ONCE he IS saved...He IS saved forever...”OSAS”.
“IF” at any time while alive in his flesh, he stops believing....he has fallen away, and SHALL NOT BE SAVED.
IF Sue is a woman, a Converted believer, never goes to church, does not mow any yards.......as it stands and applies to her...
She “IS SAVED” already bodily crucified with Christ...”Baptized IN Gods Spirit”, Gods Spirit “IN” her...and doesn’t matter what day her body physically dies......SHE IS SAVED forever and FOREVER WITH God and FOREVER Gods is WITH her.
She has become SAVED ONCE...She IS Saved forever...”OSAS”.
She can NEVER “stop believing”. She can NEVER fall away.
She is KEPT IN BELIEF, by the Power of Gods Spirit, “IN” her.