Which major Christian church in the U.S. is closest to the truth?

[amigo de christo]

I have not read the Abraham accord.
It is probably a political statement in an attempt to get along.
Either way, it is not actually scripture.

most have not read it . THEY SHOULD .
Nor did many examine this religious tolerance , this religious freedom act .
IT was not created not meant to protect the true sheep at all .
IT was meant for the protection of the INCLUSIVE ones and for to help create and empower
this INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN of anti christ .
Yall should have examined these things .
However i do know many have not . THAT IS WHY i keep warning and remidning you all TO DO SO
and to get away from it .

 

[Grailhunter]

Whether or not it be a political statement in an attempt to get along , IT IS A LIE and that of ANTI CHRIST .
And our kingdom is not of this world .
I dont and flat out wont join hands with any who promote this JESUS CHRIST DENYING LIE and nor should you .
I tried to tell you that satan KNOWS HOW to make something seems as if ITS FOR OUR OWN GOOD and the GOOD OF THE WORLD
but it is A LIE . a lie .
And this sheep will not only NOT JOIN hands with it
BY the grace of the ONE and ONLY HOLY GOD and HIS CHRIST , by HIS indwelling SPIRIT
I AM GONNA EXPOSE THE ENTIRE THING . And warn against any man and woman i see
WHO is and has any part in it . I suggest you do the same .
For many are going to buy that LIE . And i sure dont want their blood on my hands .
THIS sheep warns and warn i shall . And i already fully know its gonna cost me a lot of hating coming at me .
A lot of false accusations which it already has . AND
i beleive in time even the death of a whole lot of sheep who continue to expose it .
OH WELL . JESUS HAS ME . IF my time aint up it aint up and when it is IT IS . I GOT A GOOD HOME
prepared by JESUS waiting on me and a whole new spiritual body too .
THE idea of the new heavens and new earth , SOUNDS LIKE PARADISe TO ME . this world aint my home .
MY is in the heavens and one day soon shall descend upon earth . So I do not fear what man can do to me
FOR GOD is my helper . I ONLY care about souls being saved and doing good for them .
SO oh yeah , I GOTTA warn all TO get far from that ecuemincal nightmare .

Well we do not worship the same God, that is for sure and certain.
But I do not think you would do well in politics.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well we do not worship the same God, that is for sure and certain.
But I do not think you would do well in politics.

ON that WE FULLY AGREE . heck no i would not do well in politics . This people would shoot me on day one .
CAUSE my KINGDOM is not of this world . SO i would say to all , TIME to PUT ALL FAITH AND ALL TRUST IN
the SON OF GOD , IN HIS CHRIST . TIME to repent of all and any wickedness and to serve and honor THE SON .
SO you spot on right about that . My kingdom is not political . and within it there is no democrac y .
THE GOD ALL MIGHTY AND HIS SON , THEY HAVE THE SAY SO and THEIR WORD IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY .
We have no vote in that matter . WHAT GOD says IS SUPREME and HIS SON .
SO its high time we remind the CHURCH about that , seeing they seem so darn adamant about being entitled
and having their own opinions and own versions of truth and what its trut h.
HERE IS TRUTH . and may all here, hear this reminder VERY CLEAR .
HERE IS TRUTH . GOD IS TRUTH , CHRIST IS TRUTH , HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH and HIS WORDS are TRUTH .
AND amen TO THAT .

 

[bdavidc]

How, exactly, should it be treated?

How should it be treated? As a system of error that must be exposed, rejected, and not given a safe place beside the gospel.

When a religion adds Sabbath keeping, Ellen White, investigative judgment, dietary restrictions, or denominational loyalty to the finished work of Christ, it is corrupting grace. “If righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain” ~Galatians 2:21.

Do not hide serious error behind the word “Christian.” “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump” ~Galatians 5:9. False doctrine is not harmless because sincere people believe it.

Christ said, “It is finished” ~John 19:30. Anyone who adds religious requirements to His finished work is preaching something God did not preach. “If any man preach any other gospel unto you…let him be accursed” ~Galatians 1:9.

Individual SDAs should be called out of that system and pointed to Christ alone. The system itself should not be defended, normalized, or treated as spiritually safe. It should be tested by Scripture and rejected where it contradicts Scripture.

That is exactly how it should be treated.

 

[amigo de christo]

How should it be treated? As a system of error that must be exposed, rejected, and not given a safe place beside the gospel.

When a religion adds Sabbath keeping, Ellen White, investigative judgment, dietary restrictions, or denominational loyalty to the finished work of Christ, it is corrupting grace. “If righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain” ~Galatians 2:21.

Do not hide serious error behind the word “Christian.” “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump” ~Galatians 5:9. False doctrine is not harmless because sincere people believe it.

Christ said, “It is finished” ~John 19:30. Anyone who adds religious requirements to His finished work is preaching something God did not preach. “If any man preach any other gospel unto you…let him be accursed” ~Galatians 1:9.

Individual SDAs should be called out of that system and pointed to Christ alone. The system itself should not be defended, normalized, or treated as spiritually safe. It should be tested by Scripture and rejected where it contradicts Scripture.

That is exactly how it should be treated.

and now a word .
AND HOW should anything ecumeincal interfaith interreligious dialgoue be treated .
EXPOSED . exposed for the lie it is and who it is leading them all as one man RIGHT TOO .
And that there ecumeincalism has crept into every denonamition known to man
and came mainly from the RCC . This is the lie meant to merge the decieved religoins and
those that are decieved within christendom to be as one . And it wont be UNDER GOD
though it has come to claim it is OF GOD and IS HIS PLAN f or world peace . that one is a liar and the father of all lies .
We need to expose it and quickly too . its taking over everything now and its religoin of inclusivity
will become LAW .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well we do not worship the same God, that is for sure and certain.
But I do not think you would do well in politics.

i can assure you that JESUS nor any of them apostels would have done well in politics either .
IT was such that strung him up on a c ross .
THEY had already agreed that JESUS was a danger to their nation , that the POLITICAL ROMANS
would come and take their city IF HE was allowed to remain . SO let us never blend politics with church
state with church and world with church . That does not mean what the left , however tries to make it mean .
CAUSE THEY DO all TO REMOVE anything about GOD from this nation
UNDER THE GUISE that its church and state. NO ITS NOT .
BUT this ecmiencal movement IS CHURCH AND STATE , WORLD STATE .
it will cause the blood of many lambs to flow too . Let us rather preach JESUS
and of course pray for the leaders . BUT DO NOT support that ecumeincal intefaith .

 

[bdavidc]

And you have every right to believe that, so long as your belief is founded on truth. Saying any denomination is dodgy or heretical or borderline Christian is real easy. Actually studying adventist doctrine and spending genuine time with prayer and dedicated time (the means by which they were forged in the beginning) and then coming to a conclusion either way, is much more the viable option and your opinion to be taken seriously. Many have come to me with what they believe at biblical arguments that refute Adventists teachings. But the bottom line is they are not at all biblical despite the use of texts they claim are supportive. Their theories really are just made up.
Like the argument that "Christ is my sabbath". That's made up. Despite biblical texts offered, none of them actually teach such a theory. People are being dishonest when they persist in what is functionally not there.

You accuse others of dishonesty, but you are the one ignoring what the texts actually say.

No, the exact phrase “Christ is my Sabbath” is not written as a quotation in the Bible. Neither is the word “Trinity.” The question is whether the doctrine is taught.

Christ said, “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest” ~Matthew 11:28. Hebrews says, “We which have believed do enter into rest” ~Hebrews 4:3. Paul says the Sabbath days were “a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ” ~Colossians 2:16-17.

The shadow pointed forward. Christ is the substance. That is not invented. That is what the text says.

You say people must study Adventism before their objections deserve consideration. No. Adventism must stand before Scripture. Prayer and dedication do not make false doctrine true. The prophets of Baal were sincere and dedicated too.

The investigative judgment is not taught in Scripture. Christ said, “It is finished” ~John 19:30, and “by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified” ~Hebrews 10:14. The believer “shall not come into condemnation” ~John 5:24.

Stop dismissing biblical correction as dishonesty simply because it exposes your denomination. “Let God be true, but every man a liar” ~Romans 3:4. Your loyalty must be to Christ and His Word, not to Adventism.

 

[bdavidc]

So how should we treat it then? Harmful? Please explain how, specifically, the Adventist denomination has harmed people. While you are at it, you'll be able to offer some specific examples how the Adventist Church is unbiblical right? As i said, it's easy to make sweeping generalisations and quote a heap of long tired rumours about plagiarism and money making. But not so easy to honestly discuss actual Bible teachings.

Yes, Adventism is harmful, and your attempt to dismiss every correction as rumor is exactly how false systems protect themselves from Scripture.

The investigative judgment is not taught anywhere in the Bible. Christ did not begin reviewing believers in 1844. Jesus said, “It is finished” ~John 19:30. Scripture says, “By one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified” ~Hebrews 10:14. The believer “shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” ~John 5:24. Adventism clouds the finished work of Christ with a doctrine invented to rescue a failed prophecy.

Then there is Ellen White. Calling her writings a continuing source of instruction and correction gives an extra-biblical voice authority over the church. Scripture already makes the man of God “throughly furnished unto all good works” ~2 Timothy 3:16-17. If Scripture fully furnishes us, Ellen White adds nothing necessary. If she adds necessary light, then Scripture was not sufficient. You cannot have it both ways.

Adventism also turns the seventh-day Sabbath into a badge of faithfulness and ties it to end-time loyalty. Yet God says, “Let no man therefore judge you...in respect of...the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ” ~Colossians 2:16-17. You are defending the shadow after Christ has come.

That is the harm. It burdens consciences, weakens assurance, elevates a false prophetic authority, and places believers under religious requirements the apostles never imposed upon the church.

You asked for Bible teaching. There it is. Stop demanding evidence and then waving it away because it condemns your denomination. “Let God be true, but every man a liar” ~Romans 3:4.

Your loyalty is showing. You are not testing Adventism by Scripture. You are twisting Scripture to protect Adventism. Repent before your denomination becomes more precious to you than the truth of God.