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Earburner

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What prevails is the Word of GOD, understand? I do not know word more powerful than the Word of GOD, understand?
Yes! And what I quoted and said to you, is the Word of God, "understand"?
Evidently not! Because if you did, you wouldn't have replied in the manner that you did!
"Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have." Luke 8:16-18
 

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The view that you are proposing is a fabrication of Religion.

Given the fact that John saw things in his visions, we can know that what he literally described 1,925 years ago, concerning the far future, is not necessarily going to be manifested in real life, according to what he compared it to, by things that were in his time of life.
Do you agree with that?

You are reproaching a brother saying "the vision he proposed is a fabrication of Religion".
And what did you above said to him in your reply: What is that but the fabrication of a false interpretation and hence a misleading message?

John did not describe anything "according to what he compared it to, by things that were in his time of life", as you said. It is fake.

John wrote exactly what JESUS had revealed to him through the angel-Revelation 1:v.1-, actually an Archangel, who went to the island of Patmos to speak with John. John LITERALLY wrote what was shown to him by the angel of Lord who went there under the command of JESUS, the Almighty.

What you said to a brother has nothing to do with the Word of God, you invented it because you didn't keep to what JESUS recommended to his angel to show John, and to us too.

JESUS warned us saying: Matthew 11:v.36-37
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in this Day of Judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Revelation 22:v.18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 

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I dont believe it's fallen as far as you think, President Trump broke all time records in the vote, that the left conceded to

Trump took 19/20 bellwether counties, with Ohio and Florida in 2020

Trump has received endorsement by the vast majority of law enforcement agencies

The leftist propaganda is driven by the vast "Minority" of the US population, big tech, media, etc

They take a subject and amplify it with smoke and mirrors, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, Face Book,Twitter, Etc

The country is on a turn around, 24+ States have revamped voting laws, undoing the evils of 2020 from taking place again

Texas in the heartbeat bill gained approval by the US Supreme court and is law,several states have followed

Recent Federal Court ruling on stopping vaccine mandates in New York

Biden is currently at a 56% disapproval rating

The big key is Chuck Schumer in the Senate dosent have the votes to pass anything, as democrats "Joe Manchin" (VA) and "Kyrsten Sinema" (AZ) are voting with the republicans, making it a 48/52 majority for the conservative vote

Big Items Below That The Democrats Arent Gonna Get

1.) Pack the US Supreme Court
2.) DC & Puerto Rico Statehood
3.) Remove The Fillibuster
4.) Permanently Change Voting Laws,To Favor Incumbent Democrats
This is the reason so many Christians will be deceived by the government's and religious leaders in the final hours... You are associating the state of the church with the political environment. They bear no relation to one another.
 

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I do believe the vaccine mandates and the media and popular opinion surrounding covid etc with the growing division between the pro and anti vaxxers, does in some things parallel the coming mark of the beast, and we can see this throughout society. But it has nothing to do with health, finances, or politics. The parallels are in human behavior and character. It is in character, and character alone, where it will be clear as to what side you are on. What the current covid and vaccine issues are revealing is the character of society, and what I observe is this...
KJV Romans 8:18
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

KJV 2 Corinthians 1:5
5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.

KJV Philippians 3:10
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

How do we have fellowship in the sufferings of Christ, and what are they?

KJV Matthew 10:16-25
16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

The greatest temptation for Christ was to react to the insults and accusations of the so called religious leaders against Him. Calling Him a devil. Saying He must be possessed. Accusing Him of doing good works by the power of Satan. These kind of accusations and abuse must have been extremely hurtful. All the love He was pouring out upon ungrateful selfish people was being returned in hatred and ingratitude. And worse, they were giving Satan the glory for the good things and the beautiful truths offered them.

I see this being repeated today. But it's both sides of the vaccine debate partaking in this devilish behavior. It's all about character. It isn't about what side of the vax issue, the v covid issue, or any political issue, or whether you support Trump or Biden, none of those things matter.
And when the real mark is introduced, it will be a bi- partisan religious mandate. It's about worship. It's about truth. It's about faithfulness to Christ and His laws as opposed to faithfulness to man and his laws. And the parallel to today is about the abuse and hatred by all nations for His name's sake. Yes, the church isn't ready for that. The moment the church is accused today she runs to the government and seeks to redress her offended over sensitive mind and tries to implement laws to combat it. The church looks to politics to solve a religious matter.
It will be the church itself who will introduce the mark through a take over of the political world. Forming an image to the medieval Papacy, a union of church and state thus committing spiritual adultery, will result in an apostate Christian counterfeit. And it will begin in the USA. FORGET ISRAEL. Look to Washington for signs of the coming mark.
That combative behavior and character is seen in these forums. That's where the issue is. Are we ready for Christ's coming?
Not all of us, no way.
 
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This is the reason so many Christians will be deceived by the government's and religious leaders in the final hours... You are associating the state of the church with the political environment. They bear no relation to one another.
Your claim is opinion, at no time do I equate the church with politics as you falsely claim
 

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You are reproaching a brother saying "the vision he proposed is a fabrication of Religion".
And what did you above said to him in your reply: What is that but the fabrication of a false interpretation and hence a misleading message?

John did not describe anything "according to what he compared it to, by things that were in his time of life", as you said. It is fake.

John wrote exactly what JESUS had revealed to him through the angel-Revelation 1:v.1-, actually an Archangel, who went to the island of Patmos to speak with John. John LITERALLY wrote what was shown to him by the angel of Lord who went there under the command of JESUS, the Almighty.

What you said to a brother has nothing to do with the Word of God, you invented it because you didn't keep to what JESUS recommended to his angel to show John, and to us too.

JESUS warned us saying: Matthew 11:v.36-37
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in this Day of Judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Revelation 22:v.18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
All of God's dreams, visions, parables and prophecy are subject to interpretation. Whether that interpretation is performed by our own analytical and logical mind or by the Holy Spirit of God within us, each conclude two entirely different situations. The former is contrived, whereas the latter is revealed.

Most professing Christians are fully aware that they cannot and should not interpret the literal words in the book of Revelation, as they would interpret the book of Acts.
Why? Isaiah 55:8-9, Zechariah 4:6, Luke 8:10, 1 Corinthians 2:12-13.
According to Matthew 13:24-30, there are many in the churches who the "tares" (weeds) and therefore are not "wheat". Romans 8:8-9.
 

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The Lord put this on my heart as i was trying to fall asleep, so in obedience I am writing this post. Use Discernment.

What we are seeing come to fruition in this country and around the world is a registry of all the people who will not comply with mandates of the One world government. This is leading to concepts such as "vaccination passports" Which are really no different than the registry of Jews in Nazi Germany.

Watch the Project Veritas video in the link to see this.
FDA Official Says Use 'Nazi' Type Registry of Unvaxxed Americans: 'Like the Jewish Star' - Video Report (westernjournal.com)

This is all leading up to the mark of the beast.

The church is not prepared to face this.... there are those who doubt they will have to worry about the MOB.... those who outright deny this is the MOB..... those who do not fully trust in the providence of God..... those who will be so concerned with their wealth and prosperity that they will not think twice....

They control the media, they control the Medical establishment, they control the educational system, They control the militaries, they control the legal system, they control the travel, They control most religious organization.... There is no avoiding this, there is no hiding from it, You will soon lose all your rights and freedoms if you do not comply. But if you do, you will be able to live normally.... this is the seduction of the mark of the beast, and many will fall into it. An outcast is what we will become, an outcast denied basic human rights, food, clothing, housing, medical care. The Only Place for the outcast is the wilderness. It is there we will discover the providence of God, Just as Israel did after forty years there and entered the promised land.

So all encompassing this system will be that many will choose to worship the beast saying;
"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Revelation 13:4)

Even those who sit in the pews, for they will be so seduced by what is to come.

Pray, get into the Word of God, seek His Providence, Repent. We are on the edge of cliff, are you ready to take the leap of faith, or will you fall to the sea below and drown?

Well teh chruch will not be herwe for the 7 years of tribulation or the mark of the beast. I do not need discernment- we have the bible that tells us this. So we need not discern, but rejoice that God has delivere4d us from that wrath to come.
 
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Well teh chruch will not be herwe for the 7 years of tribulation or the mark of the beast. I do not need discernment- we have the bible that tells us this. So we need not discern, but rejoice that God has delivere4d us from that wrath to come.
There is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven found in scripture, no place

Kids want santa to come crawling down the chimney toooooo
 

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Well teh chruch will not be herwe for the 7 years of tribulation or the mark of the beast. I do not need discernment- we have the bible that tells us this. So we need not discern, but rejoice that God has delivere4d us from that wrath to come.

Yes, insults aside!

Kids want santa to come crawling down the chimney toooooo

Was that what you wanted?

Much love!
 

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Yes, insults aside!



Was that what you wanted?

Much love!
What does Santa Claus and a Pre-Trib Rapture have in common?

They both are fairly tales

marks,a pre-trib rapture is found no place in scripture

1 Corinthians15:51-54 & 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 represent the second coming Last Day resurrection

Revelation 3:10 in being kept from the hour of temptation, is now turned into a pre-trib rapture, Big Smiles!
 
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What does Santa Claus and a Pre-Trib Rapture have in common?

They both are fairly tales
That's true!!

Except for the pre-trib rapture, that is . . .

It saddens me that I've yet to find anyone who can hold to a real debate on that topic!

Just like you start off with the insults, I can't find anyone to debate rapture timing who doesn't dissolve into insults and fallacies.

It's too bad!

Much love!
 
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That's true!!

Except for the pre-trib rapture, that is . . .

It saddens me that I've yet to find anyone who can hold to a real debate on that topic!

Just like you start off with the insults, I can't find anyone to debate rapture timing who doesn't dissolve into insults and fallacies.

It's too bad!

Much love!
I have posted three scriptures, it's not an insult but truth, a pre-trib rapture is found no place in the scripture

Just as the preter8st events of Matthew 24:15, Matthew 24:21, and Matthew 24:30-31 are future unfulfilled
 

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I have posted three scriptures, it's not an insult but truth, a pre-trib rapture is found no place in the scripture
Don't bother to deny the words you've posted. When you compare people to believing fairy tales, and Santa Claus, well, you can figure out for yourself what to call it.

;)

Unless you want to go back and edit . . .

Post trib, mid trib, prewrath, NONE of these timings are given in Scripture. Do you realize that? You only find it by the process of elimination. It cannot be post trib, it cannot be mid trib, it cannot be pre-wrath, which is really another mid trib theory.

Much love!
 
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Don't bother to deny the words you've posted. When you compare people to believing fairy tales, and Santa Claus, well, you can figure out for yourself what to call it.

;)

Unless you want to go back and edit . . .

Post trib, mid trib, prewrath, NONE of these timings are given in Scripture. Do you realize that? You only find it by the process of elimination. It cannot be post trib, it cannot be mid trib, it cannot be pre-wrath, which is really another mid trib theory.

Much love!
You continue to write, but your response is "Void" of scripture to support a pre-trib rapture, because there isn't any
 

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Revelation 3:10 in being kept from the hour of temptation, is now turned into a pre-trib rapture, Big Smiles!

Interesting verse you select there. How literally true do you think it is? I think it's very literally true. Pre-trib rapture? While this doesn't conflict with a pre-trib rapture I think there are better verses to base it on.

But just the same . . . what would you suppose it would take to be kept "out of the hour of testing"? To not be present during a certain time period? Would that be saying that you'll die first?

Much love!
 
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You continue to write, but your response is "Void" of scripture to support a pre-trib rapture, because there isn't any
Just follow along my questions. Before you will be able to see the rapture of the church where it belongs, first you will need to see how the verses you are applying to the rapture don't.

But seriously, who are we kidding, we're not going to walk away from this in agreement, and it's not essential to me, is it essential to you?

Much love!
 
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Interesting verse you select there. How literally true do you think it is? I think it's very literally true. Pre-trib rapture? While this doesn't conflict with a pre-trib rapture I think there are better verses to base it on.

But just the same . . . what would you suppose it would take to be kept "out of the hour of testing"? To not be present during a certain time period? Would that be saying that you'll die first?

Much love!
How does the synagogue of satan worship before the righteous feet, if the church is raptured away to heaven

How does the believer "Overcome" in verse 11 below, if the church is raptured away to heaven

The scripture below dosent even imply or suggest a pre-trib rapture, its a fabricated man made fairy tale

Revelation 3:9-12KJV
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
 
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12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:

Are you thinking this is meant to apply here on earth during our terrestrial lives?

Much love!
 

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The scripture below dosent even imply or suggest a pre-trib rapture, its a fabricated man made fairy tale
Pour it on, I don't care, I've learned to read past all this nonsense. Vanity is what it is, emptiness, meaninglessness. It adds nothing to the conversation, and shows poor manners in my opinion.

Much love!