If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[dad]

Luke 17:20-21

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The city He prepared for us will be very much observed. When Jesus returns, so will He be observed as every eye will see Him. So what is not observed would be the kingdom of God in us. Just like God is not seen in an xray we may take. The kingdom of God then is in us, but of course also where He lives in Heaven. We go to be with Him when we die so that kingdom we go to is not then on earth. The kingdom is not just spiritual, but also physical, which is why we the saints return with Him and the bodies are raised up. Jesus was physical and spiritual when He rose from the dead. So shall we be forever like Him. We will help Him rule as promised on this very physical earth for 1000 years. The new earth will also be for us and our city after that. New Jerusalem is both spiritual as well as physical. It has rivers and trees, and mansions, and streets, and minerals, and gems etc.

 

[dad]

The "Kingdom of God" is one of MANY metaphors of the New Covenant. Others include:

* the True Vine and the Branches
* the Shepherd and the Sheep
* the New Adam and the New Eve
* the New Creation (2 Cor 5:16)
* the New Humanity (Eph 2:15)
* the New Jerusalem aka the City On a Hill
* etc.

It is a real kingdom.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If the full 69th week of Daniel's 70 weeks has passed, does that mean The Messiah was "cut off" in the middle of the 70th week?
Yes, absolutely.. Jesus arrived and was baptized at the end of the 69th week. Which started the 70th week.

Remember that Jesus said that He came only for the house of Israel? God was trying to get the nation as a whole, to spread the gospel.. so Jesus confirmed the new covenant with many Jews for 3 1/2 years. Then on the cross, He was “cut off" from the land of the living(Ish 53:8) which then ended the animal sacrifice..

Jesus then, thru His direct apostles, confirmed the new covenant to many more Jews for another 3 1/2 years. This is why in Acts 2, the apostles needed another one to replace Judas, so they could fulfill scripture…

After the 70th week, Steven was stoned, and God Himself sent Philip, Peter & Paul to gentiles…

Jesus fulfilled Daniel 9, and just as the Messiahs people killed Him, which made God determine the desolation, so also did His people destroy the city by rioting, which was the desolation…

So Premillennialism is ridiculous for sticking a week onto the end of time because the 70 Weeks have already happened. The kicker is that they take The SAVIOR’S Covenant from the 70 Weeks and hand it to the antichrist.​

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST is Mount Zion.

sex, drugs, music, self-idolatry, and false religion is the end time battle against GOD'S Kingdom.

 

[Guestman]

Luke 17:20-21

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The rendering of the King James Bible at Luke 17:21, causes sincere individuals to be wrongly directed, to "miss the mark" of what the Bible really says, saying at verse 21 that "the kingdom of God is within you". To whom was Jesus speaking ? The Pharisees.

And in what relationship were they with regard to Jesus ? His enemies, not friends, so could "the kingdom of God" be "within" them ? Not at all. So what is the accurate rendering of Luke 17:20, 21 ? It says: "On being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them: “The Kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness; nor will people say, ‘See here !’ or, ‘There !’ For look ! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.”(New World Translation)

Yes, the premier king of God's Kingdom or its royal representative was ' in the Pharisees midst ', standing right in front of them, for if a person were to look carefully in the center section of a King James Bible concerning Luke 17:21, they would see that it offers another reading of "within you", that of "Or, among you".

The inaccurate rendering of "within you" causes people to believe that God's Kingdom is just something within a person's heart, and not a real government. How many have read Isaiah 9:6, 7 in the King James Bible that says: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government (Hebrew misrah meaning "empire; government") shall be upon his shoulder........Of the increase of his government (Hebrew misrah) and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom (Hebrew mamlakah meaning "dominion; estate; country"), to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever" ?

So, here at Isaiah 9, it establishes that Jesus is ruler over a real government that will establish justice on the earth, and when you combine this with Jesus words to his disciples at Matthew 13:11, that says: "To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted", it can now be grasped that God's Kingdom is a heavenly government and not one that many feel will come down to the earth and physically rule in Jerusalem.

How many have read Jesus words to his eleven faithful apostles on the night before he was arrested, saying: "In a little while the world will see me no more, but you will see me (when those who are "chosen" by Jehovah God to be members of God's Kingdom and prove loyal till death become spirit "sons of God" by means of a resurrection, 1 Cor 15:50-54), because I live and you will live (as immortal spirit "sons of God" once resurrected from the dead)" ?(John 14:19)

And how many have read Hebrews 9:26 that says: "But now he (Jesus Christ) has manifested himself once for all time at the conclusion of the systems of things to do away with sin through the sacrifice of himself " ? If Jesus were to come again in the flesh, he would be renouncing his perfect sacrifice that he gave in 33 C.E., the life blood he presented to Jehovah God (Heb 9:12, 24), and all that anyone would have done to please Jehovah God (see Isa 12:2, KJV) would be in vain, remaining "in sin" so that we would have no everlasting future, just everlasting death.

Thus, no one will physically see Jesus Christ, but his loyal disciples will see him with the "eye of discernment", recognizing this when he comes again at "the war of the great day of God the Almighty", called Armageddon.(Rev 16:14, 16)

At Matthew 24 concerning "the great tribulation" (Matt 24:21), Jesus says: "Then the sign (or indicator) of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth (or about 7.8 billion people) will beat themselves in grief (due to recognizing their impending death), and they will see (or discern, for we use the words "Oh I see" when we grasp something) the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven (or being invisible, see Lam 3:44) with power and great glory."(Matt 24:30; see also Heb 9:28 that says: "the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin, and he will be seen (or discerned) by those earnestly looking for him for their salvation" as well as Lev 16:2 that says: "Jehovah said to Moses: “Tell Aaron your brother that he may not come at just any time into the holy place inside the curtain, in front of the cover on the Ark, so that he may not die, for I will appear over the cover in a cloud", being invisible)

 

[Earburner]

The rendering of the King James Bible at Luke 17:21, causes sincere individuals to be wrongly directed, to "miss the mark" of what the Bible really says, saying at verse 21 that "the kingdom of God is within you". To whom was Jesus speaking ? The Pharisees.

And in what relationship were they with regard to Jesus ? His enemies, not friends, so could "the kingdom of God" be "within" them ? Not at all. So what is the accurate rendering of Luke 17:20, 21 ? It says: "On being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them: “The Kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness; nor will people say, ‘See here !’ or, ‘There !’ For look ! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.”(New World Translation)

Yes, the premier king of God's Kingdom or its royal representative was ' in the Pharisees midst ', standing right in front of them, for if a person were to look carefully in the center section of a King James Bible concerning Luke 17:21, they would see that it offers another reading of "within you", that of "Or, among you".

YES! I AGREE!
And guess what! I learned all of what you speak of and reference, THROUGH the KJV....ONLY.

Prior to the true understanding (of your reference of discussion only), I trashed all bibles that are translated from the Westcott and Hort Greek Text, which the JW-NWT is also translated from.

So how did I do it, from ONLY the KJV?
Ans.
Isaiah 55:8-9
Zechariah 4:6
John 16:13
I literally trusted the Personage of God's Holy Spirit alone, to guide me through His words.

Now to correct and update you about Who the KoG is, and not what, I point to it in the KJV
John 14[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[Earburner]

^ Now, let's go to KJV Revelation 3:20
[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Which is supported by: John 14[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

 

[Earburner]

^ The Comforter, the Holy Spirit of God,
Being BOTH God the Father and God the Son

 

[Earburner]

^ TOGETHER as One!

 

[Earburner]

^ So,...not what, but rather Who shall be within you/we, who do believe?
Ans. God the Father and God the Son, who are/is the KoG themselves.

 

[Truth7t7]

The city He prepared for us will be very much observed. When Jesus returns, so will He be observed as every eye will see Him. So what is not observed would be the kingdom of God in us. Just like God is not seen in an xray we may take. The kingdom of God then is in us, but of course also where He lives in Heaven. We go to be with Him when we die so that kingdom we go to is not then on earth. The kingdom is not just spiritual, but also physical, which is why we the saints return with Him and the bodies are raised up. Jesus was physical and spiritual when He rose from the dead. So shall we be forever like Him. We will help Him rule as promised on this very physical earth for 1000 years. The new earth will also be for us and our city after that. New Jerusalem is both spiritual as well as physical. It has rivers and trees, and mansions, and streets, and minerals, and gems etc.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[dad]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Of course the thousand years referred to goes back to that 1000 years of Christ's reign.

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

Where did you think Jerusalem was, Mars?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

Since they die they are not immortal.

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

That has zero to do with taking away from actual days or weeks or months or years that were given specifically in prophesies.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Not sure what you think what you posted means. It has zero to do with the stuff you have peddled though.

 

[Truth7t7]

Of course the thousand years referred to goes back to that 1000 years of Christ's reign.

Where did you think Jerusalem was, Mars?
Since they die they are not immortal.

That has zero to do with taking away from actual days or weeks or months or years that were given specifically in prophesies.

Not sure what you think what you posted means. It has zero to do with the stuff you have peddled though.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound From (One Specific Purpose) As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

Revelation 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[dad]

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

No idea what you are talking about. He actually will be cast down to earth for a short time and bound later.

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

False. The things that happen in the period are quite detailed and sure could not be happening now, as much as you might like to try to spiritualize it away for whatever reason.

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

False. We go to be with Him where He is eternally.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation

No, he is caught and bound after Jesus returns actually.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

The battle of Armageddon is not the time when the camp of the saints is surrounded. GONG!
You seem to think that by spamming a lot of out of context verses that you colour and bold makes it look like you know what you are talking about! No.

 

[Truth7t7]

No idea what you are talking about. He actually will be cast down to earth for a short time and bound later.
False. The things that happen in the period are quite detailed and sure could not be happening now, as much as you might like to try to spiritualize it away for whatever reason.


False. We go to be with Him where He is eternally.



No, he is caught and bound after Jesus returns actually.



The battle of Armageddon is not the time when the camp of the saints is surrounded. GONG!
You seem to think that by spamming a lot of out of context verses that you colour and bold makes it look like you know what you are talking about! No.

Satan was cast down to earth, "Prior" to the words spoken by Jesus during his earthly ministry

Your claim Satan "Will Be" cast down to earth is "Error"

Luke 10:17-18KJV
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

 

[Truth7t7]

No idea what you are talking about. He actually will be cast down to earth for a short time and bound later.
False. The things that happen in the period are quite detailed and sure could not be happening now, as much as you might like to try to spiritualize it away for whatever reason.


False. We go to be with Him where He is eternally.



No, he is caught and bound after Jesus returns actually.



The battle of Armageddon is not the time when the camp of the saints is surrounded. GONG!
You seem to think that by spamming a lot of out of context verses that you colour and bold makes it look like you know what you are talking about! No.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[dad]

Satan was cast down to earth, "Prior" to the words spoken by Jesus during his earthly ministry

Your claim Satan "Will Be" cast down to earth is "Error"

Nope. Satan may have been on earth a lot, but in the end he gets his 'wings' clipped and is stuck here. That is not when he gets bound though. That will be after the Trib

Luke 10:17-18KJV
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Looking at one commentary I see this

"I beheld Satan ... - “Satan” here denotes evidently the prince of the devils who had been cast out by the seventy disciples, for the discourse was respecting their power over evil spirits. “Lightning” is an image of “rapidity” or “quickness.” I saw Satan fall “quickly” or rapidly - as quick as lightning. The phrase “from heaven” is to be referred to the lightning, and does not mean that he saw “Satan” fall “from heaven,” but that he fell as quick as lightning from heaven or from the clouds. The whole expression then may mean, “I saw at your command devils immediately depart, as quick as the flash of lightning. I gave you this power - I saw it put forth - and I give also now, in addition to this, the power to tread on serpents,” etc.
Luke 10 - Barnes' Notes on the Whole Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org
One thing we know is that this was not talking about the time in the future in the end when Satan was cast out of heaven to the earth. Not unless the great I AM was speaking about what He sees in our future!

In fact when Satan is cast down to earth it will only be for a short little time, so it could not be thousands of years ago, period.

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[dad]

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

No there will not! The earth is very much still undissolved when we rule here then.
We can see that in the many many descriptions of life here after He returns. You are beyond left field, and lost in the woods on that.

 

[Truth7t7]

Nope. Satan may have been on earth a lot, but in the end he gets his 'wings' clipped and is stuck here. That is not when he gets bound though. That will be after the Trib

Looking at one commentary I see this

"I beheld Satan ... - “Satan” here denotes evidently the prince of the devils who had been cast out by the seventy disciples, for the discourse was respecting their power over evil spirits. “Lightning” is an image of “rapidity” or “quickness.” I saw Satan fall “quickly” or rapidly - as quick as lightning. The phrase “from heaven” is to be referred to the lightning, and does not mean that he saw “Satan” fall “from heaven,” but that he fell as quick as lightning from heaven or from the clouds. The whole expression then may mean, “I saw at your command devils immediately depart, as quick as the flash of lightning. I gave you this power - I saw it put forth - and I give also now, in addition to this, the power to tread on serpents,” etc.
Luke 10 - Barnes' Notes on the Whole Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org
One thing we know is that this was not talking about the time in the future in the end when Satan was cast out of heaven to the earth. Not unless the great I AM was speaking about what He sees in our future!

In fact when Satan is cast down to earth it will only be for a short little time, so it could not be thousands of years ago, period.

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Your suggesting that Satan is still presently in heaven and not cast out, as Jesus sits at the right hand of the father, already overcoming Satan on earth?

Scripture clearly teaches as Jesus stated, he watched Satan cast out of heaven as lightning, Jesus was tempted by Satan upon earth 40 days and nights, your claims are major "Error" in my opinion

Luke 10:17-18KJV
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.