yes the royal priesthood
but Christ is not high priest in the royal priesthood but according to the order of Melchizedek
So there must be low priests of the same order
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yes the royal priesthood
but Christ is not high priest in the royal priesthood but according to the order of Melchizedek
So there must be low priests of the same order
You would? This is what it involves.
NUMBER ONE. Acts 2. men and brethren what shall we do. Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sin and you shall receive the holy spirit.
In other words, there is an entrance fee. It starts with repentance to deal with sin in your life. If you are an unbeliever, you will have sin so starting with repentance is essential as it means that is dealt with. Once you have repented, you can then have it washed away through baptism. That is total immersion in water.
Those two things open the door to the Holy Spirit of God to come into your life and take over. He will give you the power to live a sanctified and separated life.
NUMBER TWO. You have repented, been baptized and received the Holy Spirit, what comes next. You have become part of God's ecclesia, God's family, so you start meeting together and living like a family. You don't leave your existing family. What you do is meet from house to house each day with others who are part of God's ecclesia and take part in four things.
The first is teaching. We want you to know just how you live as a new believer so we will teach you how that is done. Those that have been with Jesus will teach you.
The second is fellowship. That is an important part of your growth as you can bounce things off each other and let everyone know how you are going on a day to day basis. You will learn a lot by doing this. And it helps to get to know each other in a more intimate way.
The third is eating together. Have a meal when you meet together. Everyone brings something to contribute to a meal. Having a meal is good because it opens the door to conversation.
The fourth thing is to pray together. Help one another by bearing one another's burdens in prayer. You will all have different things to deal with on a day to day basis so prayer is one way you can help each other overcome the issues you are confronted with.
yes the royal priesthood
but Christ is not high priest in the royal priesthood but according to the order of Melchizedek
So there must be low priests of the same order
There is an opposition in scripture for how you are applying Acts 2 to mean.
Acs 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Since there is only one gospel and it has to be the same to the Jews as it is to the Gentiles, are we misreading Acts 2?
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
These Jews had participated in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ because of unbelief. It was then they were pricked in their hearts & had asked Peter what they were to do. So in aligning with the same gospel to the Gentiles as being the same to the Jews preached by that same Peter, repenting from unbelief by believing in Him is how they had received the remission of sins too.
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
The interjection of water baptism in Acts 2:38 obscured how it was by repenting from unbelief by believing in Him was how the Jews had actually received the remission of sins too. Otherwise, the Gentiles was told differently by that same Peter on how to receive the remission of sins and it was by believing in Jesus Christ, and sure enough, they got the promise of the Holy Spirit and yet it was before water baptism.
So water baptism cannot have anything to do with the remission of sins but believing in Jesus Christ did, since there is only one gospel.
No, he stands alone.yes the royal priesthood
but Christ is not high priest in the royal priesthood but according to the order of Melchizedek
So there must be low priests of the same order
Peter himself said,
As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2:4-5
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1 Peter 2:9
Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
All this 'chatting' will not reveal the truth to you @theefaith. I know you think you already know but don't you ever wonder why you are so out of step with the rest of us. Is it us who are wrong or is it Catholics? Please search your soul and have the courage to bring this before God. I have asked people to do this before but they all say it is unfaithful to God to cast doubt on what they already believe. But God is big enough to want to help us so by asking you will lose nothing but may gain freedom.that’s correct for the royal priesthood
I’m am talking about the priesthood of Christ, high priest according to the order of Melchizedek
No, he stands alone.
For many months I argued with my Pentecostal friends that I didn't need full immersion as I had been baptised as a baby in the Anglican tradition.
And that is the very verse that removed that notion from me and caused me to leave the Anglican church and join a new testament church so I could obey God.
And those friends were the ones who held the towel for me as I came up out of the baptismal pool.
Whether or not full immersion is mentioned in the bible baptism certainly is and Jesus was baptised.where does scripture say immersion is required?
All this 'chatting' will not reveal the truth to you @theefaith. I know you think you already know but don't you ever wonder why you are so out of step with the rest of us. Is it us who are wrong or is it Catholics? Please search your soul and have the courage to bring this before God. I have asked people to do this before but they all say it is unfaithful to God to cast doubt on what they already believe. But God is big enough to want to help us so by asking you will lose nothing but may gain freedom.
Okay - I can see I will not convince you to even consider that there's a slight possibility that you may be misled, but I pray that the Holy Spirit himself will.truth must be revealed by Christ and taught by his apostles in holy church Matt 28:19-20
we Christians all have believed the same faith for 2000 yrs and for 1500 yrs before you’re errors were known
Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
That does not make it a requirement only a preferenceWhether or not full immersion is mentioned in the bible baptism certainly is and Jesus was baptised.
Whatever you say my friend, it will not convince me that my relationship with Jesus or my baptism at age 42 is not real. I stand firmly on the REAL ROCK. Not a man but God incarnate.That does not make it a requirement only a preference
The church that has authority from Christ teaches
Christian ritual of baptism:
Immersion, sprinkling, pour pure water over the forehead three time with the words, I baptize thee in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Spirit! Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19 Acts 2:38-39 Acts 8:36-38 Acts 22:16
1 Pet 3:21
Proper intention: to make a new creature in Christ, to put on Christ, initiation into the new covenant of grace
Matter: pure water
Form: the words
Thank you for sharing, but in context of Acts 22:1-16, Paul was sharing what had happened to him when he had eventually become a believer. The Lord had appeared to him on the road to Damascus.
Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. 9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. 10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
Noticed how the Lord did not say "Believe in Me.." or anything along the line of the gospel, but said go to Damascus and it will be told for him to do.
So when you quote that verse.... it goes to believing in the Lord by what? Calling on the name of the Lord to be saved for the washing away of His sins.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
When you align that verse for how the remission of sins or the washing away happens with the rest of scripture, then the only conclusion is believing in Jesus Christ is how one receives the remission of sins or the washing away of them with the automatic baptism with the Holy Ghost.
Titus 3: 4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Now if the washing of regeneration was done by getting ourselves water baptized, then it would not align with this scripture above for then, would it not be deem that getting water baptized is a work of righteousness which believers have done, if that was true? But it is not written so in scripture.