Triumph1300
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I’m not, Jehovah’s Witness
Great.
Are you still following the RC doctrine?
I did not read the whole thread, just the last part of it.
Hard to figure out what you are by reading your last posts.
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I’m not, Jehovah’s Witness
Christendom’s record speaks for itself. It fulfills all the things that Jesus and the apostles warned about....”the wheat and the weeds”....the divisions, disunity and internal conflicts, not to mention the bloodshed (Isaiah 1:15)....and those in Christendom do not even notice that their “Christianity” is very different from what Christ taught, because it was corrupted so long ago that people think that their lies are the truth. (Acts 20:30; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; 2 Thessalonians 2:3)JWs are not Christians, and they sneeringly say that Gods judgment will first fall on Christians, which they label CHRISTENDOM.
Since the Bible does not say that Christ “rose bodily”, we believe what the scriptures say, and that the Bible itself explains Jesus’ physical appearance after his resurrection as a spirit.JWs can’t be saved in the watchtower cult because they don’t believe Jesus rose bodily from the dead, which is a required salvational belief.
You spew hatred with every post. I think we get it....you hate Jehovah’s Witnesses. Lots of people do because we don’t accept what you accept as “Christian” teaching. (John 15:18-21)Speaking bluntly and truthfully is not hatred.
The real difference is that you are not Jesus, and you do not have any authority to judge anyone’s salvation or lack of it....in fact Jesus warned that if you judge others as to worthiness of salvation, you will be judged in like manner. So I would be careful if I were you.....those whom Jesus says he “never knew” were going to be shocked at his rejection, imagining that their “Christianity” was acceptable to him......but he says that he “never knew “ them so it “never“ was. (Matthew 7:21-23)Jesus told some priests they were sons of the devil, snakes and vipers, whitewashed tombs rotten on the inside, blind guides who lead others into a ditch, who make their followers twice the sons of hell that they are.
If the current pandemic ends and we are permitted to go door to door again, anyone who asks me if I am “born again”, I will be happy to tell them that I am not....and why I am not unhappy about that in the least.Next time one knocks on your door ask him/her: Are you born again?
Here is what JW's believe about Jesus' statement: You must be "Born Again":
The purpose of the new birth is to prepare a "limited group of humans" for heavenly rulership
(Pulled right off the JW website)
No I am no longer a practicing Catholic, I’m non denominational at this point.Great.
Are you still following the RC doctrine?
I did not read the whole thread, just the last part of it.
Hard to figure out what you are by reading your last posts.
I never liked the term Born Again myself, and don’t consider myself Born Again.If the current pandemic ends and we are permitted to go door to door again, anyone who asks me if I am “born again”, I will be happy to tell them that I am not....and why I am not unhappy about that in the least.
I am sure that most “born again” Christians have no real idea what it even means to be “born again”.
Tell me what you think it means.....
Islam's history of violence pales in comparison to Catholicism's history of violence. The most conservative figures places the victims of Catholic-related violence at 50 million at least. The Bible is a lot more concerned about Catholic violence than Islamic violence, in part because Catholics have inflicted unspeakable havoc, destruction, death, and suffering on people in the name of Jesus and His Father. The Bible itself shows that God is so concerned about Catholic violence that a good portion of Revelation is dedicated to warning people against the deception and violence that this religion has engaged in throughout the entirety of its existence.How can Rome be more dangerous than Riyadh or Mecca? Who do you think funds the Islamist terrorists? Who do you think beheads innocents? The last thing people need is for someone to peddle the idea that "Islam is a religion of peace" (George W. Bush's stupid remark). Mohammad would laugh at such stupidity. People need to read and study the Koran, then review all the atrocities committed in the name of "Allah" (the most recent being in Texas, where thankfully the Pakistani terrorist was an incompetent, and only he was killed).
According to the Bible's standards of what makes someone a Christian, there wasn't a single Christian to be found among any of them. Claiming Christianity is nowhere the same thing as actually being a true adherent of biblical Christianity.The founders were mostly Christians- they would have laugh3d at you for asking if Christians should be involved in politics.
What you personally think doesn't matter. Daniel and other books describe God's Kingdom as a literal world ruling empire that will rule this planet. Have you not read Daniel's plain statements in chapter 2 where he distinctly tells Nebuchadnezzar that God's Kingdom will rule over the people of this world just as surely as the other 4 kingdoms in that dream did? Why do people insist on treating plain statements like they're merely allegorical or symbolic?The Kingdom Jesus speaks of is one of service. We are in danger of understating this because man's idea of kingdom has to do with territory ownership and domination....them and us mentality. I don't think Jesus' Kingdom has anything to do with domain as the whole new earth will sing God's praises.
Space as in territory, is not an issue for God....it is not limited.....and generosity; consider sperm with its millions upon millions of seeds yet only one is needed for fertilisation.
Consider the Universe in the context of generosity and a Creator God.....just on that principle alone it would have many inhabitants.
The real difference is that you are not Jesus, and you do not have any authority to judge anyone’s salvation or lack of it....in fact Jesus warned that if you judge others as to worthiness of salvation, you will be judged in like manner. So I would be careful if I were you.....those whom Jesus says he “never knew” were going to be shocked at his rejection, imagining that their “Christianity” was acceptable to him......but he says that he “never knew “ them so it “never“ was. (Matthew 7:21-23)
Amen! There are TWO of us that WOULD NOT "make that bet" with our soul:can a false Jesus save them?
I wouldn’t want to bet my soul on that.
The inquisition and the crusades against Jews and Protestants were evil - the crusades that stopped the invading Islamic hordes from conquering all of Europe, were not evil.Islam's history of violence pales in comparison to Catholicism's history of violence. The most conservative figures places the victims of Catholic-related violence at 50 million at least. The Bible is a lot more concerned about Catholic violence than Islamic violence, in part because Catholics have inflicted unspeakable havoc, destruction, death, and suffering on people in the name of Jesus and His Father. The Bible itself shows that God is so concerned about Catholic violence that a good portion of Revelation is dedicated to warning people against the deception and violence that this religion has engaged in throughout the entirety of its existence.
And before anyone claims that i'm just trying to bash the church, Rev. 17:5-6 states in no uncertain terms that this church and its protesting churches have murdered and persecuted more of God's true followers than any other false religion on the planet. This same book says Catholicism has been empowered by Satan for its entire existence and will once again go on a murdering spree when it is given the political power to enforce its dogma as law, just like it always has throughout the past 1800 years. God is a lot more concerned with Catholic-related violence because His true followers have always ended up being the target of this church's violence because they keep His commandments and refuse to subscribe to the trinity doctrine.
There is no mistake to be made about which religion God considers to be more dangerous between Catholicism and Islam, and it's high time people woke up and realize that the piousness of the Catholic church is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide its malevolent nature. The Bible says it looks like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon. What does that tell you?
According to the Bible's standards of what makes someone a Christian, there wasn't a single Christian to be found among any of them. Claiming Christianity is nowhere the same thing as actually being a true adherent of biblical Christianity.
What you personally think doesn't matter. Daniel and other books describe God's Kingdom as a literal world ruling empire that will rule this planet. Have you not read Daniel's plain statements in chapter 2 where he distinctly tells Nebuchadnezzar that God's Kingdom will rule over the people of this world just as surely as the other 4 kingdoms in that dream did? Why do people insist on treating plain statements like they're merely allegorical or symbolic?
are Catholics generally this rude and overbearing as guests on other sites, i wonder?Thank you, Mohamed for I shall put you on ignore its obvious you are a Muslim pretending to be a Christian.
you dont have the first clue as to what you are talking about, those were Israelis cheering, and ben Laden would have loved to have been responsible so that he could take credit, but declined to do so. It was so obviously an inside job that the Fire Dept wasnt fooled any, though.I saw 9/11 happen before my very eyes and felt the ground tremble when the Towers Pancaked, I saw all the so called regular Muslims cheer in the streets when it happened, Bin Laden masterminded it, I don’t believe Bin Laden worked for the CIA, he did it out of hatred of our backing of the Jews.
I’ll never forget that day and how my heart sunk, and I’ll never forgive the Mohamedens for what they did, they all will kill in the name of Allah, they care about nothing else but Allah.
well, if you wanted to do the RCC any favors you might consider claiming to be anywayI’m not, Jehovah’s Witness.
Curtis, I do not believe that Jesus rose from the dead "bodily"....I believe that the scripture says that God raised his son from the dead, "in the spirit"....that is, in spirit form so that he could return to the spirit realm from whence he came. (1 Peter 3:18)Jesus warned about judging hypocritically by condemning others for doing what they are themselves doing. and said to judge righteous judgment - which has nothing to do with refuting false doctrines that result In damnation that the various cults spit.
Let's see what Paul actually said in those verses....Scripture, not me, is clear that Jesus rose bodily from the dead, and that confessing belief that Jesus rose from the dead is a required salvational belief, per Romans 10:8-13.
No one who denies Jesus rose bodily from the dead, can be saved.
That is very true.....but what if you are the ones with the false Jesus, believing that he is part of a triune godhead that is actually never mentioned in the Bible? Will Jesus judge those who have altered the very nature of his God and Father, and have misrepresented the position of his son, as those who "worship with spirit and truth"? What if that old lie was created by the devil, who has been lying from his beginning. For those whom Jesus rejects at the judgment, there will be a moment of horror as they realize that the devil deceived them, well and truly. This is why only "few" are on the road to life....the "many" are on a super highway to destruction. (Matthew 7:13-14)Scripture is clear God must be worshiped in spirit and in TRUTH, which means that if someone has the wrong Jesus - such as a Jesus who was created as the angel Michael, who died but didn’t rise bodily from the dead - can a false Jesus save them?
I believe that you already have....I wouldn’t want to bet my soul on that.
Everyone of the 911 attackers were from Saudi Arabia and were Muslims.are Catholics generally this rude and overbearing as guests on other sites, i wonder?
you dont have the first clue as to what you are talking about, those were Israelis cheering, and ben Laden would have loved to have been responsible so that he could take credit, but declined to do so. It was so obviously an inside job that the Fire Dept wasnt fooled any, though.
well, if you wanted to do the RCC any favors you might consider claiming to be anyway
I have looked up this passage in several different translation and I can find no scripture that says Christ was raised "bodily"....not even the KJV. So where do you get this idea that he was raised in human bodily form? No scripture says that.
Are you aware of the scriptural support for that statement....?
Yes, I agree its a pointless exercise for the irresistible force to meet the immovable object.Yes, I saw how JW's twisted scriptures and the whole issue on their website.
No use even getting into it because I do have a bit of JW experiences and I know where it leads to.
In your opinion.....which counts for what?The Watchtower Society is way of track.
Why? Because you agree with him? What if you are both dead wrong....? What then?The previous post by Curtis sums some of it up.
Is it? What was Jesus referring to? Wasn't it the physical Temple?You mean other than where Jesus said He would rise bodily from the dead?
He said, tear down this temple, HIS BODY, and in three days it will be raised back up again.
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his BODY.
That’s incontrovertible.
The trinity is nowhere to be found in scripture unless one reads it into ambiguous verses.
do you believe everything that the MSM tells you, without reservation?Everyone of the 911 attackers were from Saudi Arabia and were Muslims.
That is very true.....but what if you are the ones with the false Jesus, believing that he is part of a triune godhead that is actually never mentioned in the Bible? Will Jesus judge those who have altered the very nature of his God and Father, and have misrepresented the position of his son, as those who "worship with spirit and truth"