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We are told in scripture to try the spirits because many false prophets have gone out into the world. We are also told that a false prophet is one that denies Christ came.

I believe the beast and false prophet relate to denying God and could manifest in governments.
 
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Matthew 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

There is only one God, the creator of the Universe and the life upon it. And he is proven to exist by the eye witness accounts recorded in the Bible and proven to exist thru Jesus the Christ. What other religion has proof?
 
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We are told in scripture to try the spirits because many false prophets have gone out into the world. We are also told that a false prophet is one that denies Christ came.

I'm looking at the media empire and the schools and governments of the US and UK and I am noticing the beast that follows the false prophet. We see threats of arrest for speaking out against the homosexual movement. The general promotion of Buddhist ways in the media, like meditation, yoga and other religions and ways to find inner peace. The directing away from Christianity in some portions of law and government because Christianity opposes homosexuality and other sins. It's all over the news in the UK and the USA, the western world is being lead astray. The attack against our children is in the media too. It is attempting to promote them against their Christian parents to defy them. It has slyly this way for many years now.

The list goes on and on. And all of this boils down to denying Christianity to promote this UN new world order of all the countries and to change any country that doesn't comply. @amigo de christo perhaps you might like this thread. As a push to unify the countries to accept all religions of the world except those that discourage homosexuality.

It is clear that the false prophets are working on that goal, of destroying Christian values in the children and peer pressuring children into this acceptance of the new world order and eastern religions. And the beast will follow the false prophet straight into the judgments of God which is hell.

I don't believe a lot of the tripe that is posted about the beast and false prophet or the new world order. I see it for what it is and I see the truth of it.
The UN drafted plans long ago for this New World Order. If you listen to Walter Chronkite's speech in 1999 to the Counsel On Foreign Relations, he lays out their goals: World Peace, Get rid of poverty and this by the way of relinquishing each nation's sovereignty. He said Americans would not take this easily, that it would be a hard pill to swallow.
They present the New World Order as something that is essential, necessary for life to continue; but they leave out the horrible reality underneath. The fact is, they cannot create world peace with their plan, it's an illusion. With sin in the world, we can't have peace. We can have spiritual peace in Christ. But not until Christ rids the planet of sin and evil will there be peace on earth!

But let's examine their godless logic:
In 70 years the world population has tripled. We must stop this progression, since if left to us being fruitful and multiplying, in 70 years there would be 24 billion. This, they see as the big problem. The earth and its resources could not provide for that many people andnit's suffering with this current population. So even decades before that, they started working on population growth: abortions became legal in 1974. That has decreased population in the USA by 15%. That isn't enough though. All sorts of birth control became available. Believe it or not, vaccines sterilize and are becoming a way of permanent birth control. Do you know that in medical history, there is not one case of a person dying of Tetanus. Actually if a pregnant woman gets a Tetanus shot, she will certainly have a miscarriage. If a pregnant woman in her first trimester gets a Covid shot, she'll likely have a miscarriage. Tens of thousands did and this was swept under the carpet. My take on this Covid vaccine when given to young children, translates into sterization for many of them. We will see teenage pregnancy slow dastically in the coming years - then we'll know.
Still, not enough control, they need more. Actually, the Elites in charge of this movement (Klaus Schwab, Rothschilds, Gates, Soros, King Charles ...), believe that this world should only have less than 1 billion to comfortably sustain its population at our standard of living. Currently 8 billion cannot live at the USA standard. Hence to depopulate is the only way, by preventing and restricting people from having babies and killing them off
So what else? Gee gays don't procreate, so why not promote homosexuality. Just around 1974, things changed. Before that, it was considered mental disorder in Psychiatry. Now it's accepted, gay marriage legal. But records showed that there were maybe 2-3% that went that way. That's not enough, so they are indoctrination our young children with transgenderism. "Choose your sex if you feel like you are different". Then they get the parents on board, approve hormone therapy, sex change operations, sterization, before the child matures and understands what life is about. Later 95% of these children change their minds, but then it's too late - they can never have kids. So that will add a few more percent. What else can they do? Well China tried to limit 1 child per family and when a girl came along, they would abort it. That didn't work well for them, their is a shortage of girls to go around but hey, they got a large military.
What else? Euthanasia. Let's get rid of old people, they are no longer productive and social security and Medicare is about ready to go bust.
What else? I have heard that this 5G technology coupled with the nano tech vaccines can actually kill people? They are beginning to push the Covid shot again, but who knows what's in it? Could be more deadly. And the Global Warming decree is just a diquuse fir global governance, to get all the countries signed on. This is fascism, dictatorship, socialism ... these forms if givernment neverbwork, they never have. The people on top are rich and the rest of us lose our freedoms and become slaves.
There's more, but that's enough for now.

No worries, God will shortly intervene and destroy this NWO that we are already experiencing.
 

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The UN drafted plans long ago for this New World Order. If you listen to Walter Chronkite's speech in 1999 to the Counsel On Foreign Relations, he lays out their goals: World Peace, Get rid of poverty and this by the way of relinquishing each nation's sovereignty. He said Americans would not take this easily, that it would be a hard pill to swallow.
They present the New World Order as something that is essential, necessary for life to continue; but they leave out the horrible reality underneath. The fact is, they cannot create world peace with their plan, it's an illusion. With sin in the world, we can't have peace. We can have spiritual peace in Christ. But not until Christ rids the planet of sin and evil will there be peace on earth!

But let's examine their godless logic:
In 70 years the world population has tripled. We must stop this progression, since if left to us being fruitful and multiplying, in 70 years there would be 24 billion. This, they see as the big problem. The earth and its resources could not provide for that many people andnit's suffering with this current population. So even decades before that, they started working on population growth: abortions became legal in 1974. That has decreased population in the USA by 15%. That isn't enough though. All sorts of birth control became available. Believe it or not, vaccines sterilize and are becoming a way of permanent birth control. Do you know that in medical history, there is not one case of a person dying of Tetanus. Actually if a pregnant woman gets a Tetanus shot, she will certainly have a miscarriage. If a pregnant woman in her first trimester gets a Covid shot, she'll likely have a miscarriage. Tens of thousands did and this was swept under the carpet. My take on this Covid vaccine when given to young children, translates into sterization for many of them. We will see teenage pregnancy slow dastically in the coming years - then we'll know.
Still, not enough control, they need more. Actually, the Elites in charge of this movement (Klaus Schwab, Rothschilds, Gates, Soros, King Charles ...), believe that this world should only have less than 1 billion to comfortably sustain its population at our standard of living. Currently 8 billion cannot live at the USA standard. Hence to depopulate is the only way, by preventing and restricting people from having babies and killing them off
So what else? Gee gays don't procreate, so why not promote homosexuality. Just around 1974, things changed. Before that, it was considered mental disorder in Psychiatry. Now it's accepted, gay marriage legal. But records showed that there were maybe 2-3% that went that way. That's not enough, so they are indoctrination our young children with transgenderism. "Choose your sex if you feel like you are different". Then they get the parents on board, approve hormone therapy, sex change operations, sterization, before the child matures and understands what life is about. Later 95% of these children change their minds, but then it's too late - they can never have kids. So that will add a few more percent. What else can they do? Well China tried to limit 1 child per family and when a girl came along, they would abort it. That didn't work well for them, their is a shortage of girls to go around but hey, they got a large military.
What else? Euthanasia. Let's get rid of old people, they are no longer productive and social security and Medicare is about ready to go bust.
What else? I have heard that this 5G technology coupled with the nano tech vaccines can actually kill people? They are beginning to push the Covid shot again, but who knows what's in it? Could be more deadly. And the Global Warming decree is just a diquuse fir global governance, to get all the countries signed on. This is fascism, dictatorship, socialism ... these forms if givernment neverbwork, they never have. The people on top are rich and the rest of us lose our freedoms and become slaves.
There's more, but that's enough for now.

No worries, God will shortly intervene and destroy this NWO that we are already experiencing.
I can follow some of what you posted. But I don't believe the government is intentionally promoting depopulation if they did they wouldn't have forced vaccines and masks on us in an attempt to save lives thru the pandemic. And I don't believe the accusation against vaccines. That sounds like extremist Christianity which I don't follow.
 
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Matthew 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The atheist aligned leaders will have their day while here on the earth as the rich, famous and some of them because of that leaders of the people. They will be brought low in the kingdom of God if they make it there. They will be called the least and made into a humble stature unless they repent.

There is only one God, the creator of the Universe and the life upon it. And he is proven to exist by the eye witness accounts recorded in the Bible and proven to exist thru Jesus the Christ. What other religion has proof?
They went about this huge in the latter nineties . This is when they began to push transformation into one religion
They knew what they were and are doing . To mold the religons and world to be as one
they had to find out what they had in common and remove fundamental core truths which divide them .
So they went about this devin . They found a type of love that all can connect too , one that entails good works
and helping the poor and yet all the while this love denies the LOVE of GOD . It removes
barriers that divide , aka sound doctrine that divides .
Cause no way will religoins unite in they hold too fundamental beliefs . You have to remove the beleifs .
make them seem in the way and focus more on just doing some good works .
This was the goal and it did work . Now over seventy percent of christendom believes GOD is fine with all religoins
WELL so long as the religion is all inclusive and not fundamental in beliefs .
Cause that gets in the way . THEY preached a religoin which actually is a mindset that serves the actual agenda .
They were slick my friend . But the lambs wont heed them . WE FOLLOW CHRIST .
They were slick on how they went about it my friend . Cause they preached do good
but slowly removed the dire necessity of having to BELIEVE .
Now we see a table that all can sit under , a love of the world which all can relate too and call love .
OH it aint love at all but the world sees this as love . They knew how to unify the peoples to be as ONE .
But it wont work on the lambs . the lambs sit under CHRIST .
 
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I can follow some of what you posted. But I don't believe the government is intentionally promoting depopulation if they did they wouldn't have forced vaccines and masks on us in an attempt to save lives thru the pandemic. And I don't believe the accusation against vaccines. That sounds like extremist Christianity which I don't follow.
It is a hard pill to swallow. Would you believe the government is involved in human trafficking, drugs like fentanyl, allowing them free passage over the border? More population control that I didn't get to.
 

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It is a hard pill to swallow. Would you believe the government is involved in human trafficking, drugs like fentanyl, allowing them free passage over the border? More population control that I didn't get to.
Luckily the country is still 63% Christian, which has gone down over the years I'm sure. But I looked and Muslim and Buddhists make up about 2% so the rest must be atheist. I would think the attacks against Christianity are to promote an atheist government. Judaism is 1.6%.

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I can follow some of what you posted. But I don't believe the government is intentionally promoting depopulation if they did they wouldn't have forced vaccines and masks on us in an attempt to save lives thru the pandemic. And I don't believe the accusation against vaccines. That sounds like extremist Christianity which I don't follow.
Not only are they , they are preparing the masses to embrace it . look at some of the lectures occuring
they are promoting fear into people through climate change and etc and saying things like over population .
Bringing up ideals about population control . Some popular ones have even lectured
about a vaccine that could cut the population . And worse the peoples attending these lectures
were cheering . No they are getting us ready to be willing . They never just go out and do
they first prepare the minds so at least big enough percentage will first accept the idea .
As far as them caring for us , They do not my friend .
I understand why this is hard for you to see .
They always act like this is the best for us when in truth its just a means to control the people .
What did their tactics actually accomplish .............
They almost got a passport ideal in place . Just watch what they will do through climate change
and more fear . They talk big about this great digital system which they claim is BEST for us .
Examine it please . ITS BEST FOR THEM devin . Under that kind of system
I promise if one does not conform to it , THEY TRULY can be shut out , no buy and no sell .
They do not care about us . THEY act like they do .
Now i aint talking about the regular folks like doctors and etc
I am talking about the ONES who really are running the show and making the suggestions .
Truly what is going on is that the world has shunned GOD
and the dragon has run amuck creating and convincing people to create sie order of the beast .
That is what is going on . To gather the world as one . To unify the world and her relgions as one
and to make ready a people and a system for the beast . THAT is what is going on right there .
 
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Luckily the country is still 63% Christian, which has gone down over the years I'm sure. But I looked and Muslim and Buddhists make up about 2% so the rest must be atheist. I would think the attacks against Christianity are to promote an atheist government. Judaism is 1.6%.

Christianity in the United States - Wikipedia
Islam in the United States - Wikipedia
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You mean sixty three percent of the nation STILL IDENTIFIES as christain .
That dont make them christain . OUT of those sixty three i would dare to say a very high percentage is already all inclusive
believing GOD is fine with ALL religoins . the motto today has become love , only IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
 
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Not only are they , they are preparing the masses to embrace it . look at some of the lectures occuring
they are promoting fear into people through climate change and etc and saying things like over population .
Bringing up ideals about population control . Some popular ones have even lectured
about a vaccine that could cut the population . And worse the peoples attending these lectures
were cheering . No they are getting us ready to be willing . They never just go out and do
they first prepare the minds so at least big enough percentage will first accept the idea .
As far as them caring for us , They do not my friend .
I understand why this is hard for you to see .
They always act like this is the best for us when in truth its just a means to control the people .
What did their tactics actually accomplish .............
They almost got a passport ideal in place . Just watch what they will do through climate change
and more fear . They talk big about this great digital system which they claim is BEST for us .
Examine it please . ITS BEST FOR THEM devin . Under that kind of system
I promise if one does not conform to it , THEY TRULY can be shut out , no buy and no sell .
They do not care about us . THEY act like they do .
Now i aint talking about the regular folks like doctors and etc
I am talking about the ONES who really are running the show and making the suggestions .
Truly what is going on is that the world has shunned GOD
and the dragon has run amuck creating and convincing people to create sie order of the beast .
That is what is going on . To gather the world as one . To unify the world and her relgions as one
and to make ready a people and a system for the beast . THAT is what is going on right there .
I don't follow those ideas. I look for a more truthful depiction of the government. Perhaps population control is more along the same lines as China supporting abortion.
 
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You mean sixty three percent of the nation STILL IDENTIFIES as christain .
That dont make them christain . OUT of those sixty three i would dare to say a very high percentage is already all inclusive
believing GOD is fine with ALL religoins . the motto today has become love , only IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
So you think you are among the few, the proud, the real Christians. Interesting but I'm not that judgmental to call the general population fake Christians. I don't believe in a church that doesn't adhere to the bible though either.
 
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You mean sixty three percent of the nation STILL IDENTIFIES as christain .
That dont make them christain . OUT of those sixty three i would dare to say a very high percentage is already all inclusive
believing GOD is fine with ALL religoins . the motto today has become love , only IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
I don't know what the numbers are. Twenty years ago they said 39% attended church regularly, I was one of them, but don 't now. So I think there could be that many Americans who believe in Christ. Atheism and the theory of evolution has been promoted since Darwin; but the percentage of atheist has stayed around 10% for over hundred years. Even though they teach it in school, it hasn't thwarted God's plan to save. He is sovereign, so who He has in mind to save, will be saved regardless what they teach. Christianity is growing. In 1900 there were 500 million, now there are 2.65 billion. There are 100 million in China and 100 million in India. All the names in Book of Life are being accounted for. I think 1/3 of the population will be saved. Maybe more?
The One World Government was prophesied so we can't change what is inevitable, just not go along with it ... til death do us part.
 
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I don't follow those ideas. I look for a more truthful depiction of the government. Perhaps population control is more along the same lines as China supporting abortion.
And what is a more truthful depiction of govt to you . THAT IS THE QUESTION MY FRIEND .
answer freely now . Are you looking more for what YOU already BELIEVE about govt
or are you looking for the truth .
These questions are not an accusation .
As far as govt lets look at a recent example .
MANY accusations were coming against china . MANY hollered how dare thee create such a system
wherein men and women are judged based upon a score that govt deems as good .
YET ALL the while these SAME FOLKS were and DO SUPPORT the very digital system
MAKE the very same attacks against those who conform NOT TO THEIR OWN AGENDA .
DEVIN WE ARE BEING FOOLED HUGE .
THEY say as they say to make themselves appear to be AGAINST such things
and yet WHILE THIS BRINGS MEN TO TRUST IN THEM , THEY DOING AND WILL DO THE SAME THING .
The approach might be different but the result WILL and IS THE SAME .
THEY TOO hollered WE MUST FREE UKRAINE from the oppression of the evil govt of RUSSIA
who is doing all to take away the freedom and libery of UKRAINE
AND YET THEY DO THE SAME HERE BUD ROW . This lamb AINT as dumb as folks think .
THE SOONER WE LEARN MEN CANNOT BE TRUSTED . THE SOONER WE LEARN
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . THE BETTER OFF WE GONNA BE . now if you have a question
about LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . FEEL FREE TO ASK .
 
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I don't know what the numbers are. Twenty years ago they said 39% attended church regularly, I was one of them, but don 't now. So I think there could be that many Americans who believe in Christ. Atheism and the theory of evolution has been promoted since Darwin; but the percentage of atheist has stayed around 10% for over hundred years. Even though they teach it in school, it hasn't thwarted God's plan to save. He is sovereign, so who He has in mind to save, will be saved regardless what they teach. Christianity is growing. In 1900 there were 500 million, now there are 2.65 billion. There are 100 million in China and 100 million in India. All the names in Book of Life are being accounted for. I think 1/3 of the population will be saved. Maybe more?
The One World Government was prophesied so we can't change what is inevitable, just not go along with it ... til death do us part.
I have no idea how much or what percentage of the world will be saved . You might be right .
You might be wrong .
All i know is THE ONLY ONES GONNA BE SAVED are those who TRULY BELIEVED IN JESUS CHRIST .
As i am sure YOU WILL AGREE WITH THAT my dear friend .
But since we are on the topic of BELEIVING IN JESUS , for we both KNOW THAT ALONE saves and that one is saved
soley BY the Grace of GOD , do allow me some parting words .
IF ONE FOLLOWS another jesus , THEY DAMNED .
And if we think its not possible to be following another jesus or another gospel , WHY DID PAUL WARN OUT AGAINST IT .
IT IS possible . And many DO follow another jesus and gospel . NEITHER OF WHICH WILL SAVE THEM .
Satan does not sleep but ROAMS and HE DECIEVES and has many men doing his work , and WITHIN CHRISTENDOM TOO .
SO my question is , are we following JESUS , IT IS JESUS WE TRULY BELIEVE IN
OR is it another jesus with a BROAD ROAD TO GOD , a false love to GOD , a preacher of SIN that we do follow .
IF SO , WE FOLLOW SATAN not CHRIST . I have to keep it simple and real . I have seen far too many
following WHO and what THEY THINK IS JESUS CHRIST , only ITS THE DEVIL HIMSELF .
SO i offer up one suggestion to all . And its more than a suggestion , ITS AN ALL OUT PLEA ,
GET IN THOSE BIBLES FOR YOURSELVES and SEE EXACTLY WHAT JESUS WE BEEN FOLLOWING .
 
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So you think you are among the few, the proud, the real Christians. Interesting but I'm not that judgmental to call the general population fake Christians. I don't believe in a church that doesn't adhere to the bible though either.
Pegged me wrong again my friend . I aint the PROUD Ones . THE PROUD ones are the ones
who contradict JESUS , HIS words , HIS TEACHINGS , fall for a false love
accept sins and call some sins good or love . THEY The ones in REBELLION against GOD and HIS CHRIST .
And they real easy to spot my friend . Ye know them by their love by their fruits .
IF EITHER ONE accepts SINS and lies and contradicts CHRIST OR GOD , THEY FALSE my friend .
But out of great love i shall correct . I mean if we LOVE dont we desire LIFE and not death for folks .
FOLLOWING a false love is death . FOLLOWING CHRIST IS LIFE . THAT IS LOVE .
SEE LOVE PUTS JESUS , GOD above all , NOT HUMANITY FIRST . GOD FIRST .
And i think , HECK NO , I KNOW ITS HIGH TIME FOLKS LEARN that my friend .
cause this voo doo caca experssion of love i see most teaching is nutting more but mushroom love
IT IS KEEPING FOLKS IN THE DARK and FEEDING LOTS OF BULL to said folks . I WONT TOLERATE IT one second .
I have come to preach JESUS and BIBLICAL DOCTRINE . HE ALONE is the only hope one has .
 
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:running:Flee from the chambers of a harlot . Let us embrace CHRIST and all sound biblcal holy and pure doctrine .
Now lift those hands and praise and thank the glorious LORD .
 
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"Who the beast and false prophet really are."

From Rev 13:

The ten horned beast is a kingdom, composed of ten smaller kingdoms that exist within 7 mountains (areas of land like continents). Daniel also wrote of a ten horned beast but it was also a kingdom, not a person.

The other beast is a person, one who performs miracles to deceive people just as Paul wrote that the man of sin also would do. Same person also called the antichrist. Neither Paul nor any other biblical writing spoke of the AC and some other guy helping him.
 

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All i know is THE ONLY ONES GONNA BE SAVED are those who TRULY BELIEVED IN JESUS CHRIST .
Amen
SO my question is , are we following JESUS , IT IS JESUS WE TRULY BELIEVE IN
The only Jesus I know is the Jesus of the Bible: Our Savior, The Messiah, Son of God, the Bread of Life, the Way, the Truth, the Door, the Alpha and Omega, the Vine, the Resurrection and the Life, the Good Shepherd, the Word, Who is God, Who became flesh and dwelt among us, the Creator, our Lord.
 
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The answer to this question is really simple. They are all wicked, rebelling, and fallen angels. I know this because the bible tells me so.