Who do you think would be best U.S. President in 2028?

[Jack]

No.
Now, see here. This is why many folks think you are a crack pot.

Many? Are you hearing voices?

I called YOU out for not voting.

And you gave ZERO Scripture as usual.

THAT post had no Bible in it.

Let me help you.

Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Yet, here you are falsely accusing me of slandering the Bible.
I forgive you.
Maybe you need to practice a little 1 John 1:9

You forgive me for quoting God? lol

 

[Wrangler]

If you are right God is wrong.

Not. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. I deny your implication that God is wrong to give us freedom.

 

[Jack]

Yet MORE interesting when you hear, "Depart from me, I never knew you".

Why does God's Word upset you so Jimmy?

 

[Jack]

Not. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. I deny your implication that God is wrong to give us freedom.

Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Including Hitler, Stalin, Biden, etc!

 

[JimKnox]

Why does God's Word upset you so Jimmy?

His words upset me not.
Neither do YOU upset me.
I forgive you for your slander.

 

[Jack]

His words upset me not.
Neither do YOU upset me.
I forgive you for your slander.

Did you rip Romans 1 out of your Bible?

Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[Wrangler]

Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Including Hitler, Stalin, Biden, etc!

Well, at least you are confident that you’re not misapplying Scripture. Do you recall the divine counsel and God asking how to achieve a goal? 1 kings 22:19-23. It has happened in every election also.

 

[Jack]

Well, at least you are confident that you’re not misapplying Scripture. Do you recall the divine counsel and God asking how to achieve a goal? 1 kings 22:19-23. It has happened in every election also.

"For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."

 

[Wrangler]

"For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."

Broken record Jack. What’s your answer to the OP question?

 

[amigo de christo]

I learned many years ago not to vote!

i just noticed you got a real angry face from jim . These people act like its an act of anti christ to not vote .
Wish they got more worked up with what is actually going on within the churches .
An angry face emoji cause you dont vote . yet they dont care one bit
THE GOSPEL has been removed IN THIS INTEFAITH for world peace dialgoue . BUT HEY , if you dont v ote , you an anti christ .
This is sadly pathetic . truly it is .

 

[amigo de christo]

Broken record Jack. What’s your answer to the OP question?

Amigo for president . Time to make bible reading great again .
Any volunteers to be my VP .
Just be warned if you decide to run with me , PREPARE for bullets to flying at our heads .
Cause i am gonna be running WITH JESUS ON MY LIPS and that bible in my hand . And beleive me
this all inclusive generation that will kiss a koran and embrace the wrong rainbow , HAS NO LOVE for me
OR for the words of GOD in that b ible . So rounds gonna be coming down range , AS IN right at us .

 

[amigo de christo]

His words upset me not.
Neither do YOU upset me.
I forgive you for your slander.

Wanna know what i find so so sad .
The fact you put such an angry face on a post of a man that wont vote .
But by golly it might take gun point to get you all to even dare to preach CHRIST to anyone .
Though i would never hold a gun on anyone .
I aint even upset at people who do v ote . But man o man yall angry cause a man wont vote .
I seen the emoji jim so dont deny it my friend . I thought wow
they get angry at one for not voting
OR TWO if you count me . But heaven forbid i get any help on this site
witnessing to atheists . rather a top inclusiviain called me a religious extremist for preaching JESUS
to an athiest .
And what did he preach to the athiest . A FAT LIE .
HE said its okay you an atheist , JUST treat a righteous man good and you will recieve a righteous mans reward .
TALK about a false gospel . IT AINT okay TO DENY JESUS . NOT ONE bit . And his works
WONT save him either . But wait , I AM the religious extremist for preaching JESUS .

 

[Jack]

Broken record Jack. What’s your answer to the OP question?

Christians accept Biblical answers. Since you insist:

"For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."

 

[Marvelloustime]

Wanna know what i find so so sad .
The fact you put such an angry face on a post of a man that wont vote .
But by golly it might take gun point to get you all to even dare to preach CHRIST to anyone .
Though i would never hold a gun on anyone .
I aint even upset at people who do v ote . But man o man yall angry cause a man wont vote .
I seen the emoji jim so dont deny it my friend . I thought wow
they get angry at one for not voting
OR TWO if you count me . But heaven forbid i get any help on this site
witnessing to atheists . rather a top inclusiviain called me a religious extremist for preaching JESUS
to an athiest .
And what did he preach to the athiest . A FAT LIE .
HE said its okay you an atheist , JUST treat a righteous man good and you will recieve a righteous mans reward .
TALK about a false gospel . IT AINT okay TO DENY JESUS . NOT ONE bit . And his works
WONT save him either . But wait , I AM the religious extremist for preaching JESUS .

@amigo de christo

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Even though I am a woman, I don't prefer a woman president. Women are too emotional. And Amy has a hard time deciding between Legitimate American Citizens and Birthright Citizenship according to the Constitution.

If the DSA get in they said they will do away with the Presidency and the Senate and the Supreme Court.
So maybe it won't make a difference what We the People want in the end eh?
Vote Blue just out of curiosity.

Frankly, Dad is 91 and I'm 61, neither of us can get any home health care because the system sucks. So yeah lets go Blue that will fix it. LOL
We're on our way home soon anyways.

Hugs

the democrat party is not what it was.

Its crazy how low it has fallen.

I do not even trust many of the red party either..

 

[Ziggy]

the democrat party is not what it was.

Its crazy how low it has fallen.

I do not even trust many of the red party either..

The red party isn't exactly what it used to be either.
It's crazy the transformation MAGA is bringing to it for the people.
When you have republicans like McConnell, Murkowski, Thune and a few others who want us to believe they are working in our "best" interest, and you know they are only in it for themselves, it's time for a change.

At this point the two parties names are MAGA which stands for Make America Great Again, aka smaller government and less taxes, and, the DSA which stands for Democratic Socialist Party aka, Communists. Big Government and higher taxes. And there won't be any voting to complain about either because they will control everything and you will own nothing and be VERY happy.

Neither party has all the answers but I rather live in freedom than oppression.

They call MAGA nazi's, but have you ever looked at the Nazi party's name?
Adolf Hitler’s party was officially called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party

There is that "Socialist, the same Socialist in the DSA party.

The days of Democrats and Republicans has come and gone. They were the Old Guard.
Now MAGA and DSA don't show up as parties on the ballot. There is still the old names Republican and Democrat.

The Republicans believe in Independence. You determine your own life's outcome.
The Democrats believe in Dependence. The government determines your life's outcome.

Some people are leaders and some people are followers. But that decision is still exclusively yours to make, for now.
In some countries you don't have a choice, and this choice may be the last one you get to make as to which direction you believe the United States should head in.

Just remember, in the Democrat Party there are No Kings and that Includes Jesus Christ.

God Bless
Hugs

 

[pompadour]

We are living in the last days. So Don't be surprised if your surprised in the next 2 months or so, Just look around at what is going on in the world. I think someone kicked over the apple cart.

President? surprise, I think Trump will have a third term because 2020 was stolen, That would give Trump a legal right for a third term.
There is a lot going on behind the curtain that most people are not aware of. That I have heard bits and pieces of. Just my opinion.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Christians accept Biblical answers. Since you insist:

"For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."

Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Including Hitler, Stalin, Biden, etc!

If God is sovereign over who ultimately holds authority, then He doesn't need me to correctly guess the election winner in order to “appoint” anyone. That's the entire problem with your argument.

Romans 13 says authorities ultimately exist under God. It does not say the individual voter who chose the losing candidate sinned against God. And Scripture immediately prevents “appointed by God” from meaning “obey everything rulers say" anyway..

“We must obey God rather than men.” — Acts 5:29

God can raise rulers up, allow them to exercise real human agency, judge them when they abuse that authority, and ultimately remove or even strike them down.

See Pharaoh — Exodus 9:16; 14:27–28.
See Nebuchadnezzar — Daniel 4:28–37. God gave him authority, judged his pride, humbled him, and later restored him.
See Belshazzar — Daniel 5:22–30. God judged his arrogance and his kingdom was taken from him that very night.
See Herod Agrippa I — Acts 12:21–23. He accepted divine honor, and “an angel of the Lord struck him down.”

And the principle is stated plainly - “He removes kings and sets up kings.” — Daniel 2:21

So “appointed by God” obviously doesn't mean “everything that ruler chooses to do is God's moral will.”

Yes, Stalin could come to power under God's sovereign providence while Stalin himself remained morally responsible for persecuting and murdering millions of innocent people. Otherwise your position becomes - God appointed Stalin, therefore Stalin's atrocities in killing millions of Christians and burning down thousands of churches was "God's will", and anyone resisting Stalin and trying to stop him was resisting what "God wanted".

That's unhinged to put it mildly.

Romans 13 establishes God's sovereignty over rulers. It doesn't abolish human free agency, moral responsibility, or God's judgment of wicked rulers.

 

[Jack]

If God is sovereign over who ultimately holds authority, then He doesn't need me to correctly guess the election winner in order to “appoint” anyone. That's the entire problem with your argument.

Romans 13 says authorities ultimately exist under God. It does not say the individual voter who chose the losing candidate sinned against God. And Scripture immediately prevents “appointed by God” from meaning “obey everything rulers say" anyway..

“We must obey God rather than men.” — Acts 5:29

God can raise rulers up, allow them to exercise real human agency, judge them when they abuse that authority, and ultimately remove or even strike them down.

See Pharaoh — Exodus 9:16; 14:27–28.
See Nebuchadnezzar — Daniel 4:28–37. God gave him authority, judged his pride, humbled him, and later restored him.
See Belshazzar — Daniel 5:22–30. God judged his arrogance and his kingdom was taken from him that very night.
See Herod Agrippa I — Acts 12:21–23. He accepted divine honor, and “an angel of the Lord struck him down.”

And the principle is stated plainly - “He removes kings and sets up kings.” — Daniel 2:21

So “appointed by God” obviously doesn't mean “everything that ruler chooses to do is God's moral will.”

Yes, Stalin could come to power under God's sovereign providence while Stalin himself remained morally responsible for persecuting and murdering millions of innocent people. Otherwise your position becomes - God appointed Stalin, therefore Stalin's atrocities in killing millions of Christians and burning down thousands of churches was "God's will", and anyone resisting Stalin and trying to stop him was resisting what "God wanted".

That's unhinged to put it mildly.

Romans 13 establishes God's sovereignty over rulers. It doesn't abolish human free agency, moral responsibility, or God's judgment of wicked rulers.

"
Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

"
Romans 13:1
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

The problem is that you're adding a conclusion that Scripture doesn't contain.

“There is no authority except from God” does not mean “God personally controls every decision every ruler makes.”

“The authorities that exist are appointed by God” does not mean “everyone who opposed them opposed God.”

You're taking God's sovereignty over authority and turning it into divine puppeteering of rulers.

That's not what Scripture says.