Which major Christian church in the U.S. is closest to the truth?

[bdavidc]

I wouldn't be a Seventh Day Adventist for the past 28 years of i thought there was a better alternative. Not saying my church is perfect, far from it. But as far as biblical teaching is concerned, for me is the closest..

An individual SDA can be a true Christian if he is trusting Christ alone for salvation, not Sabbath keeping, church membership, Ellen White, dietary rules, or any added system. But the SDA system itself is not biblically sound and should not be treated as just another harmless Christian denomination.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Thanks in advance!

In the Bible the church is comprised of those who are sealed by the spirit as born again believers in Christ Jesus.



You'll find a bunch of Christian denominations in the world. And a lot of different versions of God's words too.



But,the teachings of Jesus are eternal and not subject to being dissected through textual variations or denominational fractures.



There are no denominations identified in the Bible.



The closest church to the truth of God in Christ are those who believe in him.Those whom God calls to himself. Those for whom his message,the Gospel,resonates as truth.



You are a sinner who lives by the ways of the world. But,there is another way. A way that leads to peace in the face of strife. Power in the face of conflict and fear.

Reading these verses are a pathway in a nutshell that will help you to find your way. Then,trust God to guide you as the word of truth and salvation.

If you want a brick and mortar church to attend,find one that holds strictly to the Gospel.

Any church that tolerated what God calls sin,such as open homosexuality, performs gay marriages, practices infant baptism, is not a true Gospel church. Nor is any church that leads you to believe you must strive by your personal behaviors to remain in God's grace.

Romans 3:23: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
1 John 1:9: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
Believe in Jesus as your Savior.

John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
Ephesians 2:8: "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God."


Confess your sins,mistakes,a life lived by carnal values. You can confess in a quiet prayer ,or aloud in the privacy of a safe space. You're not bringing your sins to God's attention. God knows you and knew you before the womb.

Rather confession is a type of purge. Purging,releasing,all those things,behaviors,words,acts, that weigh on you as wrong behavior. It sets you free of the regret. And God releases you from their penalties that take a toll on your life now and afterward.

Romans 10:9: "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Revelation 3:20: "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me."
Then,surrender yourself to trust in Jesus. Live your life with his holy spirit guiding your life from inside yourself. That is his seal that makes you eternally irrevocably his new creation in himself.


Galatians 2:20: "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me."

Matthew 7:7: "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you."


Next, I did a search for Bible versions closest to the original message.



Many refer to the New American Standard Version as closest to the original translations of the Greek. The New Testament was originally written in Greek.



As well as recommend the English Standard Version.

The 5 Most Accurate Bible Translations (2026 UPDATED Comparison Guide)

Which Bible is the most accurate? We compare the KJV, ESV, NASB, and more word-for-word, helping you choose the most accurate translation for your study.

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Consider the resources at the link above. And have faith God will lead you to the one he wants to speak to you through.



But never forget.

God will speak to you personally as well. Relax,have faith,and discern when this happens by knowing,God will never lead you to go against his truth

God cannot deny himself.



May God light your path to all things that bring peace,joy,prosperity,and happiness.

Amen.


edited typo

 

[Brakelite]

An individual SDA can be a true Christian if he is trusting Christ alone for salvation, not Sabbath keeping, church membership, Ellen White, dietary rules, or any added system. But the SDA system itself is not biblically sound and should not be treated as just another harmless Christian denomination.

And you have every right to believe that, so long as your belief is founded on truth. Saying any denomination is dodgy or heretical or borderline Christian is real easy. Actually studying adventist doctrine and spending genuine time with prayer and dedicated time (the means by which they were forged in the beginning) and then coming to a conclusion either way, is much more the viable option and your opinion to be taken seriously. Many have come to me with what they believe at biblical arguments that refute Adventists teachings. But the bottom line is they are not at all biblical despite the use of texts they claim are supportive. Their theories really are just made up.
Like the argument that "Christ is my sabbath". That's made up. Despite biblical texts offered, none of them actually teach such a theory. People are being dishonest when they persist in what is functionally not there.

 

[Brakelite]

Closest to what???

Biblical truth and understanding. This is what the thread is about isn't it?

 

[David in NJ]

Biblical truth and understanding. This is what the thread is about isn't it?

The thread is = but religion is not, as the Scripture Says: "Not by works lest any man should boast"

Something to ponder today = Romans 3:4

"let God be true but every man a liar."
As it is written:
“That You may be justified in Your words,
And may overcome when You are judged.”

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Understanding Romans 3:4 in the KJV​

Key Verse​

The phrase "Let God be true, but every man a liar" is found in Romans 3:4 of the King James Version (KJV). The full verse reads:

• KJV: "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

Context and Meaning​

• Paul's Argument: In this passage, the Apostle Paul addresses the faithfulness of God in contrast to human unfaithfulness. He emphasizes that God's truth remains intact regardless of human belief or behavior.
• Scriptural Reference: The latter part of the verse references Psalm 51:4, where David acknowledges God's righteousness in judgment, reinforcing the idea that God is always just and truthful.

Implications​

• Faithfulness of God: This verse asserts that God's integrity is not dependent on human actions. Even if everyone else fails, God remains true to His word and promises.
• Human Fallibility: The statement highlights the tendency of humans to err and the importance of recognizing God's ultimate truth over personal or societal beliefs.

This verse serves as a reminder of the unwavering nature of God's truth in a world where human perspectives can often be flawed.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Very very few can now be found amongst them leaders
that actually even preach the gospel anymore .
They preach both beleif and unbelief .
SO allow me to remind us all of something .
Allowing unbelief to remain upon the false religoins WHO DARN SURE DO deny JESUS THE CHRIST , SON OF GOD
is no way HONORING THE SON .
WERE we not directly commanded by GOD , by CHRIST to HONOR THE SON . And that all who HONOR the SON
HONOR THE FATHER who sent HIM .
SO how can calling GOD A LIAR be honoring GOD .
And here is who calls GOD a liar . brace yourself cause its gonna expose anti christ ecumiencal intefaith for what it is .
WHO is calling GOD a liar . WELL lets open our bible
to the letter of john . THE MAN who wrote more about love than most did .
NOW lets see what this JOHN said .
HE who recieves NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , IS CALLING GOD A LIAR .
notice he didnt say , OH THEY JUST COMING TO GOD IN DIFFERENT ways . HE said A LIAR is what they call GOD .
Now lets see what JESUS said that john also heard .
HE who does recieve the testimony has set to HIS SEAL that GOD IS TRUE .
SO lets sum this up shall we . THOSE WH OBLEIEVE ON JESUS are calling GOD TRUE
and those who do not Believe on him are calling GOD a liar . THEY DO NOT HONOR THE SON
they DISHONOR HIM . JESUS paid a heavy deep price for our sins , DONT YA THINK
HE DESERVES TO BE HONORED BY OUR BELIEVING HIM FOR WHAT HE DID .

@amigo de christo

 

[Brakelite]

But the SDA system itself is not biblically sound and should not be treated as just another harmless Christian denomination

So how should we treat it then? Harmful? Please explain how, specifically, the Adventist denomination has harmed people. While you are at it, you'll be able to offer some specific examples how the Adventist Church is unbiblical right? As i said, it's easy to make sweeping generalisations and quote a heap of long tired rumours about plagiarism and money making. But not so easy to honestly discuss actual Bible teachings.

 

[Brakelite]

The thread is = but religion is not, as the Scripture Says: "Not by works lest any man should boast"

Something to ponder today = Romans 3:4

"let God be true but every man a liar."
As it is written:
“That You may be justified in Your words,
And may overcome when You are judged.”

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Understanding Romans 3:4 in the KJV​

Key Verse​

The phrase "Let God be true, but every man a liar" is found in Romans 3:4 of the King James Version (KJV). The full verse reads:

• KJV: "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

Context and Meaning​

• Paul's Argument: In this passage, the Apostle Paul addresses the faithfulness of God in contrast to human unfaithfulness. He emphasizes that God's truth remains intact regardless of human belief or behavior.
• Scriptural Reference: The latter part of the verse references Psalm 51:4, where David acknowledges God's righteousness in judgment, reinforcing the idea that God is always just and truthful.

Implications​

• Faithfulness of God: This verse asserts that God's integrity is not dependent on human actions. Even if everyone else fails, God remains true to His word and promises.
• Human Fallibility: The statement highlights the tendency of humans to err and the importance of recognizing God's ultimate truth over personal or societal beliefs.

This verse serves as a reminder of the unwavering nature of God's truth in a world where human perspectives can often be flawed.

Mmmm. So far I'm the only one with the honesty to claim to belong to an organisation that answers to the question. I notice you haven't. Why don't you belong to an organisation you think is closest to Bible truth?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Which church is closest?:

Mid-Acts Rightly Divided Dispensationalist Grace?:



Currently "checking out" The Grace Study Bible from Berean Bible Society...

 

[David in NJ]

Mmmm. So far I'm the only one with the honesty to claim to belong to an organisation that answers to the question. I notice you haven't. Why don't you belong to an organisation you think is closest to Bible truth?

You must of missed Post #4

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
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UNLEASH , UNLEASH THE WORDS OF JESUS and of the apostels in said bible . TIME is running out .
MANY gonna hate , many gonna reject , but some will hear .
Our loyalty is not to man BUT TO GOD , TO HIS CHRIST , TO HIS WORDS , TO HIS G OSPEL .
THEY can keep the dung false love of the well favored harlot .
BUY THE TRUTH and SELL HER NOT . JESUS has prepared a lovely place for all his sheep at the end of our faith .
BUT HERE is what was and has been prepared unto all who preached unbelief , a lie , a f alse love
and rejected CHRIST and HIS WORDS , WAILING and utter screaming in total terror .
AND that BE NOT THE FAULT OF GOD but is the fault of all who DENIED HIS CHRIST .
This sheep is gonna expose that harlot , that which is of anti christ , his ecumeincal interfaith peace plan
AND POINT ONLY TO JESUS . And the cost will be the cost . TO HE WE OWE ALL . TO HE we OWE ALL .
TO HE we OWE ALL . TIME TO HONOR THE SON . for unbelief in HIM DISHON ORS HIM and unbleief
IN HIS WORDS IS UNBELIEF IN HIM and thus IN GOD THE FATHER . regulators and contenders for
the true FAITH mount up . FOR all who do enter into in terfaith will be led to the lie .
TIME to pull out who we can . F OR WHEN THE DOOR SHUTS , THE WORK IS DONE
and for all outside the WAILING SHALL BEGIN .

 

[amigo de christo]

You must of missed Post #4

These people can boast in any organization they like .
As for this sheep I SHALL BOAST IN GOD , IN CHRIST .
Dont ya find it odd that though i did much much research on many many denomitations
I ENTERED INTO NONE OF THEM . YET , yes there is a huge yet , YET IN THAT BIBLE i remain
and preaching THAT JESUS i do .
There is now not a demoniantion one that the ecuemenical harlot has not in some way influenced .
soME worse than others , but oh yeah her leaven is seen amongst them .
YET i dont seem to see her leaven EVER ONCE in the bible . EVER ONCE IN ANY WORDS OF GOD .
SO here is the motto . LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
AND here is the reminder . EVERY WORD OF GOD , OF CHRIST IS TRUTH
as well as what the HOLY SPIRIT filled apostels left us too .
SO for any who asks me , WHO DO you sit under amigo
I SAY JESUS . and THE BIBLE BE MY BOOK by which i shall teset every last one who speaks against .

 

[complete]

'And hath put all things under His feet,
and gave Him to be the head over all things
to the church, which is His body,
the fulness of Him that filleth all in all.'
(Eph 1:22-23)

Hello @RepentingChristian,

With respect why are you repenting? Don't you realise that your sins were all forgiven, the moment you heard the gospel of God concerning His Son, and believed what He said?

You have His word written ready at your hand, which is pure and unadulterated. You need no church building to congregate in, no pastor or teacher, but Christ risen: The Head of the church which is the Body of Christ. Trust Him. (see Eph. Phil. Col. 2 Tim. Titus, Phile.)

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[complete]

'Let no man therefore judge you
in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday,
or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come;
but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward
in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen,
vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
And not holding the Head,
from which all the body by joints and bands
having nourishment ministered, and knit together,
increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world,
why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
(Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom
in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body;
not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.'
(Col 2:16-23)

Praise God!

 

[David in NJ]

These people can boast in any organization they like .
As for this sheep I SHALL BOAST IN GOD , IN CHRIST .
Dont ya find it odd that though i did much much research on many many denomitations
I ENTERED INTO NONE OF THEM . YET , yes there is a huge yet , YET IN THAT BIBLE i remain
and preaching THAT JESUS i do .
There is now not a demoniantion one that the ecuemenical harlot has not in some way influenced .
soME worse than others , but oh yeah her leaven is seen amongst them .
YET i dont seem to see her leaven EVER ONCE in the bible . EVER ONCE IN ANY WORDS OF GOD .
SO here is the motto . LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
AND here is the reminder . EVERY WORD OF GOD , OF CHRIST IS TRUTH
as well as what the HOLY SPIRIT filled apostels left us too .
SO for any who asks me , WHO DO you sit under amigo
I SAY JESUS . and THE BIBLE BE MY BOOK by which i shall teset every last one who speaks against .

YEP, the Church in the Bible is the One that CHRIST Placed me in, along with all who believe His every word.

 

[complete]

YEP, the Church in the Bible is the One that CHRIST Placed me in, along with all who believe His every word.

@David in NJ

'But of Him (God) are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'
(1Co 1:30-31)

Praise God!

 

[amigo de christo]

YEP, the Church in the Bible is the One that CHRIST Placed me in, along with all who believe His every word.

you bet my friend . JESUS has the sheep .

 

[amigo de christo]

@David in NJ

'But of Him (God) are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'
(1Co 1:30-31)

Praise God!

Let he or she who has ears to hear , hear .
he who receives His testimony has set to HIS seal that GOD is true .
But he who recieves not the testimony that GOD gave of the Son , calls GOD A LIAR .
Get every man woman and child out of anything in any way connected to ecumenical interfaith .
IT HAS CALLED GOD a liar and satan as true . IT has LIED to them all . Through interreligious dialogue
IT has LIED to the false religoins as well as to christendom and said WE ALL serving the same GOD differently
and that the GOD of the christain is no better than the god of any other religoin .
Get them out and let none be a partaker of and or a co helper to that which is of anti christ
and has come to merge this world and its religoins as one in this late and last hour on earth .
And all will beleive it to be GOD and HIS PLAN for world peace . ONLY IT THE DEVIL . GET THEM OUT now .

 

[BarneyFife]

Mmmm. So far I'm the only one with the honesty to claim to belong to an organisation that answers to the question. I notice you haven't. Why don't you belong to an organisation you think is closest to Bible truth?

I don't know about you but I don't really understand the question.

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ

'But of Him (God) are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom,
and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'
(1Co 1:30-31)

Praise God!

BIG Thank You for this Blessed Encouragement

Makes me want to cry for i deserve none of it