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I'm seriously considering becoming Catholic. Would that make me bad? I mean, I know I'm not good, but would that make me worse than I am now?
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Catholics Bow down to the pope. That is an abomination to do that!!! We will never bow down to any Earthly man! Jesus Christ is the Only one!!!!Why are Catholics bad? Everyone says they are, but I see no logical or scriptural reasoning behind it. Give me some instead of just saying that there a cult or something.
''Catholics Bow down to the pope. That is an abomination to do that!!! We will never bow down to any Earthly man! Jesus Christ is the Only one!!!!
You have no idea at all and that is just slander you are fishing.Catholics Bow down to the pope. That is an abomination to do that!!! We will never bow down to any Earthly man! Jesus Christ is the Only one!!!!
The OP chose a very poor subject title for this thread. "Why is Catholicism so bad?" would have been a far better title. Moderators, is there any way to change the title of a thread?
Though I have been one of the harshest critics of Catholicism in this thread, I unabashedly profess that there are many good Catholic brethren. I voted for Patrick J. Buchanan twice for President of the United States over his Protestant candidates. I also highly admired the late journalist, writer and absolutely brilliant social commentator with the National Review, Joe Sobran. The theological writings of G.K. Chesterton and speeches of Father Charles Coughlin and Bishop Fulton Sheen were also superb.
There's nothing wrong IMO with Catholics that a careful study of the Word of God can't cure.
Why are Catholics bad? Everyone says they are, but I see no logical or scriptural reasoning behind it. Give me some instead of just saying that there a cult or something.
Why are Catholics so bad?
In Revelation Two, Jesus speaks about a class of people, who dominate and oppress the body; "Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."; and again in verse 15:
Revelation 2:15
"So you also have some who in the same way hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans." He goes on to say that He will make war against them." Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth. ".
Jesus does not hate, or reject those in bondage to deception, but does hate the teaching and the deeds of that teaching. Catholic people are in bondage, much the same way that Islam, Buddhism or Hinduism enslaves the billions; by presenting a crooked way to God as the Truth, and creating a rigid and exclusive dogma to reinforce it. This causes peoples to believe a lie, act on a lie, and thereby be lost. Jesus came to set the captives free. [ Isaiah 61 ]
Boiling down the many heresies of the RCC is quite a job, like shaking a stick at the wall; Where do you start? First, the title of the Pope; VICAR, along with the doctrine [ teaching ] of the catechisms [ written doctrines and values] means that he is the sole ambassador , and acting head of Christ on Earth; he claims, and is reinforced to be infallible, just like Jesus, and Catholic really means Universal....so, the Pope sees himself, as do other devout Catholics, as the unique and elite, SOLE head of the Holy church on the Earth.
If you cannot believe a system could be so immensely arrogant, and serious about this, read Foxes book of Martyrs. Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, were butchered and murdered cruelly because they rejected this office as their head in Christ. Then, by empirical manifestation of that power, we see a vast hierarchy that likewise must enforce this hideous lie of the power and position of the Pope; the Cardinals, the Bishops, the Fathers and the mothers, and the tentacles of various arms that constantly pursue more. It is wicked, insidious, and murderous; It cannot be of God. It is Satan's machinery for sure; the fruit cries out.
Add to this the Mediatrix, the Power of the One who touches God in human form. It is not Jesus who forever intercedes, and interacts in the affairs of men, it is a mortal who became immortal, Mother Mary, the "Mother of God herself". Must we believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God, or this profane, superstitious dogma, contrived by power hungry despots? This, we must all decide. Can you say that the veneration worship of Mary as the Mediator is profane, and that as the "Queen of Heaven, in usurping Jesus's rightful place as the King of glory, that she is nothing more than a devil. When you honor Mary in this way, and pray and honor her, you honor Jezebel; Astarte, the Demon queen of Heaven herself.
It is starkly unbiblical, and wicked, and at the heart of what Babylon really is; the worship of the host of fallen Heaven; the ancient system of demon worship contrived by Satan through Nimrod from Millenia past.
Add to this the magic act of the Priest class to have the sole power to turn the wine into real blood and the wafer into real skin and bones of the Lord Jesus, and the ever bleeding Lamb of God on the crucifix, who eternally bleeds for you and me.......[ He is not risen?]...and the veneration of the demon idols, on and on and on.....and you have the largest, most enslaving cult in the history of Mankind. In all this, though, we must remember, that God so loved the world...and particularly Roman Catholics enslaved by the lies of their Nicolaitan Fathers; the Popery.
Rather than address the issues I have brought up, my Character is maligned, and ignorance, and twisted faith is implied. I am not necessarily interested in an informed discussion with a member of the Catholic Faith; they will come out of deception, or they will remain in it, but no human argument will set them, or you free. I am interested in aligning my discernment with the Holy Bible's doctrines that defies the tenants of Roman Catholicism more than any other; it is a religion that rejects the Word of God carte-blanche, and the Holy Spirit of God as Lord and sits defiant in wicked heresy as a norm, as I have stated in my first post.
If you, are them, have chosen to believe a lie, only the Holy Spirit may deliver you, and I simply am stating reality as I see it? So, do you venerate the Catholic Mary as the Mother of God, and do you pray to her, as an ever present one?..
"Hail Mary!"
Do you honor the Pope as the Vicar of Christ and the head of the Universal church, and there-by infallible in his judgments? Yes, or No! It is simple answer, and do you present yourself to men to absolve your sin? or do you present yourself to Jesus Himself by faith? Jesus and His Apostles preached these truths, and deferred from useless debates; they clung to the Word.
"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. Reject a factious man after a first and second warning." You obviously do not honor the Word of God over your belief system; I do. Bring the Holy word of God to me, that refutes one thing I have stated, and I will consider responding.
Your arrogant slander of me as to "seeking a reward to my vanity", and "my sought after applause", while totally ignoring the issues, which are indefensible for you in reality, and this belies your own animosity when confronted by truth; after all, this is only my opinion, according to my view of the Word of God.
If you remain in a system that denies God, and the Lordship of His Holy Son, in lieu of another counterfeit Lord, you will be lost.
Finally, you wrote;
" If you were serious about addressing these issues or even having a civil, mutually informed discussion with a member of the Catholic faith, you would not come to a conservative Protestant forum to do so." ...by????
Uhhh, Where would I then go, pray tell me. Perhaps I should go to THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY FORUM to post my protestant faith, and my views about Papal heresy? By the way, do you realize what PROTESTANT really means, and who? were these people protesting against when the WORD WAS COINED? They were protesting against the wicked Dominion of the Roman Catholic church.
"Anyone who has read Foxes Book of Martyrs, or similar historical records of the cruel persecutions endured by the Waldensians, the Huguenots and other Protestant reformers, will know that the Inquisition was anti-Christian. The Inquisition occurred at a time of blatant corruption, when priesthoods, bishoprics and even papal seats were bought and sold.
There were many ungodly men dominating all levels of leadership in the medieval Roman church. Far from the Inquisition being Christians persecuting non-Christians, the reality is that it was the very opposite. The Inquisition was an anti-Christian persecution of Protestant believers.........http://onceuponacross.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-every-christian-should-know-about.html
I am a conservative radical Christian, I hope, and am glad I am on a site that some agree.
BroT, that is a common thread here... to be labled as satan or unsaved because we dare to shine a light of reason upon those who have not gotten past their feelings.
[sub]Satan? Unsaved?
"All people who submit their minds / hearts / lives to Christ will be saved, even you Andy".........[ anonymous "advanced " member.][/sub]
[sub]No; All those born again by his Spirit the Second time, and have learned how to love by bearing good fruit to God, will be saved. The religious ones, "Protestant" or Catholic" alike, who justify themselves in any other way will be lost; Yes...saved or unsaved.[/sub]
[sub]"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again !"[/sub]
[sub]" The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”[/sub]
[sub]Those justified by mere canonized religion will sadly be lost.[/sub]
Why are Catholics bad? Everyone says they are, but I see no logical or scriptural reasoning behind it. Give me some instead of just saying that there a cult or something.
The teachings of Catholicism are bad.
Catholic people if they are born again are part of the church.
You should do some research into what Catholicism teaches. It will shock you.
Thanks, JLB