Who or What is Antichrist?

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Mungo

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heretoeternity said:
Revelation 17 describes the Roman religion very well, as a beast power and antichrist...and I would sooner believe the Bible than the writings and teachings of the Vatican.
Even though the Roman religion does not follow the Bible and word of God, in many instances, they should know by now...

Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of dec 25th, easter, and sunday all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
As usual - not a single shred of evidence provided for these claims.

Exodus 20:16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour."
 

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heretoeternity said:
In Matthew 24 Jesus warns us of false teachers to lead us away from Him.
Paul in 2nd Thess.2 and John in 1st John 2 reminds of a "son of perdition" and "antichrists"...
Who and what are these?
There is a website that has very informative articles on this subject, to the point of identifying these entities.
Google: End times deception-The antichrist is hidden in plain sight.

Reading this article, and following the many links, provides spiritual understanding, as well as the history leading up to these entities.
I can think of many people today that would fit the term "anti-Christ". Just pick any chump you've ever met that displayed any hatred towards the word of God. If you are asking who or what is THE anti-Christ....well.....just know that he ain't human and it will make identifying him much easier for you.
 
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Maybe you think the antichrist is not human, but if not then it is a religious/political entity, as per Revelation 17 and Revelation 13 and fits the description of the Roman religious/political system..

Remember always, Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan/demonic origins.
 

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heretoeternity said:
Remember always, Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan/demonic origins.

Remember always, Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, not through Judaising and worshiping Saturn.
 

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You are right mungo...we can thank Rome for giving the days of the week the names which were meant to detract from God's numbering system...Rome made sure they kept with their pagan roots when naming the days...but What Rome calls Saturnalia is actually God's seventh day of the week, which is the Holy day of the week which was created by God in Genesis 2....the 1st day of the week devoted to Rome's sungod, sunday is just an ordinary week day with no no Biblical authority...thank you mungo...but you must remember always:

Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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mjrhealth said:
It was your church that was Martyring teh ones who refused to believe the lie, we owe nothing to teh catholich church it has done nothing in its persuit of glory but to glorify herself.
You have no evidence, no sources, no reputable historians, just funnymentalist hate propaganda. If the research is beyond your academic level, you have no business posting things you cannot or will not prove. Here's some homework for you. All citations are from Protestant or secular scholars:
The Protestant Inquisition
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NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
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Those sabbatarians can be so funny!!!
 

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You are hilarious, claiming to be christian but ignoring the teachings of Jesus...strange sense of humour you have...but as long as you are made aware:

Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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All citations are from Protestant or secular scholars:
What is it teh bible says. "they would rather believe the lie". The evidence is there you just dont want to believe it. not Gods doing all your own. It has being written throughout the pages of history, denied only by those who refuse to see the truth, but what can one say, there is no "right" religion and yours like all teh rest are not from God. Daughters of the harlot all of them.
 

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heretoeternity said:
You are right mungo...we can thank Rome for giving the days of the week the names which were meant to detract from God's numbering system...Rome made sure they kept with their pagan roots when naming the days...but What Rome calls Saturnalia is actually God's seventh day of the week, which is the Holy day of the week which was created by God in Genesis 2....the 1st day of the week devoted to Rome's sungod, sunday is just an ordinary week day with no no Biblical authority...thank you mungo...but you must remember always:

Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
Saturnalia was a several days festival not a day of the week like Saturday - Saturn's day (or Satan's day?).

But remember always, Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, not through Judaising and worshiping Saturn.
 

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heretoeternity said:
Maybe you think the antichrist is not human, but if not then it is a religious/political entity, as per Revelation 17 and Revelation 13 and fits the description of the Roman religious/political system..

Remember always, Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan/demonic origins.
Maybe I should have clarified what I meant by him not being human. I just don't like repeating myself. I'm not referring to a system, I'm referring to the individual called "the Antichrist". The Antichrist of the great tribulation is an angel called Apollyon. He is clearly identified as the beast that ascends out of the pit who will make war with the saints, make outrageous claims against the God of gods, perform miracles, and rule all for a time with an iron fist. And I'm referring to the first beast, it never states who the second beast is supposed to be.
 

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Josho said:
Good answer, but there are also the 2 beasts given authority by the dragon, which possibly could be 2 leaders with great demonic magical powers from Satan, because what greater tool would Satan use to deceive every non-Christian and even deceive some Christians to cause them to bow to him, it has gotta be a great deception you know, which is why i think a great false messiah will rise up and will be a great sorcerer in disguise.
True,however the first beast is a system,the 2nd beast is satan,as well
 

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Maybe I should have clarified what I meant by him not being human. I just don't like repeating myself. I'm not referring to a system, I'm referring to the individual called "the Antichrist". The Antichrist of the great tribulation is an angel called Apollyon. He is clearly identified as the beast that ascends out of the pit who will make war with the saints, make outrageous claims against the God of gods, perform miracles, and rule all for a time with an iron fist. And I'm referring to the first beast, it never states who the second beast is supposed to be.
Daniel's prophesies are very clear in Daniel 2 and 7...it is a very good description of the Roman religious system...as Daniel says it will make war with the saints..or true followers of God..and it will change God's times and laws...that is exactly what the Roman religious system has done...killing of the true followers who would not joing the pagan based religious movement of Rome (the inquisitions and the crusades), and changing God's Holy days from the 7th day to the first day of the week (by papal decree only, without any Biblical authority or reference)and and abandonment and ignoring of God's law the ten commandments..unfortunately the protestant daughters (Revelation 17) did not go far enough from the mother church in Rome, and completely get back to the true teachings of God.
They all should remember;
salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 
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I think that in the future technology will be so advanced that humans will receive technological implants into their own bodies EX: the smart phones that we hold so dear and are so close to us already will get even closer when they become more advanced and are inserted right into our bodies. I believe that this will be the crossing of the line and it will be the mark of the beast. The fusion of man and his own creation.

Then technology will be so advanced that humans will be able to engineer a near human like being with real flesh that is just waiting for some soul to come and take it and the devil will do just that. Because of the technological implants planted into everyones body that will connect them all like a network, the antichrist will just come onto the scene and take control of all these people by basically being the king over technology because he himself is the epitome of it. I'm warning you people of God, use technology while you can but don't depend on it because it's going to turn around and bite you in the butt very soon. I hope you all know how to survive without it just in case, if you know what I am saying....
 

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Excellent read on the internet is the website titled...End time deceptions, the antichrist hidden in plain sight.It ties the Bible prophesies, with actual history, and leaves no doubt who satan's church is on planet earth...
 

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heretoeternity said:
Excellent read on the internet is the website titled...End time deceptions, the antichrist hidden in plain sight.It ties the Bible prophesies, with actual history, and leaves no doubt who satan's church is on planet earth...
You obviously haven't heard of or seen a real Satanic church, I wouldn't go that far if I were you, if you truly fear God, you would have heard the Pharisees in the NT, now what happened to them who accused Jesus of operating under another power other than the power of God? the Catholics are Christians too and are God's people. And it may be the same great sin calling the Catholic church such a thing and of where it gets it's powers from, I'm not here to judge though, just warning ya.
 

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Excellent read on the internet is the website titled...End time deceptions, the antichrist hidden in plain sight.It ties the Bible prophesies, with actual history, and leaves no doubt who satan's church is on planet earth...
Some anti-Catholics (like heretoeternity) claim the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 17 and 18. Dave Hunt, in his 1994 book, A Woman Rides the Beast, presents nine arguments to try to prove this. His claims are a useful summary of those commonly used by Fundamentalists, (like heretoeternity) and an examination of them shows why they don’t work.

Hunting the Whore of Babylon

In another tract, Hunting the Whore of Babylon, we looked at nine arguments given by fundamentalist Dave Hunt for his claim that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon from Revelation 17–18. His arguments (and heretoeternity) are typical of those used by fundamentalist anti-Catholics and are easily proven wrong. (See that tract for details).

But we can go beyond a mere critique of the shallow anti-Catholic arguments ( like heretoeternity's false references. )There is irrefutable evidence in Revelation 17–18 (the chapters Fundamentalists love to quote against the Catholic Church) that proves that it is impossible for the Catholic Church to be the Whore.
The Whore of Babylon

Will this change heretoeternity's whore-duh-babble-on obsession? Not likely. IMO, his level of anti-Catholic bigotry is a sickness. It's also an addiction. I call it spiritual pornography where the effects induce alterations in brain chemistry, and the viewer seeks stronger and stronger anti-Catholic hate. Like crack. Adrenaline rushes may also be involved. These people cannot be reasoned with, only the Holy Spirit can heal them. Hate becomes a religion, and this is the only explanation I can think of for false interpretations and chronic abuse of Rev. 17.
Please check the above links.


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Does this look like the whore-duh-babble-on???
 

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Read 2nd Thess 2.3&$, Daniel 7, Rev 13 and Rev 17&18 to see the Biblical perspective on the pagan based Roman religious system..the same institution that killed more people as "heretics" than all wars in history..all under the banner of "christianity" What kind of christianity is that? It's the kind that earns it the title Beast power, false prophet and antichrist in the Bible.
 

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heretoeternity said:
Read 2nd Thess 2.3&$, Daniel 7, Rev 13 and Rev 17&18 to see the Biblical perspective on the pagan based Roman religious system..the same institution that killed more people as "heretics" than all wars in history..all under the banner of "christianity" What kind of christianity is that? It's the kind that earns it the title Beast power, false prophet and antichrist in the Bible.
As i said i would watch out if i were you, this dangerous obsession you have against the Catholic church may eventually lead to the unforgivable sin blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, if you truly fear the Lord i would stop. You are so concerned about your Sabbath keeping, yet you show no fear in making your false accusations about the Catholic Church bowing to the devil, have you ever considered what harsh words you could be speaking against the Holy Ghost, you could be putting your salvation on the line, if i were you i would stop before it's too late, none of what you say about the Catholic church is true, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ, they too are Christians, they too bow to the true living God. Is it really worth the risk of speaking against the Holy Ghost? For you the Bible alone may not be enough to get you into heaven, you are making dangerous false accusations against the Catholics and the Holy Ghost and it's getting dangerously close to what the Jews said about Jesus.
 
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Josho said:
As i said i would watch out if i were you, this dangerous obsession you have against the Catholic church may eventually lead to the unforgivable sin blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, if you truly fear the Lord i would stop. You are so concerned about your Sabbath keeping, yet you show no fear in making your false accusations about the Catholic Church bowing to the devil, have you ever considered what harsh words you could be speaking against the Holy Ghost, you could be putting your salvation on the line, if i were you i would stop before it's too late, none of what you say about the Catholic church is true, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ, they too are Christians, they too bow to the true living God. Is it really worth the risk of speaking against the Holy Ghost? For you the Bible alone may not be enough to get you into heaven, you are making dangerous false accusations against the Catholics and the Holy Ghost and it's getting dangerously close to what the Jews said about Jesus.
Indeed!
I've had a quick look at one of the websites heretoeternity recommended. It's total garbage.

Gullible people look at this kind of stuff, suspend their critical faculties, and lap it up.

Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to engage heretoeternity in a rational discussion.
 
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