With So Many Denominations...
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It sounds like:
"You folks are a mess; you better hope I stay alive for a while."
This is real good stuff here. Eternal life begins now. Paul and Silas sang hymns as they lay (probably on their backs on a mud floor) in stocks. Joy in the Lord is where you make it!
Brakelite
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Mmm. Self governance. A whole lot could be said about that.
Stumpmaster
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Yeah, BarnyFife & all on this thread. Wow. What a fascinating topic to read up on.
I thoroughly enjoy researching the history and features of religious parties, cults, sects, denominations, movements, streams, paradigms, and persuasions.
Jer 5:30-31 "An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land: (31) The prophets prophesy falsely, And the priests rule by their own power; And My people love to have it so. But what will you do in the end?
Whenever the Holy Spirit directs me to serve Him by serving my fellows in some way, I do so knowing there will be elements of domination, intimidation, manipulation, and seduction to contend with. Even in so-called non-denominational contexts I have been in there has still been a tendency for some among their retinues to overemphasise what it is that sets their group apart from others, and to adhere to an established routine in association with a perceived authority-base.
Over the years I have occupied myself with the following passage in order to gain a better understanding of the dynamic of God's Ekklesia, and have arrived at the satisfactory belief which I am now attempting to persuade and indoctrinate everyone with, that despite the errors and inadequacies of denominational institutions, if the saints are being equipped, if the work of ministry is being achieved, and if the body of Christ is being edified, this is worthy and should be encouraged and supported.
Eph 4:11-16 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, (12) for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, (13) till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; (14) that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, (15) but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— (16) from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
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"bc i would much rather be 'out of the body' grooving in a cave with a pict somewhere" maybe lol
ha, ya!
OK. I meant it as a figure of speech, as in, I think it good we not . . . so, OK.
Much love!
And to cover their nakedness, what?
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." Gen 3:7
"Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them." Gen 3:21
What happened that Adam and his wife were clothed twice? First they clothed themselves and then God clothed them. Anything like that happening today? Are there any who clothe themselves and never take upon themselves the clothing which God is offering?
Are there then some who read the book, the Bible, and learn it as well as a man can with his carnal mind, and refuse to consider or accept the possibility that God may have more to offer... more than the letter of the Book? OSAS is one of the things that comes to mind, but it is certainly not the only clothing that man has put on or offered to others effectively bypassing God Himself... is it?
@bbyrd009 What again was Nehushtan? Do we see Nehushtan also in this?
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived." Num 21:8-9
"He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brazen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan." II Kings 18:4
Indeed, manna, or as Pontius Pilate put it, 'What is truth'?
I heard a preacher once say this, "Try an experiment . . . when you leave for lunch, come back clothed only in fig leaves. You won't feel very clothed, will you?"
Much love!
Permanent rebirth.
That's being clothed in Christ, I think.
I think that there are those who, having been clothed with skins, who then try to go back and add their fig leaves again.
Much love!
This inner man, I want to understand what you mean. This is the person who is born in this body of flesh, in our physical birth? The person we are inside at birth?
Much love!
Yes, having heard from God and having received His call... and then finding a comfortable pew so as never to walk forward again.
I see this more as having received righteousness from Christ, and then thinking that I can add something to it.
Much love!
This reminds me . . . a verse that says, walking in the Spirit . . . not sitting in the Spirit!
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