Aunty Jane
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Cannot agree there.....Adam's children had no choice but to be born with inherited sin, so Christ came to redeem Adam's children....there can be no redemption for Adam and his wife who had no inherited imperfection to blame for their disobedience. It was willful and deliberate and he was responsible for the death of all of his offspring, making him accountable as a manslayer and complicite along with the devil, because the devil could never have become a manslayer without being aided an abetted by Adam. The woman was deceived....but Adam wasn't, so it was his actions that condemned his children. He is not forgivable because Jesus did not die to save the murderer.Well not quite Jane. We believe Jesus died for Adam, and in redeeming Adam, he redeems all those who come from Adam's loins, namely the world of mankind.
Yes, a ransom is payment for the return of something valuable. In our case, the value had to be equivalent.....'a sinless life for a sinless life'.1 Timothy 2:6 tells us Jesus gave himself a "ransom for all".
The ransom is anti-lutron, according to Strong's is 487 - "a redemption price. - ransom, corresponding to, instead of/exchange"
This is also the principle behind redemption. How the redemption laws worked in Israel showed how someone in debt could be released from the servitude it demanded, if the debt could not be paid. A generous benefactor could pay the debt and free the person from servitude to the creditor. If his children were also in servitude which happened when the debt was large, they too could go free.
Cannot agree with that because the 'separation of the sheep and the goats' happens before the millennium begins. The goats fail to support Christ's "brothers" who are still in the flesh. So they are bound for the place that God has reserved for the devil and his demons, but who will only go to that place of no return after the final test at the end of the thousand year reign of the Kingdom.Through one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and through one man (Jesus) salvation came to all. Of course in the end, they will ALL have to prove themselves during the millennial reign, having a chance as the first pair had in the garden before sin entered the world. This time they will die for their own sins and not the sins of Adam, since Jesus would have wiped Adamic sin off the slate.
Matt 25:31-36; 40...
“When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world."
Then he identifies why some are counted as "sheep" and others are "goats"...
"For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you visited me.’ . . . .
‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’"
So the sheep are those who supported Christ's brothers on earth, and he counts those acts as being done to himself.....but the goats, do the opposite...they fail to support Christ's "brothers" because they don't believe that they are Christ's brothers, and so do not warrant such treatment.
When they ask how they had failed, Jesus says to the goats....
"‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”
So not all who are alive today professing to be Christians, will pass that separation on the right side. (Matt 7:21-23) "Everlasting cutting off" means eternal death.