Daniels 4 Beasts

[Ronald D Milam]

OK... So then, whose "word of God" should I trust?
Here is a comparison of your Bible quote, and that of the KJV, thus revealing a significant impact for meaning.

Yes indeed!!
I shall NOT stray away from the KJV.

Trusting in men who translated the bible is kind of odd, and all I use is the KJV, but we know they were men, and were fallible, and had agendas against Catholicism(Church of England). But if others cant understand my KJV conversations, I will use the Holman version for their benefit. But I can also take the KJV and show you why Daniel 9:24-27 was not about Jesus Christ, and how they divided the text in the wrong place when they added in the verses and chapters that we know were not in the original text. We know they added the verses and chapters RIGHT? So, in this case they did not divide the verses properly. PERIOD. They were just men after all. The original Hebrew texts had no verses or chapters, so don't worship the KJV translators, they made mistakes aplenty.

Daniel 9:25-27 crosses over 2000 years of time, men (English translators) put in the chapters and verses as I was saying. So, imho, they divided it wrongly, I can still understand it, but it's what I do 24/7. I will sperate it correctly below to show why it causes confusion, the translators have the verses mismatched !!


Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks(69 weeks): the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: (Messiah is CUT OFF after 69 total weeks which means he is Sacrificed....there is one week left and Jesus is dead !! These are truths brother. NOT 69 1/2 weeks, that is adding to the bible and its a fib.)

and (means AFTER Jesus is dead, thus the AND) the people(Romans/Europeans) of the prince that shall come(in 2000 years) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(in 70 AD); and the end thereof shall be with a flood(Army/70 AD), and unto the end of the war desolations are determined(the Diaspora). 27 And he(The prince that SHALL COME) shall confirm {Gabar = his Insolent actions and he thus FORCES concessions} the covenant(simply means Agreement) with many(MANY Nations, not just Israel) for one week(7 years): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease(he CAUSES = the A.C. gets his 1290 High Priest False Prophet friend to do his DIRTY WORK), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The above is the proper contextual division of the passage if one were going to divide it, the KJV translators had no idea of course what it meant at that time tbh, we looking back from the very end times are in a much better position to understand these things.

 

[Enoch111]

His kingdom is NOT OF this world,......and NEVER will be!!!

Of course it is "not of this world" (since it is the Kingdom of God). But that does not mean -- and never meant -- that Christ would not establish His real, visible, physical and spiritual Kingdom of God on earth in the future. You have taken that saying out of context, since it applied to the time when Christ came to be crucified -- not to establish His physical Kingdom on earth.

 

[Earburner]

Of course it is "not of this world" (since it is the Kingdom of God). But that does not mean -- and never meant -- that Christ would not establish His real, visible, physical and spiritual Kingdom of God on earth in the future. You have taken that saying out of context, since it applied to the time when Christ came to be crucified -- not to establish His physical Kingdom on earth.

Of course, my understanding is far from shallow, as might be surmised in the mere "snap-shot" of one post of my reply, that you have just read.

So, before you misjudge my position, I urge you to briefly take in a little bit of the background of my understanding, in the past 2-3 pages of this thread.
That is not to say that you will be convinced or convicted of my stand, but rather that you will get a glimpse of where I am coming from, in the Mind of Christ.

Many have a childish view, and therefore do not comprehend or understand the reality of the KoG. However they readily do grasp it, when I point to Jesus alone, saying that Jesus Himself IS THE KoG, and we, who are His Born Again Saints, ARE the New EARTH.
YES! They may grasp what I am saying, but they don't like it, nor do they want to hear it. It doesn't sit well with their "natural man/mind" thought process, even to the point of it being down right offensive to them.

For me to be "in Christ"; and "Christ in me", does show exactly WHERE the KoG is NOW.
I am made to be a NEW CREATURE/CREATION, not a refurbished or remodeled make over.

Therefore, I do agree with Him, that though "He came into this world", being "not of this world", I now also know that since He physically ascended from this earth/planet, His return from Heaven, is to only change us into the Immortality of His Likeness, and "recieve us TO HIMSELF, so that WHERE He is, THERE we may be ALSO", and it will NOT be on this OLD planet earth.

So in conclusion, having now His Eternal presence of His Eternal Life residing within me, and me being spiritually "placed" in Him, I also am no longer of this world. And as a result, I am "looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements [this earth] shall melt with fervent heat."
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2 Peter 3:12-13
If you are offended, I do not apologize.

 

[Earburner]

That us UNTO GOD

Thats NOT AN ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION ON THE WING OF A TEMPLE

Please try to learn the difference.

Please TRY, and then DO STAY with the KJV
Remember: ever since 1881AD there are NOW two schools of thought, concerning today's Protestant Bibles.

From the Textus Receptus Greek text of 1516, is the 1611 KJV.
From the Wescott & Hort Greek text of 1881, are the MANY spurious "half breed" Bible versions of today. One of them is the JW-NWT.

This is a very controversial subject to discuss, therefore one must proceed with as much sensitivity to God's Holy Spirit as is possible for correct discernment, of WHAT Bible you should study.
Personally, I received MY answer 30 years ago, with an untold amount blessings, and have regretted nothing for it.

The following excerpt is from the site below.
"Westcott and Hort were the original textual critics of their day. Though they no longer live, their legacy lives on in the form of a corrupted Greek text. The influence of their methods blackens and corrupts every modern translation of the Bible available (NIV, NASB, NKJV, NRSV, NAB, REB, RSV, CEV, TEV, GNB, LIVING, PHILLIPS, NEW JERUSALEM, NEW CENTURY, and the New Word Translation). Readers of these new Bibles are quite unaware that they are reading the translation of a corrupt text. Without thinking or looking deeper into the matter, they blindly assume that every Bible is the same...."
Modern Bible Versions, and Westcott and Hort

"God IS NOT the author of confusion"

 

[Oseas]

QUOTE="Earburner, post: 1213735, member: 8090"]OK... So then, whose "word of God" should I trust? Here is a comparison of your Bible quote, and that of the KJV, thus revealing a significant impact for meaning.
My issues with your translation, in comparison to the KJV, being that of a different meaning, which leads and directs the context to a very different conclusion, that is far different than the KJV.
I shall NOT stray away from the KJV.[/QUOTE]

The MAIN point in my above posts is EXCLUSIVELY the real description of the prophetic FACTS, yeah, the real facts, that is the description of the real happenings that describe LITERALLY the FULFILLMENT of the prophetic Word of GOD, no matters the translations or biblical versions. The letter KILLS, but the Spirit gives life.
Actually, Your issues are not with biblical translations as you say above, in fact your issues is that you have not the Spirit, but only the letter of the Word of GOD; In other words, you have lamp, but it is completely off because you have not OIL, you have not the anointing of the Spirit .

What are the facts, and the real interpretation, that really confirm Daniel's prophetic fulfillment of the WEEK 70th-DANIEL 9:v.27, the last WEEK-and the manifestation of the satanic ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION?

Here goes the sequence of the prophetic events, and how they were LITERALLY fulfilled over time.

TO ALL BROTHERS IN CHRIST JESUS

I am not discussing about the prophetic last week Daniel 9:v.27, I am trying to make and HIGHLIGTH the difference between what is TRUE or what is Truth, and what is not. What matters is Truth, the Truth must prevails in this celestial or heavenly place in Christ where we yet are now, and Satan must be cast down from here to the earth, and after to the bottomless pit.

THE PROPHETIC FACTS AS THEY HAPPENED (NO MATTER BIBLICAL TRANSLATIONS)

587 - 559 B.C.-Judah is conquered by Babylon-Jerusalem and the First Temple are destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon. (TRUE)

559 B.C.-Babylon is conquered by Cyrus - Cyrus's reigns lasted from 559-538 B.C. (TRUE)
The rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is AUTHORIZED by Cyrus in his 1st year- 559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3. (TRUE)

522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C. (TRUE)
DETAIL: The rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21years, IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius. (TRUE)

Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C. (TRUE)

Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C. - Ezra 6:v.15-15 And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the SIXTH YEAR of the reign of Darius the king. (TRUE)

Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C. - (TRUE)
First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C. Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C. (TRUE)

Again: Captivity of Israel = 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C. (TRUE)

End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15 (TRUE)

7 weeks = 49 years-.---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C. (TRUE)

62 weeks = 434 years..---> 468 B.C - 434 B.C = 34 B.C. (TRUE, IT'S A FACT) Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks - 62 plus 7 weeks - of prophecy have LITERALLY fulfilled itself, i.e. FROM YEAR 517 B.C. UNTIL YEAR 34 B.C.. THIS IS REAL.
NOTE: In this point JESUS was not born yet. In this point we are in the year 34 B.C., after 483 years from the END of CAPTIVITY that is from 517 B.C. to 34 B.C..THIS IS TRUER. So, it remains now to describe the fulfillment of the week 70th.

From years 34 B.C (517-483 years) until the birth of JESUS passed around 30 years-Year 4BC. A majority of scholars assume a date between 6 BC and 4 BC. (TRUE)

Jesus was born around 4 BC, so there was a gap of 30 years, from 34 B.C. until JESUS's birth-4BC. The week 70th, the last week of years-7 years-Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense, I would say it stayed in stand by. See, if we were to LITERALLY consider the prophetic 490 years, the prophecy would have been plainly fulfilled in the year 27 BC, of course, that is before JESUS's birth, obviously. No sense.

JESUS was born -4BC- and conclude His Ministry around year 29AD and was cut off - crucified. Until this present time the events of the FIRST half of the week 70th it is still to be fulfilled according Revelation 11:v.2 ans Revelation 13:v.5, and in the middle of the week 70th will occur the manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation or in the beginning of SECOND HALF, and it until the consumation, until the END of this Devil's world, whose END is already running.


Daniel 9:.26-27-CJB- WHAT PREVAILS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The Word is GOD.

V.26 - Then, AFTER (yeah AFTER) after the sixty-two weeks, MASHIACH will be cut off and have nothing.The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but his end will come with a flood, and desolations are decreed until the war is over. (This has nothing to do with the destruction of Israel in the year 70AD, AS FOLLOWS WITH SOME QUESTIONS:

V.27 He (he WHOM? the PRINCE; who is he?) he will make a STRONG COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week [of years]. (THE WEEK 70th)
Do you see? This SATANIC PRINCE will RULE the last week, the week 70th, BY ENTIRE. And he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week[of years]. (This prince was/is not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely)

What kind of strong COVENANT the satanic PRINCE will make with leaders? Who are these leaders? By the way, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 will be divided in two periods of 3,5 years by the evil Prince.
In this POINT, that is, AFTER the END of the week 62, the prophecy is still to the beginning of the week 70th, and A PRINCE will start to work in his strong COVENANT with leaders; (What kind of Covenant? - Revelation 11:v.2 and Revelation 13:v.5

Therefore, in this point the FIRST half of the week 70th isn't started yet, it is I would say in stand by until this current time, and the STRONG COVENANT of the satanic PRINCE with the LEADERS will take place or will be applied for ONE WEEK, then the week 70th starts, I believe it will be in this current decade, there is a period of time AND EVENTS called as FIRST AND SECOND HALFS of the last week - the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27- that WILL be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE.

... he -the EVIL PRINCE- shall confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK he-THE EVIL PRINCE-shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Scripture does not say JESUS was crucified IN 29 AD, many people are saying that, not Scripture. What Scripture says is that AFTER, yeah, AFTER the week 62 plus 7 the Messiah is"cut off" - crucified .

JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, because the week 69 ENDED IN 34 BC, so JESUS was not crucified in the week 69th but AFTER the END of week 69, but also was not crucified in the midst of the week 70th ruled by the Wicked Prince, who says JESUS was crucified in the middle of week 70th is lying, it's a devilish lie, this week 70th is/will be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE by the entire. The evil Prince was not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely. THE evil Prince will manifest himself in this CURRENT decade, that is between 2020 to 2030, and the period of 7 years is within this current decade.

TO ALL BROTHERS IN CHRIST JESUS

The MAIN POINT of the prophecy of the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 was/is the coming of the Messiah, our Lord JESUS Christ. JESUS suffered a lot to fulfill His Ministry, His suffering is indescribable, there are no words for. So I am finishing this post with a song of the great suffering of JESUS which certainly will make my brothers who love Himto cry. GOD bless.

 

[Earburner]

Oseas specifically asked:
"What are the facts, and the real interpretation, that really confirm Daniel's prophetic fulfillment of the WEEK 70th-DANIEL 9:v.27, the last WEEK-and the manifestation of the satanic ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION?"

Ans. In this forum, you will find my complete and final answer, that ALL of the 70 weeks of Daniel HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.

PLEASE SEE my scriptural documentations in the middle to end of the 1st page of my discussion with "Keraz", in his titled topic for discussion:
"The Desecration of the Second Temple".

 

[Davy]

No, Jesus pointed back to "the abomination that maketh desolate". See 1 Maccabees 1:54.

He was only informing, that it was the Jews themselves, who were about to commit the "seventh abomination".
Can you find the seventh abomination in Proverbs 6:16-17?

Jesus warned about the "abomination of desolation" for the END OF THIS WORLD, JUST PRIOR TO HIS 2ND COMING. Antiochus had been dead for almost 200 years when Jesus warned about that event for the END.

 

[Davy]

I contest your foul and futuristic view, that is foisted and artificially propped up by the "Tares" of "church-ianity".

Of course you are terribly wrong, because God's Word is what verifies that the final symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27, the 70th week, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS CHRIST'S MINISTRY AT HIS 1ST COMING. And it's true, only a devil could come up with that false tradition of men, because it would mean Lord Jesus setup an 'abomination' idol inside the Jerusalem temple! THAT... is what shows how crazy you people are on your devil doctrine.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Of course you are terribly wrong, because God's Word is what verifies that the final symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27, the 70th week, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS CHRIST'S MINISTRY AT HIS 1ST COMING. And it's true, only a devil could come up with that false tradition of men, because it would mean Lord Jesus setup an 'abomination' idol inside the Jerusalem temple! THAT... is what shows how crazy you people are on your devil doctrine.

there mere fact the things which we are told would occur at the end of the 70th week has yet to occure. Not to mention the thing which we are told we would see in the middle of the 70th week has not yet occurred.

well that leaves us with only one option does it not?

 

[Earburner]

:

Jesus warned about the "abomination of desolation" for the END OF THIS WORLD, JUST PRIOR TO HIS 2ND COMING. Antiochus had been dead for almost 200 years when Jesus warned about that event for the END.

Did you find the seventh abomination in Proverbs 6:16-17??
When you do find it, you will understand the next question.

Which temple was Jesus going to raise in three days?
When you know WHICH temple that was, you will then know WHO it was that committed the AoD and WHEN.

 

[Davy]

there mere fact the things which we are told would occur at the end of the 70th week has yet to occure. Not to mention the thing which we are told we would see in the middle of the 70th week has not yet occurred.

well that leaves us with only one option does it not?

Right. But what really amazes me is how some brethren can follow such an idiotic devil's doctrine that promotes the idea of Jesus being responsible for the events to occur on that 70th week of Daniel 9:27! They simply act like Jesus never gave any warning about the false one coming that will place the "abomination of desolation".

Because those deceivers do that, it tells me they are not of Christ.

 

[Earburner]

Of course you are terribly wrong, because God's Word is what verifies that the final symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27, the 70th week, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS CHRIST'S MINISTRY AT HIS 1ST COMING. And it's true, only a devil could come up with that false tradition of men, because it would mean Lord Jesus setup an 'abomination' idol inside the Jerusalem temple! THAT... is what shows how crazy you people are on your devil doctrine.

You have not yet found the SEVENTH abomination in Proverbs 6:16-17.
If you don't seek it out, you will NEVER KNOW the TRUTH of who it was that Jesus was POINTING AT, and WHO it really WOULD BE, that was GOING TO COMMIT the AoD, that Jesus did reference in Daniel and in 1 Maccabees 1:54

Clue #1: Jesus' words: "When YE shall see...." is not talking about our far future, but rather in THEIR very short future, and by whose "hands" it would be done by.

Again, what does the 7th abomination describe in Proverbs 6:16-17?
Clue #2: what did Pontius Pilate symbolically wash his hands from?? Matthew 24:27

Clue #3: A prophecy that HAS BEEN FULFILLED, can never be fulfilled again!!
However, it can be used in type and antitype, and that is exactly what Jesus was showing.

Note: the actual event prophesied in Daniel, was fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanese, as historically reported by the Jews themselves in
1 Maccabees 1:54.
That is what Jesus was referencing, and the Jews KNEW IT, because still to this day, they celebrate Hanukkah.

And yes, the 70th week HAS BEEN fulfilled!!!

 

[Earburner]

Right. But what really amazes me is how some brethren can follow such an idiotic devil's doctrine that promotes the idea of Jesus being responsible for the events to occur on that 70th week of Daniel 9:27! They simply act like Jesus never gave any warning about the false one coming that will place the "abomination of desolation".

Because those deceivers do that, it tells me they are not of Christ.

Just like the Jews. The truth is before you and you all reject it. The danger for you is, you don't know either, so therefore you choose to vainly hope that it is still future. And of course, you have "the tares" of "church-ianity" to lead you there.

With God, there is NO safety in numbers!

 

[Earburner]

Jesus warned about the "abomination of desolation" for the END OF THIS WORLD, JUST PRIOR TO HIS 2ND COMING. Antiochus had been dead for almost 200 years when Jesus warned about that event for the END.

That is what your "natural man", "the man of sin" interprets, not to mention the regurgitated slop it feeds off of, by the "tares" of church-ianity.

Does anyone here know how to apply "the Mind of Christ" in there personal study time?
If not, then please see John 16:13 AND DIGEST THAT, and not what the "tares" are shoving down your throat.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Of course you are terribly wrong, because God's Word is what verifies that the final symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27, the 70th week, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS CHRIST'S MINISTRY AT HIS 1ST COMING. And it's true, only a devil could come up with that false tradition of men, because it would mean Lord Jesus setup an 'abomination' idol inside the Jerusalem temple! THAT... is what shows how crazy you people are on your devil doctrine.

People go down rabbit holes via one verse being misconstrued or one misdiagnosis of a passage, and in this case they have been told Jesus' death happened in the middle of the week and that Jesus somehow repented for Israel, it makes no sense, but if you are taught 1 + 2 is 5 until you are 10 its hard to shake that misdiagnosis.

Its so easy to reconcile when the AoD is, but tunnel vision gets the best of us at times.

Dan. 12:11 is the AoD it happens 1290 days before all these wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) ends via the Second Coming, and we can look at Dan. 12:1-2 and see this all happens when Michael stands up (Rev. 12), and when the dead are raised and judged. So, it is very clear the AoD is at the vey end, but they are all in on these ideas, even though the math, the simple math, doesn't add up.

 

[Earburner]

People go down rabbit holes via one verse being misconstrued or one misdiagnosis of a passage, and in this case they have been told Jesus' death happened in the middle of the week and that Jesus somehow repented for Israel, it makes no sense, but if you are taught 1 + 2 is 5 until you are 10 its hard to shake that misdiagnosis.

Its so easy to reconcile when the AoD is, but tunnel vision gets the best of us at times.

Dan. 12:11 is the AoD it happens 1290 days before all these wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) ends via the Second Coming, and we can look at Dan. 12:1-2 and see this all happens when Michael stands up (Rev. 12), and when the dead are raised and judged. So, it is very clear the AoD is at the vey end, but they are all in on these ideas, even though the math, the simple math, doesn't add up.

You haven't figured it out yet, that Daniel 8 and Daniel 12 are saying the same story, about the "little horn" Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the agent of "the abomination that maketh desolate"- KJV.

It is being said again in ch. 12, just as the gospels of Mattew, Mark and Luke say the same story about Jesus, but from a different perspective.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

You haven't figured it out yet, that Daniel 8 and Daniel 12 are saying the same story, about the "little horn" Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the agent of "the abomination that maketh desolate"- KJV.

It is being said again ch. 12, just as the gospels of Mattew, Mark and Luke say the same story about Jesus, but from a different perspective.

Anyone that wants to understand prophecy has to understand MATH & TIMING, if you can't grasp that you will just be spinning your wheels in the sand.

Dan. 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (EBD TIME Rev. 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble(END TIMES with a Billion killed not 60,000 people), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

CLEARLY END TIME...................

Why would anyone think God would give us a Little Horn in Dan. 7 that is the end time Anti-Christ then one chapter later give us a "Little Horn" that is not the Anti-Christ? Both passages have to be tied together and that will give us the Birthplace of the coming Anti-Christ(write a blog n this 5 years agon). Everything in Dan. 8 describes the end time Anti-Christ he is clearly killed by the Prince (Jesus) of princes WITHOUT HANDS just like we see in Dan. 2 with the stone cut out of the mountain, without hands.

But the real sad thing is, MATH like that above is God's way of showing us secret understandings, TIMING is the key to solving most of God's prophesies and riddles.

Dan. 12:1-2 tells us that the dead are raise and judged at this time, and that the 1290 happens at this time.

Dan. 7 gives us his Kingdom (Rome/Europe). Dan. 8 gives us his lineage/birthplace (Greece) that is why we get such an incredible rundown of all the Greek kings in Dan. 11. And Isaiah 10 gives us his heritage/peoples, he will be born of Assyrian ancestry, thus he's of Turkish/Iraqi/Syrian heritage (those three made up Assyria) who is then born in Greece and who therefore must needs (by birth) come to power in the E.U. (Fourth Beasts Head). Turkey has a common border with Greece, and they have co-mingled for ages. You do the math.

 

[Earburner]

Dan. 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (EBD TIME Rev. 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble(END TIMES with a Billion killed not 60,000 people), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Which "end time", and which "book" is whose name's written in.
You and "church-ianty" don't really know, but I do.
See Malachi 3:16.

Daniel was for Israel, as Revelation is for Christ's Born Again people.

 

[Davy]

People go down rabbit holes via one verse being misconstrued or one misdiagnosis of a passage, and in this case they have been told Jesus' death happened in the middle of the week and that Jesus somehow repented for Israel, it makes no sense, but if you are taught 1 + 2 is 5 until you are 10 its hard to shake that misdiagnosis.

Its so easy to reconcile when the AoD is, but tunnel vision gets the best of us at times.

Dan. 12:11 is the AoD it happens 1290 days before all these wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) ends via the Second Coming, and we can look at Dan. 12:1-2 and see this all happens when Michael stands up (Rev. 12), and when the dead are raised and judged. So, it is very clear the AoD is at the vey end, but they are all in on these ideas, even though the math, the simple math, doesn't add up.

But of course since you are not understanding the Daniel 9 prophecy and how Jesus' Ministry ended with the end of the 69th week, then nor are you understanding the Daniel 12 timing either.

In Daniel 12, Daniel asks the angel when is the end of those "wonders", then he is given the prophecy beyond... that period. You still have to read and heed the below answer by the angel that comes first...

Dan 12:6-7
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by Him That liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
KJV

That is the period of 1260 days of the latter half of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week". That is the same timing of Daniel 7:25, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14, and Revelation 13:5. That is an ANCHOR in the Scriptures. We cannot change it, even when reading the rest of the Daniel 12 chapter.

1290 days = 1260 + 30; a period of 30 days AFTER... Christ's return, most likely a period of cleansing once the Jew's temple is destroyed at His future return.

1335 days = 1260 +30 +45; a period when the faithful are blessed per the fulfillment of the 45th Psalm, the "king's palace" being Jesus' future temple He is to build at His future return, the temple of Ezekiel 40 forward.

Ps 45:13-15
13 The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold.
14 She shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee.
15 With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace.
KJV

 

[Earburner]

But of course since you are not understanding the Daniel 9 prophecy and how Jesus' Ministry ended with the end of the 69th week, then nor are you understanding the Daniel 12 timing either.

In Daniel 12, Daniel asks the angel when is the end of those "wonders", then he is given the prophecy beyond... that period. You still have to read and heed the below answer by the angel that comes first...

Dan 12:6-7
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by Him That liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
KJV

That is the period of 1260 days of the latter half of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week". That is the same timing of Daniel 7:25, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14, and Revelation 13:5. That is an ANCHOR in the Scriptures. We cannot change it, even when reading the rest of the Daniel 12 chapter.

1290 days = 1260 + 30; a period of 30 days AFTER... Christ's return, most likely a period of cleansing once the Jew's temple is destroyed at His future return.

1335 days = 1260 +30 +45; a period when the faithful are blessed per the fulfillment of the 45th Psalm, the "king's palace" being Jesus' future temple He is to build at His future return, the temple of Ezekiel 40 forward.

Ps 45:13-15
13 The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold.
14 She shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee.
15 With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace.
KJV

Although this is hard to accept for MANY, because of the continual brainwashing, years ago (200-400AD), the "tares" of "church-ianity" effectively, but illegitimately, married the DEAD Old C. with the LIVING New C.

The ONLY things that are worth anything in the OT, is the history of the Jews, for an example unto us, and the prophecies about Jesus' FIRST appearance.

As Jesus did say:
John.5[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Daniel was written for "the end" of God's preferential treatment of Israel, as Revelation is written for
"the end" of God's Grace for the world.