The problem with the thousand years?

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Outside of creation there is not physical nor spiritual GOD. GOD just is a being without a spiritual nor physical attribute, but inside of Creation GOD is the full Trinity. That is not being disrespectful, but idealistic.

Interesting thought, but, speaking of "unprovable", well, it's a very interesting thought!

Much love!

 

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Your Claim Is In "Error"

The Word (Thousand) represents (Uncertain Affinity) Not A Literal 1,000 Years As You Claim, Its Speaking Of The Lords Eternal Realm Of "No Time" Its That Simple

The Greek word "Chilioi" was used in 2 Peter 3:8 and in Revelation 20:1-7

The definition is (Uncertain Affinity) not a literal thousand years on this earth as many claim

Strong’s Definitions
χίλιοι chílioi, khil'-ee-oy; plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:—thousand.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 11x
The KJV translates Strong's G5507 in the following manner: thousand (11x).

Thousand = Uncertain Affinity

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-7KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

You must have posted this same post dozens of times.

You seem to get a lot from "Uncertain Affinity". Do you know what that refers to? It has nothing to do with the meaning of the word, only it's origin.

It's 1000 years, like, 2021, 2022, 2023, and so on, 997 more times.

Much love!

 

[Truth7t7]

You must have posted this same post dozens of times.

You seem to get a lot from "Uncertain Affinity". Do you know what that refers to? It has nothing to do with the meaning of the word, only it's origin.

It's 1000 years, like, 2021, 2022, 2023, and so on, 997 more times.

Much love!

You mean like those that claim (The Souls) and (The Dead) in Revelation 20:4-6 are on this earth in a Millennium "Big Smiles"!

It's a fabricated fairy tale of man, dont be deceived!

The Antichrit is going to Fulfill the Messiah to rule in a future Millennium, are you blind?

 

[Marty fox]

Matthew 24:15 KJV
[15] When ye, Peter, James, John, Andrew. therefore shall see the abomination of desolation

The real interesting thing about this is that the three gospel writers who have an Olivit discourse were not apart of this conversation with Jesus. The only gospel writer who was there John didn’t have an Olivit discourse in his gospel.

Could it be because the Holy Spirit knew that John would have the vision of revelation and that is John’s Olivit discourse?

 

[Marty fox]

I don't believe they can repent and be saved, they're vessels made for destruction

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12KJV
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Romans 9:20-23KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Is that the heart of the God you know?

We all have free will and those who perish in the lake of fire will perish because of what they choose. When God says they are vessels fitted for destruction it is because of what they did with their free choice God just allowed it and can use it for the greater good

 

[Truth7t7]

The real interesting thing about this is that the three gospel writers who have an Olivit discourse were not apart of this conversation with Jesus. The only gospel writer who was there John didn’t have an Olivit discourse in his gospel.

Could it be because the Holy Spirit knew that John would have the vision of revelation and that is John’s Olivit discourse?

When ye (The Church) shall see, the disciples were representative of the Church, and the Church didn't witness the second coming of Jesus Christ is 70AD, something you sluff off as a judgement on Israel/Jerusalem in symbolic allegory

The entire chapter of Matthew 24 is dedicated to the "Literal" second coming of Jesus Christ, shame on Preterism and its teachings for removing this in symbolic allegory

 

[Truth7t7]

Is that the heart of the God you know?

We all have free will and those who perish in the lake of fire will perish because of what they choose. When God says they are vessels fitted for destruction it is because of what they did with their free choice God just allowed it and can use it for the greater good

Do you deny "God" the potter, has power to create a vessel to dishonor, as scripture clearly teaches below, and has "Afore" prepared vessels to glory?

Romans 9:20-23KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

 

[Waiting on him]

When ye (The Church) shall see, the disciples were representative of the Church, and the Church didn't witness the second coming of Jesus Christ is 70AD, something you sluff off as a judgement on Israel/Jerusalem in symbolic allegory

The entire chapter of Matthew 24 is dedicated to the "Literal" second coming of Jesus Christ, shame on Preterism and its teachings for removing this in symbolic allegory

Psalm 69:21-24 KJV
[21] They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. [22] Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. [23] Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. [24] Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

 

[Truth7t7]

Psalm 69:21-24 KJV
[21] They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. [22] Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. [23] Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. [24] Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

Nice biblical scripture, no claims made again, were looking for cryptic mind readers to decipher your claims and intent

 

[Waiting on him]

Nice biblical scripture, no claims made again, were looking for mind readers to decipher your claims and intent

I figured you could possibly put it together yourself. I believe what your claiming is that He didn’t fulfill the law and the prophets as He said He’d come to do. Why can’t you understand, that Judaism had to fall in order for a new age to exist. A quick assessment of the book of acts will show you that the stiff neck Orthodox Jews were on the heels of the apostles every which way the turned, wanting them destroyed for the gospel they delivered, that the one they murdered is lord of all.

The Jews were continually petitioning Rome to murder Christians just as they had done with Christ. This is what persecution is…. To be hunted.

 

[Marty fox]

Do you deny "God" the potter, has power to create a vessel to dishonor, as scripture clearly teaches below, and has "Afore" prepared vessels to glory?

Romans 9:20-23KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

If you read your scripture that you quoted very carefully you will see that it’s talking about making us with free will.

Yes the creator has the right to make us the clay with free will so that we can choose honour or dishonour

Your interpretation contradicts the verse below
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

 

[Waiting on him]

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

1 Timothy 1:13,16 KJV
[13] Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. [16] Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

 

[Truth7t7]

I figured you could possibly put it together yourself. I believe what your claiming is that He didn’t fulfill the law and the prophets as He said He’d come to do. Why can’t you understand, that Judaism had to fall in order for a new age to exist. A quick assessment of the book of acts will show you that the stiff neck Orthodox Jews were on the heels of the apostles every which way the turned, wanting them destroyed for the gospel they delivered, that the one they murdered is lord of all.

The Jews were continually petitioning Rome to murder Christians just as they had done with Christ. This is what persecution is…. To be hunted.

I fully agree with your claims, im waiting for your next mind reading claim in suspense

 

[Truth7t7]

1 Timothy 1:13,16 KJV
[13] Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. [16] Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Nice biblical scripture, no claims made again, were looking for cryptic mind readers to decipher your claims and intent

 

[Truth7t7]

If you read your scripture that you quoted very carefully you will see that it’s talking about making us with free will.

Yes the creator has the right to make us the clay with free will so that we can choose honour or dishonour

Your interpretation contradicts the verse below
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

The scripture below discredits your claims, God is sovereign as you have shown in several previous posts, the Alpha and Omega, all knowing and omnipresent

Of course the all knowing God has predestined vessels to honor, to claim otherwise is Alice in Wonderland

Romans 9:20-23KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

 

[Waiting on him]

The scripture below discredits your claims, God is sovereign

What do you believe a vessel of mercy is?

 

[Truth7t7]

What do you believe a vessel of mercy is?

Exactly what the scripture teaches, I'm waiting for your cryptic interpretation in suspense!

 

[Truther]

The problem with the thousand is that most people don’t understand that there are two different sets of thousand years. There is the thousand year binding and there is the thousand year reigning.

Jesus doesn’t reign because satan is bound Jesus reigns because He is God

More to come

Wrong, the devil is bound for the same 1000 years(simultaneously) that the Lord is reigning on earth during His millennial reign.

 

[Waiting on him]

@Marty fox what do see as being a vessel of mercy?

 

[Waiting on him]

The real interesting thing about this is that the three gospel writers who have an Olivit discourse were not apart of this conversation with Jesus. The only gospel writer who was there John didn’t have an Olivit discourse in his gospel.

Could it be because the Holy Spirit knew that John would have the vision of revelation and that is John’s Olivit discourse?

I never caught that. Thanks!