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The 'blessed virgin Mary'
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That's your rebuttal to the Scriptural evidence in post #701 that outlines the irrefutable evidence that Mary IS the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant?LOL
You obviously do not recognize I do not agree with you.
Mary is never called an Ark.
Mary along with others exampled in Scripture are noted for Why they were chosen (as are all of the Lords servants) for a particular Service unto the Lord.
Jesus is never called an Ark.
Fulfillment is Effected by Gods Works, not mans.
Just another one of your empty denials??
Mary is never called a "Jew", either.
Using YOUR logic - does that mean she wasn't Jewish??
Noses is an OT type of Jesus. Moses is NEVER called the "Messiah" - so, does that mean he is no longer an OT type of Jesus??
What an idiotic approach to Scripture.
Besides - Rev. 11:18-Rev. 12:1 points to her as being the Ark of the Covenant in Heaven - and NO amount of "LOLs" or emojis will change that fact . . ..
What does the Bible tell us about Mary when the Messiah was involved?
As far as scripture is concerned, there are only 3 times mentioned where the Messiah spoke to Mary. And He seemed to be a bit perturbed with her 2 of those times. The 3rd time He merely told her to look at her son. He never addressed her as mother but only as woman. Although He did know of the word when He told the disciple at the cross to look at his (the disciple's) mother.
Also, He only spoke 2 times with regard to what someone said about her and again His responses couldn't be considered very flattering.
There just never seemed to be any warmth shown between them.
As far as scripture is concerned, there are only 3 times mentioned where the Messiah spoke to Mary. And He seemed to be a bit perturbed with her 2 of those times. The 3rd time He merely told her to look at her son. He never addressed her as mother but only as woman. Although He did know of the word when He told the disciple at the cross to look at his (the disciple's) mother.
Also, He only spoke 2 times with regard to what someone said about her and again His responses couldn't be considered very flattering.
There just never seemed to be any warmth shown between them.
amigo de christo
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You should PAY ATTENTION.
Your POST # 701 SAID SPECIFICALLY:
I replied SPECIFICALLY TO your "CLAIM" you made TWICE.
AND? NOT ONCE have you provided a Scripture VERIFYING "YOUR CLAIM"!
You going off on your usual barrage of attempts of personal insults AND tangent of deflecting to everything EXCEPT "verifying" your claim...
Has NOTHING to do with me but IS ALL ABOUT YOUR inability to Verify what you claim.
More examples of your TYPICAL sad little attempts to INSULT others and Deflect to ANYTHING, other than Verifying YOUR CLAIMS with Scripture.
Same as always, no one expects anything different from you. Pat on head.
BreadOfLife
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And you LIE with the ease with which MOST people breathe.
Not only did U verify mu claims with Scripture - I gave you a litany of Scriptural verification in post #701 - which you have chosen to ignore and make the patently FALSE claim that I didn't provide Scriptural verification.
Of you can't refute the verses I presented - just admit it and move on.
But don't sit there and embarrass yourself by claiming that I didn't provide a sound Scriptural basis for my claim. It's pathetic . . .
Does God create us from the dirt of the earth then?
I think you need some lessons in biology.
Try to stay calm and open your Ears.
I IGNORED most of your post #701.
I ASKED you EXPRESSLY, about YOUR CLAIM:
I asked you EXPRESSLY, for Scriptural VERIFICATION for YOUR CLAIM:
Try really hard to stay on point, and provide a Scripture that VERIFIES...
HINT... "SCRIPTURAL VERIFICATION IS any Scripture that says;"
If you can NOT provide a Scripture that VERIFIES...
Man up, and admit it is "your opinion", that CANNOT expressly be VERIFIED with SCRIPTURE!
THEN... wait to SEE..."IF" I...
Agree, Disagree, Refute, Ignore..."your answer", TO THE QUESTION, I asked...
Remember...Try to STAY ON POINT...
Reminder...THE POINT IS ONLY...your claim...
Reminder...The QUESTION IS ONLY...about;
Reminder...QUESTION, Can you provide Scriptural Verification for YOUR CLAIM?
Waiting with doubtful anticipation...LOL
"If Mary automatically inherits the title 'Ark of the Covenant' for the reason that she once bore the Messiah, then would it not logically follow that all Christians can rightly be given the same title, since our bodies are also God's dwelling place (1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 6:19-20)?"
The Messiah never once claimed Mary as His mother.
He did say, however, that she was the mother of one of
His disciples.
He did say, however, that she was the mother of one of
His disciples.
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BreadOfLife
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TRANSLATION:
"NO amount of Scriptural evidence will make me change my mind - got it?"
Of COIRSE you ignored post #701 - because that is where the Scriptural case is made.
How Pharisaical of you .
Remember - this is a debate forum - NOT a denial forum. . .
Eternally Grateful
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Yes, You have proven this quite clearly. That nothing scripture says will get you to change your view
You will still eat the bread that does not give eternal life. yet call it the bread from heaven. inspite what Jesus said about that bread in John 6.
sad..
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Wrong.
God's spirit dwelt in MANY people in the OT (Exod. 31:3, Exod. 35:31, 1 Sam. 16:13, Micah 3:8).
Tell me - how many Arks of the Covenant were there?
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Wrong.
The Eucharist is the Bread that came down from Heaven (John 6:25-71, Luke 22:19–20; Matth. 26:26–28; Mark 14:22–24; 1 Cor. 11:23–25) - and I partake of it at every mass.
Eternally Grateful
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WRONG
the bread of life is the bread which came down from heaven, which one will eat of it and not die.
John 6:
47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”
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Tell me - how many Arks of the Covenant were there?[/QUOTE]
Only one as far as scripture is concerned. Why do you ask?
Tell me - how many Arks of the Covenant were there?[/QUOTE]
Only one as far as scripture is concerned. Why do you ask?
LOL - SHOCKING....eh...not LOL...
Nothing new. You made a WILD claim that Scripture does not verify.
LOL funny. You present NOTHING to Debate.
BreadOfLife
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My point is that YOU are not the Ark of the Covenant because the Holy Spirit dwells within you - ANY MORE than those in the OT were the Ark of the Covenant when they were also filled with the Spirit.
Mary is the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant - and NO amount of cheap denial from you OR @Taken or anybody else is going to change this fact - especially what NONE of you has been able to refute the overwhelming Scriptural evidence presented in post #701.
Let me know when you're ready to discuss those verses . . .
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And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. - Luke 2:7
Noting the wording “firstborn son” indicating she would have other children. The way to the Holy of Holies, where the Ark once laid, was not available to all but through the Lord Jesus Christ…
And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. - Mark 15:38
And… What was Mary doing? I would say looking with the other women, “afar off”
There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; - Mark 15:40
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