Bob Estey
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Repentance brings us peace. What good is heaven if it doesn't include peace?There is no need to conjure up an imaginary Heaven, but if this makes you happy, then fine.
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Repentance brings us peace. What good is heaven if it doesn't include peace?There is no need to conjure up an imaginary Heaven, but if this makes you happy, then fine.
Why did Jesus have John to write to Angels?There you have it - no one will be in heaven but the angels - heaven comes down to earth, and we dwell there with God and Jesus, on the new earth, in the New Jerusalem.
An interesting question. Do you have a view on this?Why did Jesus have John to write to Angels?
Revelation 2:1 KJV
[1] Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I assume Angels is in reference to the overseers of the churches,,, a reference to ministering Spirits?An interesting question. Do you have a view on this?
hmmmm, the stars (angels) are in his right hand. I've been pondering this myselfI assume Angels is in reference to the overseers of the churches,,, a reference to ministering Spirits?
why not?Hebrews 1:5,13-14 KJV
[5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? [13] But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? [14] Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
I don’t believe that this is referring to celestial beings.
Hebrews 1:13-14 KJVwhy not?
any scriptural reference needs understanding in its context to come to an accurate conclusion. Quoting texts from different quadrants of scripture irrespective of context but because they seem to sound the same puts one behind the eight ball immediately and sets oneself up for self sabotage.I asked AJ in an earlier post to give some supportive text that puts the Sons of God existing at the cosmic creation, or even some scripture supporting this idea. An individual in the Old Testament referenced as a son of God?
Psalm 19:1-3 KJV
[1] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. [2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
This isn’t talking about the cosmos.
Like @quietthinker said their in His right hand.This IS talking about the stars. The meaning of the zodiac has been corrupted. The original meaning of the zodiac, the patterns that constellations make, is an outline of redemption.
God created the stars and named the constellations long before demonic forces corrupted the meanings of the stars and enslaved people with superstitious horoscope addiction - the real story of human redemption through Christ as pictured graphically in the starry heavens.
There are several books on this, and D. James Kennedy did a sermon on the real zodiac meaning:
The scripture in post 70. What does this say to you?any scriptural reference needs understanding in its context to come to an accurate conclusion. Quoting texts from different quadrants of scripture irrespective of context but because they seem to sound the same puts one behind the eight ball immediately and sets oneself up for self sabotage.
Why did Jesus have John to write to Angels?
Revelation 2:1 KJV
[1] Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
The stars in His right hand are angels. Angels are also called stars in scripture.Like @quietthinker said their in His right hand.
What your claiming is to earthly for my pallet.
the sheep are on His right hand
In Hebrews here, Paul is addressing Jewish Christians who are being tempted to go back to Judaism...included in that was the worship of angels. His various points highlight the supremacy of Jesus....this is the context.Hebrews 1:13-14 KJV
[13] But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? [14] Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?