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  1. 101G

    101G Well-Known Member

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    ERROR, the scripture are clear, he was alone, and by himself, meaning no other ... "PERSON" was present. do you know what that means? it was no other person to go through, no second person, and no third person.

    so no you are incorrect. and yes GOD is JESUS only "one" Person. so again you have two God which God himself say is not true, listen. Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." God here is capitalized so there is no confusion with a "god", lower case...

    so if your inner God told you that, then your inner God lie to you. for also the TRUE AND LIVING GOD SAID THIS, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

    if the TRUE and LIVING don't know any... did you get that? he , he one person don't know any, thay means he didn't go through anyone else. so you and the bible don't line up. meaning you or the bible is lying. and I take the "WORD" of God over you any day of the week.

    so try again.... now I want you to think real carefully who is the "WE" in John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."

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  2. Truther

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    The true, 1st century oneness taught God AND the man. not God is the man.

    Both oneness and trins teach God is the man....

    The RCC is a big hook to shake.
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    ...and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."


    Plural.
     
  4. 101G

    101G Well-Known Member

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    yes, Plural, but is it ONE "PERSON who is Plural.. NUMERICALLY :D , or is it two PERSON separately?

    my God I love this, your answer please.

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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    Trinity started with "God is the man" in the RCC.

    Early 20th century Oneness elders modified it.

    They should have started from scratch.

    They had the Roman Catholic, "hypostatic union" doctrine stuck in their heads during the modification process.

    They still do, so they argue with their protestant cousins over the difference in their "H/U" ideas.

    All the while, their mother smirks.
     
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    101G Well-Known Member

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    we're not talking abut the RCC nor the trinity, just answer the question.

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  7. Truther

    Truther Well-Known Member

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    2 separate persons.

    God and the man.

    Not, God is the man.

    Jesus was speaking of his inner God in verse 10, which he and his inner God would make THEIR abode with us in verse 23.

    This was not code, but literal.
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    I am.
    You are unwittingly a trin cousin(half sister), and the RCC presides over you, per the "hypostatic union" doctrine she created...that you teach.
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    Would you like to see what the original, 1st century oneness teaching looked like, that Jesus taught?
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    Here it is....

    30 I and my Father are one....

    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    It is that simple.

    No books or commentary.
     
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    if it was 2 separate persons, then you are saying that it is 2 person inside us? for is it not the one spirit that dewlls in us? and since that is true it's only one Spirit in us are you saying that the 2 separate persons is the one Spirit? yes or no.


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    @Truther, Maybe I can help you out a bit on this, you said, "2 separate person ....." but one Spirit? here's something to help you out 1 John 3:24 "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us." well that's one of your 2 ... is it? :eek: (smile) lol.

    PICJAG.
     
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    1 Cornithians 13:1 is also important.

    I’m not going to stop advocating for that too, even if it offends you.
     
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    Truther Well-Known Member

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    FYI. It is impossible to offend me on a forum.

    I had the worst try it, I am numb now....LOL
     
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    No, 2 Spirits now.

    Per Romans 8, we have the Divine Spirit of God and the human Spirit of Christ in us.
     
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    Yes, they are unifed by the Col 2:9 effect.

    The physical human body of Christ is obviously not in our physical bodies, but the spirit human body is....
     
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    I would urge you to preach with charity & obvious love & humility, and not insults/intimidation/pride/“exposing”/etc.
     
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    ANOTHER ERROR ON YOUR PART, well two. for the Spirit of Christ is the same Spirit of God. supportive Scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    Being is PRESENT TENSE, and "Form" here is Nature, which is Spirit, for God is a Spirit. "a" meaning one Spirit. he have the same EQUAL Nature/Spirit. so it's not two Spirits, nor two separate person, you lie. you're worest than the trinity believers.

    then you said, Jesus has a Human spirit. another Lie. Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" his flesh was HUMAN but not his spirit. God nature never changed. it was only empted or neutral of it's powers. for no reputation is the Greek word,
    G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
    1. to make empty.
    2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
    [from G2756]
    KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
    Root(s): G2756

    none of your two spirits line up with the bible.

    now the two persons thing are not working, and now the two Spirits thing is are working for you. nothing is working for you, you have been reprove.

    PS let us give you a peek of who the Spirit of Christ is.... :cool: listen, 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:"
    1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

    understand the Spirit of Christ was IN, IN, IN, the prophets in the OT. but guess what his BODY was not in the OT... :eek: say what? yes, JESUS was in the OT, but NOT his flesh. let the bible tell you who was in the OT. 2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." BINGO..... (smile).

    see the Spirit of Cjhrist is the Holy Spirit which is God the Father, without flesh, without bone, and without blood.... see how you're ignorant of the word of God. the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Ghost, God almighty. did you not READ? John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"
    John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
    John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

    see another name for the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of TRUTH, WHY? because JESUS said I AM the "TRUTH.... (smile)...my, my, my. he is the Spirit of Truth. education time. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

    do you know what "advocate" here means? listen up,
    G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
    1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
    2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
    3. a comforter.
    [(not given)]
    KJV: advocate, comforter
    Root(s): G3844, G2822

    an "advocate" is the "COMFORTER", JESUS is the COMFORTER, the HOLY SPIRIT. that's who JESUS is "THE HOLY SPIRIT", the Spirit of TRUTH. see your ERROR now?


    My God, TWO Spirits. I cain't believe someone can be that misinforned of the things of God.

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    So many removing Jesus from the gospel and so denying their salvation. So you too Killed teh eternal father who cannot die, such foolishness.
     
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    Sadly you are right my friend. As Jesus through God is the Word of God. Access to God means through Jesus Christ and eternity.
     
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