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  1. Earburner

    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    ^ 7[21] And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
    [22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
     
  2. Earburner

    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    How about this simple truth, and not the religious fabrication of it all:
    All life who breathe air are simply breathing Oxygen, of which does give/feeds life to the flesh!!
    Its not all that hard to understand!!
    In case you forgot, Moses who wrote Genesis, was dumb as a rock about the gaseous elements, and simply called it "the breath of life" .
     
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    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    To put it simply, no air/Oxygen, NO LIFE!!
     
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    In OT, would say that was AbsolutelyTrue.
    They had to continually take animals for blood SIN Offering.

    Those IN Christ who accepted Jesus Blood Offering...

    Is in fact Two who Know..
    All knowing, Lord God Almighty
    The Individual

    But then also agree "no other man can Know for sure" who is or isn't Saved.

    1cor 2:
    [11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Air, oxygen, minerals out of the Earth is what a body is made of and the Body requires those things to maintain its body's life.

    Life in a soul is Gods Breath.
    Life in a spirit is Gods Seed.

    Gods Life, wherever He sends it or puts it...does not require oxygen, air, minerals, elements of the Earth to sustain His Life.

    Glory to God,
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    Have some errands...will be back
     
  7. Earburner

    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    No man...is reference to a man's body.

    Gen 2
    [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    What was man, Before he became a living soul?

    A CREATED form, without life?
    A man
    Where did it come from?
    Dust of the earth.
    What is a form with life?
    A Living soul.
    Where did this Life come from?
    Gods breath.
    What is a CREATED form, without Gods life.
    A man.

    No man has gone up to Heaven, except the Form body, of the Son of man, which came down from Heaven.

    Glory to God,
    Taken[/QUOTE]
    Sorry to say, you are still fabricating.

    ASAP, divorce yourself from the "religious reasoning", and simply reorganize yourself to the simple truth that Dust + Oxygen/air = a living soul.
     
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    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    Aka, "common sense" of the natural mind of flesh, aka our brain!! Which definitely needs blood carrying Oxygen, otherwise no thinking will be allowed, because you will faint/pass out.
     
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    What about the book of remembrance ?
    Then he resurrect them back from his memories.
    This must be from the mind of God to remember them.

    Care expound on this, its found in Malachi 3:16

    Would this not be the book of life .
    If some are blotted out then there would be no remembrance of them to bring them back.
    Which would work with the verse - ungodly will not be judged Psalm 1, another word they are gone.
     
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    By you crossing out the truth of our being, as found in the KJV, you are exchanging it for the Religious LIE that "man was given a living soul".

    Unfortunately, most Christians have followed after that religious concoction, and wonder why all other scripture in the NT never seems to make sense, and must always be explained by the other false doctrines of religious fabrication, of which you and many here are forever doing.
    IOWS, you and they are
    "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth". 2 Timothy 3:7
     
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    a book of remembrance was written before him, for them that feared Jehovah, and that thought upon his name.
    There is NO book of remembrance of the UNsaved!!
    Learn that!! And think about the two thieves on the cross! One WAS remembered, but the other WASN'T!

    All who DO NOT HAVE His Holy Spirit of Promise, are NONE of His!! Romans 8:9. Therefore, all of such cannot be resurrected....ever!! They HAVE perished and are become lost, as was described about Judas Iscariot. He did NOT remain to be alive to the day of Pentecost, and did die the death without faith beforehand.
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    Don't you know that "THE" Millenium is fictional work ofReligion??
    You have yet to compare 2 Peter 3:8 with 2 Peter 3:9 of why it is that a thousand years is as a day, and a day is a thousand years. All that is saying is that God has declared an unlimited amount of time of His patience and longsuffering for all to come to repentance.
    [8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
    > WHY? See verse 9
    [9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
    In all of the Bible, 2 Peter 3:8 is the ONLY reference for the description of "a thousand years" in Rev.
    We best find out what it really is, and what's involved, and not what Religion is telling us.

    The symbolic 1000 years Is NOW! Its God's Age of His Grace... NOW!
     
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    So then, we should conclude by you, that all animal life that has in their nostrils the breath of life, have been given living soul??

    Question #1: how did they get a living soul through their nostrils? Did God breathe it into them by His Spirit also, as He did for man?
    If so, then His Spirit is within them also. Is that what you are concluding?

    Question #2 Since God's Spirit is Eternal, are you saying that man has an eternal living soul?
    For if you are, then you must say that is true for animals as well.
    Genesis 7[22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
     
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    ^ Instead of following after all that Religious hoo-ha about an eternal living soul within man, but not in animals, how about that you just simply accept the simple fact that Moses knew nothing of what the breath of life was! He could only describe it to the best of his ability, of which Religion has made it to be a quagmire of "religious speak", that explains nothing of what breathing is, except the inhaling of Oxygen and the exhaling of Carbon Dioxide, aka "air".

    Now, the question remains for all of Religion:
    WHERE DID the Oxygen go, after the lungs exhale Carbon Dioxide? Religion and the religiously abducted refuse to answer, because they do not want to know!
     
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    Only on Judgement Day will we know if I made the grade, or not. God knows exactly where I stand now, and where I will stand in the end. But I, or anyone else, does not know, as it can change in time, for better or for worse.
     
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    No error.

    * BODY formed, from dust outside of the Garden, called man.

    Gen 2
    [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    * After the BODY was Formed...Then God gave a man a Living soul, by God blowing His breath of Life (into is giving) into the man's nostrils.
    A formed body, without ever having a Living soul given it, is neither Alive or DEAD.


    Gen 2
    [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    *Did the Body STOP Being a man? No.
    The Body is a man.
    The Body WITH a Living soul IS an ALIVE man.
    The body That had a living soul IN and now does not have a Living soul IN is a Dead Man.
    The man is now one identity, man, formed body , soul and alive.


    Gen 7
    [7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    There are three "Ands" in verse 7...each a thing unto its own.

    * v-8 notifies, man came out of the dust, outside of the Garden.

    [8] And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

    Apparently before you.
    Read the Script.. the Body is a Form. Is a form, a shape, which IS Visible to mankind...a man can see a Living or dead body.
    You can not see a soul, life from God.
    You can See a body's Life, it's BLOOD.

    Caution on your...QUICK to Judge!

    Gen 7? That's Precise ... not!

    Note again ...blowing...into

    Now note: a dead boy, soul returns to his body...

    1 kings 17:

    [21] And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
    [22] And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived. Living man holding a dead body asking God to revive the dead body, BY putting the dead body's SOUL BACK IN the Body.

    How can a body AND soul be destroyed if they are the same thing?

    Matt 10:
    [28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    this is part of the 7th trumpet message

    Revelation 11:18

    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    To some - they believe the trumpets are given before the millennium.

    How or what or even ----how does this take place ?
    A time of judgment for the righteous or is this the last resurrection ??

    It is believed that the last resurrection is not a total loss for the unjust, that is somebody does get saved.
     
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    Sorry to say, you are still fabricating.

    ASAP, divorce yourself from the "religious reasoning", and simply reorganize yourself to the simple truth that Dust + Oxygen/air = a living soul.[/QUOTE]

    No. God is Life.
    All souls belong to God.
    Body's AND souls AND spirits are different things with different source of Life.
    All three have the same One identity of one man.

    BODY...Life blood
    SOUL...Life Gods Breath
    SPIRIT...Life Gods Seed.

    All body's Will DIE.
    Some will be RAISED in glory, some will be destroyed.
    Some souls Will be Restored and Saved, some destroyed.
    Some spirits, will receive Gods Seed and be born Again, some will remain natural and BE destroyed with its body.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    You rely too much on your brain, when the discussion is about spiritual things.

    God searches a mans heart. What do you think He is looking for?
    It's a mans TRUTH, which is a mans natural spirit.
    God does not search your mind for your truth, [a mans wishy washy ever changing mind...?]
    Uh no.
    READ what God says about a man's Carnal Mind.
    Rom 8:7

    Heb 4:
    [12] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
     
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    Yes Taken, I would agree in a context. If one were to ask me now if I am saved, I would say, 'yes'.
    But, honestly, if you were to ask me if I'll hold out until the end, or before Christ comes back, then I can only say, '...man, I really hope so'.
    At least, as far as I'm concerned anyhow.
    But, according to your point, I think at any given moment, yes, one should be able to confidently, profess what their current standing with Christ is.
    Thanks, good clarification.
     
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