Apostle Paul's subject at the very start of 2 Thess.2 is about the coming of Christ and our gathering to Him. Then Paul was VERY specific that will not happen until 2 events happen first, the great falling away, and the revealing of the "man of sin" (Antichrist), which Paul also shows there that Jesus will destroy with the "brightness of His coming".
So don't try to tell me that 2 Thessalonians 2 chapter does not point to the time of Christ's coming and gathering of His Church. To say it doesn't is to LIE against Christ and that Scripture by His servant Apostle Paul.
As I said, the verses in 2 Thes 2 are talking about the gathering from heaven and earth that takes place at the 6th seal. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus returning for His bride prior to the seals being opened..........the pretribulation rapture.
Even the blind can find an acorn every once in a while. And he was not the first to predict the restoration of the nation of Israel. God did, through His Old Testament prophets. All one needed to do was simply read it.
Darby was obviously correct that Israel would be restored as a nation and that God would keep His promise to Israel. It's clearly written in the Word of God. I wonder why Augustine could not see it.
I consider E.W. Bullinger as a great Bible scholar, but even he succumbed to the false Pre-trib Rapture theory because it was a popular doctrine in his day of 1880's Britain. That doesn't mean he didn't do some excellent scholarly work on other Bible topics. So you're not really proving anything by trying to claim Darby was some sort of prophet of God.
Fact of the matter still is, that "day of Christ" is actually "day of the Lord", which is the last day of this world.
You telling me that the day of Christ is actually the day of the Lord changes nothing. I already know that. Since Christ comes BEFORE the day of the Lord at the 6th seal as He says and Christ returns from the marriage supper at the earth with the armies of Heaven, HE obviously comes twice..........and yet you see only one coming. That's puzzling. And we are not even talking about the coming BEFORE the seals are opened.
Yes, per Apostle Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, the dead in Christ rise first! That is pointing DIRECTLY to the day of the resurrection at the END of this world.
Even in the previous 1 Thess.4:15 verse, Paul says those of us still alive shall not precede (KJV "prevent") them which are asleep...
1 Thess 4:15-16
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
KJV
So you should try following what the actual 1 Thessalonians 4 Scripture says as written.
You are on the wrong playing field and then telling me what is going on during the game.
Let's get on the same field. Do you understand that Jesus comes at the 6th seal BEFORE the Day of the Lord? Or do you think Jesus does not come at the 6th seal and only comes at the end of the trumpets at the judgement?
The "day of the Lord" has EVERYTHING... to do with the day of Christ's future coming and GATHERING of His Church. And there is only ONE HARVEST by Christ Jesus at the end of this world, as written.
Again let's get on the same field. We are watching different games. When does the day of the Lord begin? At the 6th seal or after the 7th trumpet?
Now I'm well aware that your false pre-trib rapture doctors lie and try to say the "day of the Lord" happens PRIOR to the time of "great tribulation".
TOTALLY INCORRECT STATEMANT. The day of the Lord does not begin prior to the great tribulation. Now tell me. Does it begin at the 6th seal or at the end of the trumpets? Or at the end of the vials
But that's all they're doing is telling a big fat LIE against Christ and the Scriptures. And their idea on that is so... stupid, because Apostle Peter revealed in 2 Peter 3:10 that God's consuming fire is going to burn man's works off this earth on that "day of the Lord"!!!
So really, to follow those pre-trib rapture doctors, one has to... become blind and ignorant to God's Truth.
So when does the day of the Lord begin?