The Only Problem With The Trinity

[Wrangler]

The Father announced jesus!

The Father alone is identified as God many, many times. Not once is God identified as the Son or the Holy Spirit. It is more proper to say that God identified Jesus. In Mark 10:40, Jesus does not say Father but God - in his unitarian nature - decides who will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

I did not get the idea that God who is the Father alone cannot utter words. Rather another poster pretended the word of God is solely and uniquely attributed to the 1st century carpenter.

 

[Wrangler]

Of course you are wrong as I have shown you in multiple verses that you refuse to give any plausible defense against( because you cannot)

Wrong. I’m just not falling for your attempts at Diversion.

 

[theefaith]

The Father alone is identified as God many, many times. Not once is God identified as the Son or the Holy Spirit. It is more proper to say that God identified Jesus. In Mark 10:40, Jesus does not say Father but God - in his unitarian nature - decides who will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

I did not get the idea that God who is the Father alone cannot utter words. Rather another poster pretended the word of God is solely and uniquely attributed to the 1st century carpenter.

the divinity of Christ and the trinity and the mother of God are Christian doctrines so if you reject them you cannot be Christian!

 

[Wrangler]

the divinity of Christ and the trinity and the mother of God are Christian doctrines so if you reject them you cannot be Christian!

I'm OK with that! As another poster pointed out, Jesus did not teach the doctrine of the trinity. I'll just follow Christ and the Bible without imposing trinitarian doctrine onto the unitarian text. Call me what you will. Thanks. Peace.

 

[theefaith]

I'm OK with that! As another poster pointed out, Jesus did not teach the doctrine of the trinity. I'll just follow Christ and the Bible without imposing trinitarian doctrine onto the unitarian text. Call me what you will. Thanks. Peace.

where does the Bible or Christ tell you to do this
Or that you can decide doctrine?
Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 thee faith
You can’t have a private personal covenant

 

[Wrangler]

where does the Bible or Christ tell you to do this
Or that you can decide doctrine?

Friend, it is the precise opposite! Nowhere in the Bible is there a doctrinal purity test. You are just inventing it.

"If you don't believe X, you cannot call yourself Y." Go Z yourself.

 

[theefaith]

Friend, it is the precise opposite! Nowhere in the Bible is there a doctrinal purity test. You are just inventing it.

"If you don't believe X, you cannot call yourself Y." Go Z yourself.

eph 4:5 one Lord one faith one baptism

you cannot say it’s ok to be baptized ten times or in the Jordon when you go on pilgrimage to the holy land

 

[Wrangler]

eph 4:5 one Lord one faith one baptism

you cannot say it’s ok to be baptized ten times or in the Jordon when you go on pilgrimage to the holy land

How about if you worry about what you say.

Let those who have authority over me worry about what I and those who are not you say.

 

[theefaith]

How about if you worry about what you say.

Let those who have authority over me worry about what I and those who are not you say.

authority over you?

I thought it the “Bible alone” was you’re only authority?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Father alone is identified as God many, many times. Not once is God identified as the Son or the Holy Spirit. It is more proper to say that God identified Jesus. In Mark 10:40, Jesus does not say Father but God - in his unitarian nature - decides who will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

I did not get the idea that God who is the Father alone cannot utter words. Rather another poster pretended the word of God is solely and uniquely attributed to the 1st century carpenter.

You are just wrong as have been empirically proven time and time again!

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

John 1
King James Version

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,

Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

among many others! The bible unequivocally and unambiguously calls Jesus God! Now you should as well and strop this deception.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Wrong. I’m just not falling for your attempts at Diversion.

Yeah I know> It is terrible to divert you with gods word declaring Jesus is equal wi9th His Father, God with His Father etc.etc.etc. Buti divert I will because it is Scripture!

 

[Wrangler]

authority over you?

I thought it the “Bible alone” was you’re only authority?

Your posts are argumentative and do not reflect the glory of God. Worse, you do not have the humility to admit you do not have authority over me and many others.

 

[Wrangler]

You are just wrong as have been empirically proven time and time again!

Wrong. You desperately reach for any verse that you think “supports” your false doctrine while denying it fails to explicitly teach your false doctrine.

Again, the simple truth is the trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the doctrine.

 

[Wrangler]

It is terrible to divert you with gods word declaring Jesus is equal wi9th His Father

There is no such verse! There are verses where Jesus explicitly admits God is greater, know more, sent him, told him what to say, raised him from the dead, etc.

Jesus died. It’s one way to know he is not equal to God.

 

[theefaith]

Your posts are argumentative and do not reflect the glory of God. Worse, you do not have the humility to admit you do not have authority over me and many others.

how could I have any authority over you, I’m not an apostle

Your posts are argumentative and do not reflect the glory of God. Worse, you do not have the humility to admit you do not have authority over me and many others.

contend for thee faith Jude 1:3

 

[Wrangler]

how could I have any authority over you, I’m not an apostle

There is your sad lack of humility again.

My boss is not an apostle, yet he has authority over me.

contend for thee faith Jude 1:3

What an abuse of Scripture! Your lack of discernment is appalling, friend. The fruit of the Spirit is peace, brother, not argumentative. To struggle for the faith (contend) is NOT to be contentious!

The worst thing is that you do wrong and are self-righteous about it.

Friends, I have been trying to write you about our common salvation. But these days my heart is troubled, and I am compelled to write to you and encourage you to continue struggling for the faith that was entrusted to the saints once and for all
Jude 1:3 (The Voice)

 

[Wrangler]

among many others!

Not a one. You are aiming to manufacture your text by synthesizing it from many verses. You can "support" anything with this approach. This is why you cannot produce a single verse that explicitly teaches your doctrine. It does not exist. Instead you throw out many, hoping something sticks.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Wrong. You desperately reach for any verse that you think “supports” your false doctrine while denying it fails to explicitly teach your false doctrine.

Again, the simple truth is the trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the doctrine.

John 1:1
King James Version

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

that explicitly tells us that Jesus is God, because we know the Word is Jesus!

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

this verse explicitly tells us that Jesus was god manifest in the flesh.

Philippians 2:6
King James Version

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

This explicitly tells us that jesus existed in the form of God prior to His Incarnation

You are just wrong!

And I told you that the trinity is a coined word to describe the biblical truth.

hypostatic union, and incarnation do not appear in the bible either but they are words used to describe a biblical truth as well. Stop straining at gnats while swallowing a camel!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

There is no such verse! There are verses where Jesus explicitly admits God is greater, know more, sent him, told him what to say, raised him from the dead, etc.

Jesus died. It’s one way to know he is not equal to God.

Then you reject the bible. Because the bible EXPLICITLY says Jesus is equal to god, and that He physically died (not spiritually) and physically rose from the dead. Sorry you cannot accept Scripture when it bumps up against your failed finite human logic.

 

[Wrangler]

Again, the simple truth is the trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the doctrine.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

that explicitly tells us that Jesus is God, because we know the Word is Jesus!

You have no Earthly idea what explicit even means then. NOTE: The Holy Spirit absent?!

Jesus is not even in the sentence. Jesus is a person not an attribute of person. Read and understand 20:31 where John explicitly tells us everything he wrote was for a purpose other than to proof the trinity. So, you are going against St Johns own words in pretending 1:1 was to prove Jesus is God.