Who’s words are these?
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Then why isn’t his theology your theology? (I’m a Jewish monotheist because he’s a Jewish monotheist. His theology is my theology. Why, if you think it shouldn’t be, shouldn’t it be?)
That’s right.
He‘s the promised and prophesied messianic king.
Do you support David typology? 1 Chronicles 29:20 is the model I see and copy.
Thanks. We both have the New Testament.
As I see it, the Jewish theology of the Hebrew Bible is the Messiah’s own Jewish theology and his theology is the theology of the New Testament. (That is why I quoted the New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology.)
From church history we can see and track the theology of the church gradually changing from the Jewish monotheism of Israel, the Messiah, the apostles, and the primitive Christians, in post-biblical times.
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”I’m a disciple of the Messiah but my theology isn’t his theology.”
Those are words that I couldn’t in good conscience speak.
As Tevye (unlike me, a - fictional - unbelieving Jewish monotheist) said in Fiddler On The Roof, “If I try and bend that far, I‘ll break!”
P.S.
Luke 6:40 is my favorite passage of scripture.
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Your title "Jewish monotheist" is not only redundant because Judaism is a monotheistic religion, but it's deceptive as well, because you don't practice Judaism, and have said elsewhere that you're a Unitarian.
It's not scriptural that Jesus was resurrected by only the Father, but also the Son, and the Holy Spirit:
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I (the Son) will raise it up" (Jn. 2:19)
"[...] the Father, Who raised Him from the dead [...]" (Gal. 1:1)
"But if the [Holy] Spirit of Him (God) Who raised up Jesus from the dead [...]" (Rom. 8:11)
Actually, "the Spirit of the Father" isn't written, but rather "the Spirit of Him". (Rom. 8:11)
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It’s neither redundant nor deceptive. I’ve quoted a boatload of trinitarian scholars (in other threads) who acknowledge that Jewish monotheism is unitarian.
Jesus himself is a Jewish monotheist. His God is the Father. I’m sure you’ve heard him say it in scripture yourself.
I’ve already addressed this several times from the perspective of Jewish monotheism.
In trinitarian theology; not in the theology of Jewish monotheism.
It is though, for reasons given.
Your perspective is that of a Unitarian, not a Jew.
It's not scriptural that Jesus was resurrected by only the Father, but also the Son, and the Holy Spirit:
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I (the Son) will raise it up" (Jn. 2:19)
"[...] the Father, Who raised Him from the dead [...]" (Gal. 1:1)
"But if the [Holy] Spirit of Him (God) Who raised up Jesus from the dead [...]" (Rom. 8:11)
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Sister-n-Christ
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Sister-n-Christ
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Just to drop a small note here.
Jewish Monotheist do not believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah nor as the Son of God.
Jewish Monotheist do not believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah nor as the Son of God.
Can you explain Jesus gaining his salvation to me ? It was through his shedding of his blood and death on the cross that we were able to gain our salvation .
The body that contained the Spirit of Jesus died , but Jesus as we know Him did not die .
The Father's Spirit never left Jesus .
10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
God was God? I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking. I believe God is the one God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -> the God and Father of Jesus of Nazareth.
I’m a Jewish monotheist. I believe Jesus of Nazareth is a unique human person, the incarnation of the Father’s logos.
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Most Jewish monotheists don’t but a small number of us do and have since the 1st century.
I would say (and have said, even on this forum) to unbelieving Jewish monotheists: Jesus is the Messiah, Son of the living God. I’m willing to suffer and die for this belief.
That’s true.
That’s false.
I taught the congregation I pastored, and I teach my readers, to be willing to suffer and die for both Jesus and God.
It's written that God is the Word:
θεόν (theon) is the accusative form of the word for "God" (θεὸς/theos):
| Case | Accusative (who or what the action is directly done to, e.g., "I saw him") |
θεὸς (theos)
| Case | Nominative (who or what is doing the action or being described) |
In Jn. 1:1 we read, "Ἐν (In) ἀρχῇ (beginning) ἦν (was) ὁ (the) λόγος (Word), καὶ (and) ὁ (the) λόγος (Word) ἦν (was) πρὸς τὸν (with) θεόν (God), καὶ (and) θεὸς (God) ἦν (was) ὁ (the) λόγος (Word).”
"For if we live, we live to the Lord. Or if we die, we die to the Lord." (Rom. 14:8)
Is the "Lord" we are to live and die for Jesus or God?
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You're welcome !
It is through having the Old Testament and the New Testament and tying the two together and knitting a whole cloth that I see the combination of The Father , The Son and The Holy Spirit .
Do I believe someone can read and study the bible and come to same place you have @Matthias , sure they can .
I did not arrive at the place were you are in your studies of all things God .
I do not wield the creeds as a weapon upon others and I am perplexed by those that do .
Sister-n-Christ
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Correct, and since it's the Lord God that we are to live and die for (Rom. 14:8), shouldn't you teach your readers that God is the only Lord to live and die for?
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