YES, Lord Jesus Christ DID Claim To Be GOD

[Aunty Jane]

Your false belief places you in the category of an Orthodox Jew, and NOT a Christian.

Did God appoint you as his judge of who is, and who is not, a “Christian”? I thought that was the role of his son who said all judging was given to the son (John 5:22)……be careful that you are not usurping an authority that is not yours to exercise.…lest you be judged yourself by the same criteria.

 

[Davy]

Did God appoint you as his judge of who is, and who is not, a “Christian”? I thought that was the role of his son who said all judging was given to the son (John 5:22)……be careful that you are not usurping an authority that is not yours to exercise.…lest you be judged yourself by the same criteria.

When someone denies... that Jesus Christ is "Emmanuel", "God with us", come in the flesh, per the simple Bible Scripture, then yes... all... true Christians have the right to call that one having the spirit of antichrist.

What does it mean IF... Jesus of Nazareth is NOT "The Christ", Immanuel, God with us, come in the flesh?

It would mean EVERYONE'S SALVATION through His Sacrifice on His cross is just bogus and false.

So how could ANY Bible-believing Christian NOT understand that? Have Satan's children crept into so many Christian Churches today that only a few of us still believe Jesus Christ is God having come in the flesh to die on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of those who BELIEVE?

 

[Aunty Jane]

When someone denies... that Jesus Christ is "Emmanuel", "God with us", come in the flesh, per the simple Bible Scripture, then yes... all... true Christians have the right to call that one having the spirit of antichrist.

OK let’s start there….what does “Immanuel” mean? Because that was not the name God’s son was known by. Mary was told to call him “Jesus”, (Yeshua) which means “Jehovah Is Salvation”.
It can be translated two ways from the Greek….”God with us” or “With us is God”…either way, this name is not saying Jesus is God, but that God would be “with“ his people by means of his son in the mission for which he “sent“ him. Did God send himself?
Since Jesus is called “God’s holy servant” (Acts 4:27)….can the Almighty God, Sovereign of the Universe become his own servant?
Jesus is also called our “High Priest”…can God be his own High Priest, which is also a role of service TO God, by his son, who is therefore not his equal.

Do you really “know” who God is?….and who the one he “sent” is (John 17:3)…..because if you don’t, then all you have been led to believe, has been in vain.

We do not have the right to judge anyone….Jesus will do that. What we can do is keep our heads about us and not allow judgmental comments to invite the same level of judgment on ourselves (Matt7:1-5)…..”let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and “let him who thinks he is standing, beware that he does not fall”. (1 Cor 10:12)

What does it mean IF... Jesus of Nazareth is NOT "The Christ", Immanuel, God with us, come in the flesh?

It would mean EVERYONE'S SALVATION through His Sacrifice on His cross is just bogus and false.

Who is saying that Jesus is “not the Christ”? Not us. There is no doubt that Jesus “came in the flesh”, but he didn’t have to be God in order to redeem mankind. All he needed to be was “sinless” like Adam.
Do you understand the mechanics of redemption as understood by the Jews who were Jesus’ exclusive audience? If you don’t know what redemption is based on, then it is you who believe what is bogus and false. Who told you that Christ had to be God in order to ransom the human race? It was an apostate church, not God or his son.

So how could ANY Bible-believing Christian NOT understand that? Have Satan's children crept into so many Christian Churches today that only a few of us still believe Jesus Christ is God having come in the flesh to die on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of those who BELIEVE?

Can an immortal God die?…that is the first question.

It’s true, as we gain knowledge of the scriptures and understand linguistics better in this 21st century, more and more are seeking answers to questions that they previously were discouraged from asking…..why? Because the churches had no answers except to make people feel bad for wanting to understand something that made no sense.
The “it’s a mystery“ rubbish just doesn’t wash anymore…..so unless you can provide something solid from the Bible by way of a direct statement confirming that Christ said that he was God Almighty, or that “God the Father” prayed to “God the Son” or that the Holy Spirit was ever called “God”…..instead of reading things into ambiguous verses that might suggest or imply what you have been led to believe.…you will have to do a lot better than the stuff you post as your ‘proof’……because on closer inspection, it proves nothing.

 

[Jack]

In Genesis 1:26, who is this GOD, talking to another person with HIM, "Let us make man in our image." ??

Since ONLY God is the Creator He is obviously talking the the Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Also repeatedly He stated, He is the Son, and claiming equality with the only true GOD.

God in the OT is said to be only one. "Our God,our God is one."

And God told us he is the only one,besides him there is no Savior.

Therefore, when the Savior came to this world per the New Testament, he was God.

 

[Traveler]

You have no clew what Jesus, "And yet...didn't go around saying...YOU WEREN'T THERE! Your antics aren't even humorous.

The original writers of the New Testament knew exactly who Jesus was and they did not believe he was his Father. This whole Jesus is God thing is another gospel that has entered.

When you pray you pray to God in Jesus name, you do not pray to Jesus. The Father is the one at the top. Jesus is the way to get to the Father.

 

[BlessedPeace]

OK let’s start there….what does “Immanuel” mean? Because that was not the name God’s son was known by. Mary was told to call him “Jesus”, (Yeshua) which means “Jehovah Is Salvation”.
It can be translated two ways from the Greek….”God with us” or “With us is God”…either way, this name is not saying Jesus is God, but that God would be “with“ his people by means of his son in the mission for which he “sent“ him. Did God send himself?
Since Jesus is called “God’s holy servant” (Acts 4:27)….can the Almighty God, Sovereign of the Universe become his own servant?
Jesus is also called our “High Priest”…can God be his own High Priest, which is also a role of service TO God, by his son, who is therefore not his equal.

Do you really “know” who God is?….and who the one he “sent” is (John 17:3)…..because if you don’t, then all you have been led to believe, has been in vain.

We do not have the right to judge anyone….Jesus will do that. What we can do is keep our heads about us and not allow judgmental comments to invite the same level of judgment on ourselves (Matt7:1-5)…..”let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and “let him who thinks he is standing, beware that he does not fall”. (1 Cor 10:12)

Who is saying that Jesus is “not the Christ”? Not us. There is no doubt that Jesus “came in the flesh”, but he didn’t have to be God in order to redeem mankind. All he needed to be was “sinless” like Adam.
Do you understand the mechanics of redemption as understood by the Jews who were Jesus’ exclusive audience? If you don’t know what redemption is based on, then it is you who believe what is bogus and false. Who told you that Christ had to be God in order to ransom the human race? It was an apostate church, not God or his son.

Can an immortal God die?…that is the first question.

It’s true, as we gain knowledge of the scriptures and understand linguistics better in this 21st century, more and more are seeking answers to questions that they previously were discouraged from asking…..why? Because the churches had no answers except to make people feel bad for wanting to understand something that made no sense.
The “it’s a mystery“ rubbish just doesn’t wash anymore…..so unless you can provide something solid from the Bible by way of a direct statement confirming that Christ said that he was God Almighty, or that “God the Father” prayed to “God the Son” or that the Holy Spirit was ever called “God”…..instead of reading things into ambiguous verses that might suggest or imply what you have been led to believe.…you will have to do a lot better than the stuff you post as your ‘proof’……because on closer inspection, it proves nothing.

Jesus is a Transliteration.

Yeshuah, translates to Joshua.

 

[Traveler]

When someone denies... that Jesus Christ is "Emmanuel", "God with us", come in the flesh, per the simple Bible Scripture, then yes... all... true Christians have the right to call that one having the spirit of antichrist.

What does it mean IF... Jesus of Nazareth is NOT "The Christ", Immanuel, God with us, come in the flesh?

It would mean EVERYONE'S SALVATION through His Sacrifice on His cross is just bogus and false.

So how could ANY Bible-believing Christian NOT understand that? Have Satan's children crept into so many Christian Churches today that only a few of us still believe Jesus Christ is God having come in the flesh to die on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of those who BELIEVE?

Jesus is called the king of Kings and the Lord of Lords. That is political authority. He rules over creation because his Father God placed him in that position, But God retains the position of the Judge over creation. When satan stands to accuse the saints Satan is making the accusation to God so that God will rule in the favor of Satan. It is Jesus who is our advocate that counters those charges by being the one that took our punishment in our place.

Because Jesus is our King we are able to operate in his name using his authority. But it is still God that remains as the final Judge over all. If you do not have a solid understanding of this concept then you are going to have a powerless walk in your spiritual life.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Jesus is called the king of Kings and the Lord of Lords. That is political authority. He rules over creation because his Father God placed him in that position, But God retains the position of the Judge over creation. When satan stands to accuse the saints Satan is making the accusation to God so that God will rule in the favor of Satan. It is Jesus who is our advocate that counters those charges by being the one that took our punishment in our place.

Because Jesus is our King we are able to operate in his name using his authority. But it is still God that remains as the final Judge over all. If you do not have a solid understanding of this concept then you are going to have a powerless walk in your spiritual life.

The Bible also says Jesus is the final judge.

 

[Fred J]

You don't fool me. You don't believe Jesus is co-equal with GOD The Father, as your statements obviously reveal it with the above.

Don't fool me either, did i say Jesus is not co-equal with the FATHER ?

Nevertheless, the Son is subjected to the FATHER, the second in-line.

Since, you're witnessing about the name, 'Emmanuel', meaning 'GOD with us'.

My question i repeat in other words again, 'GOD with us', did GOD the Son or GOD the FATHER, was with the Israelites that day ?

Your statement above is designed to mock any idea other than a One-Person GODHEAD which the deceived Jews only recognize, as they wholly reject any idea that Jesus of Nazareth, Who was born in the flesh, could be co-equal with GOD The Father.

Merely, you misunderstand and are confused about my witnssing.

Your false belief places you in the category of an Orthodox Jew, and NOT a Christian.

My, you just belittled your 'self', with that folly judgement.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Jesus is a Transliteration.

Yeshuah, translates to Joshua.

OK….I think we know that already…so what was your point?

 

[Truthnightmare]

Don't fool me either, did i say Jesus is not co-equal with the FATHER ?

Nevertheless, the Son is subjected to the FATHER, the second in-line.

Since, you're witnessing about the name, 'Emmanuel', meaning 'GOD with us'.

My question i repeat in other words again, 'GOD with us', did GOD the Son or GOD the FATHER, was with the Israelites that day ?

Merely, you misunderstand and are confused about my witnssing.

My, you just belittled your 'self', with that folly judgement.

My question i repeat in other words again, 'GOD with us', did GOD the Son or GOD the FATHER, was with the Israelites that day ?

Im thinking the Father..

 

[Aunty Jane]

God in the OT is said to be only one. "Our God,our God is one."

And God told us he is the only one,besides him there is no Savior.

Therefore, when the Savior came to this world per the New Testament, he was God.

Who told you that because some one is called a “savior”, he must be God?
A savior is someone who saves another from harm or disaster…..if we put that in a modern context, and someone makes a 911 call and the call centre dispatches an ambulance who keeps the patient breathing on route to the hospital and the doctors on the other end take the patient into the ER and perform CPR and bring the patient back to consciousness saving his life…..who is the savior there? The truth is they all are.
If God sent his son to save mankind then both are saviors.

Scriptural precedents?
In the past, men whom God used in freeing his people Israel from oppression were called saviors.
“Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judges 3:9) Then again we are told: “The sons of Israel began to call to Jehovah for aid. So Jehovah raised up for them a savior, Ehud.” (Judges 3:15)

Note that Othniel and Ehud were raised up by God as saviors, just as Jesus was. They were merely the agents through whom the great Savior, Jehovah, brought about liberation for his people.

You are reading into scripture things that are not there, and that are clearly explained in other portions of the Bible.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Who told you that because some one is called a “savior”, he must be God?
A savior is someone who saves another from harm or disaster…..if we put that in a modern context, and someone makes a 911 call and the call centre dispatches an ambulance who keeps the patient breathing on route to the hospital and the doctors on the other end take the patient into the ER and perform CPR and bring the patient back to consciousness saving his life…..who is the savior there? The truth is they all are.
If God sent his son to save mankind then both are saviors.

Scriptural precedents?
In the past, men whom God used in freeing his people Israel from oppression were called saviors.
“Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judges 3:9) Then again we are told: “The sons of Israel began to call to Jehovah for aid. So Jehovah raised up for them a savior, Ehud.” (Judges 3:15)

Note that Othniel and Ehud were raised up by God as saviors, just as Jesus was. They were merely the agents through whom the great Savior, Jehovah, brought about liberation for his people.

You are reading into scripture things that are not there, and that are clearly explained in other portions of the Bible.

You are not reading what is in Isaiah 43:11.
God is not a savior, as those described in your post.

God is the Savior.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Who told you that because some one is called a “savior”, he must be God?
A savior is someone who saves another from harm or disaster…..if we put that in a modern context, and someone makes a 911 call and the call centre dispatches an ambulance who keeps the patient breathing on route to the hospital and the doctors on the other end take the patient into the ER and perform CPR and bring the patient back to consciousness saving his life…..who is the savior there? The truth is they all are.
If God sent his son to save mankind then both are saviors.

Scriptural precedents?
In the past, men whom God used in freeing his people Israel from oppression were called saviors.
“Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judges 3:9) Then again we are told: “The sons of Israel began to call to Jehovah for aid. So Jehovah raised up for them a savior, Ehud.” (Judges 3:15)

Note that Othniel and Ehud were raised up by God as saviors, just as Jesus was. They were merely the agents through whom the great Savior, Jehovah, brought about liberation for his people.

You are reading into scripture things that are not there, and that are clearly explained in other portions of the Bible.

You are not reading what is in Isaiah 43:11.
God is not a savior, as those described in your post.

God is the Savior.

Isaiah is a unique book….

Notice…

Isa 42:13
13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies. (KJV)

 

[Fred J]

Since ONLY God is the Creator He is obviously talking the the Son and Holy Spirit.

Is not the Son the creator according to Colossians 1:16&17 ?

 

[Fred J]

God in the OT is said to be only one. "Our God,our God is one."

'GOD (the Father), who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by HIS Son, whom (the Son) HE (the FATHER) hath appointed heir of all things, by whom (the Son) also HE (the FATHER) made the worlds; .........................'

That's why in the OT HE is to the Israelites. "Our God our God is one.'

Hath in these last days HE spoke to the Israelites by HIS Son, heir of all things and made the worlds.

'Who (the Son) being the brightness of HIS (the FARHER's) glory, and the express image of HIS (the FATHER's) person, and upholding all things by the word of HIS (the FATHER's) power, ..................'

And God told us he is the only one,besides him there is no Savior.

The FATHER and Son are co-equally the Savior of the world.

'................................, when He (the Son) had by Himself purged our sins, .......................................'

Therefore, when the Savior came to this world per the New Testament, he was God.

He is God the Son, yet subjected to GOD the FATHER in Heaven.

 

[Traveler]

The Bible also says Jesus is the final judge.

Well please give us the chapter and verse, just don't quote what the Father said about himself, only what Jesus said. As far as I can tell Jesus will only be judging between the redeemed.

 

[Stumpmaster]

If “they knew” that, why didn’t they accuse Him of that at the Sanhedrin trial?

Joh 14:9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

The persecutors of Christ seized any opportunity they could to derail His Mission and destroy Him.

The Sanhedrin trial of Jesus was indeed a significant event in the New Testament. Let’s explore why it is considered legally questionable:

1. Origination of Charges:
   • The indictment against Jesus was illegal because the judges themselves brought up the charges without any prior testimony by witnesses.
   • According to Jewish law, the Sanhedrin was not allowed to originate charges; they were to rely on witness testimony.
2. Timing of the Trial:
   • The court proceeded to hold its trial of Jesus before sunrise, ensuring that no one would be available to testify on His behalf.
   • This timing was unlawful, as trials were typically conducted during daylight hours.
3. Quiet Defendant:
   • During the trial, Jesus remained generally quiet, not defending Himself or responding much to the accusations.
   • His silence was unusual and did not align with typical legal proceedings.
4. Charges Against Jesus:
   • Jesus was found guilty of several charges:
     • Violating the Sabbath law by healing on the Sabbath.
     • Threatening to destroy the Jewish Temple.
     • Practicing sorcery and exorcising people by the power of demons.
     • Claiming to be the Messiah.
   • Some of these charges were questionable and lacked proper evidence.
5. Subsequent Trials:
   • After the Sanhedrin trial, Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judaea, for further proceedings.
   • The entire process was marked by irregularities and haste.

In summary, the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus was marred by legal violations, making it a contentious and controversial event in Christian history1234. [Copilot Chatbot]

 

[Fred J]

Im thinking the Father..

It is GOD the Son Himself in spirit who was made flesh, and dwell among the Israelites. (John1:14)

At the same time, the Son Himself in spirit and flesh is, the brightness of the FATHER's Glory. And, the express image of the FATHER's person, and upholding all things by the word of FATHER's power.

The disciples all the while were with Jesus and knew Him as, 'Christ, Son of the living GOD'. And the Son also witnessed to them more about the FATHER in His ministry.

And came to the restlessness of the disciples, disciple Philip spoke up; 'It is enough, show us the FATHER already.'

So the answer is evident scripturally, the Son is in the FATHER and the FATHER is in the Son. The Son is one with the FATHER and the FATHER is one with the Son. The Son and FATHER are One.

Meaning, in 'oneness' and 'togetherness', while being two individuals co-equal. The FATHER who art in Heaven and in secret, while the Son the Lord from Heaven had come down to earth as the Savior.

'The Passover Lamb of GOD, who takes away the sins of the world.'