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Okay...in an above post, I just announced
a mystery of God not publicly known until now, and perhaps I should elaborate. Perhaps even in another thread.
The mystery that Paul eluded to was regarding those who are "
alive and remain." Which is to say, those who have died to self as in the flesh, but are made alive in the Spirit to remain in the world as if left by Christ in what remains of sin, to be as Paul stated, "
for me to live is Christ." In other words, being "
alive and remaining" is to be as Christ continuing His work--"
no longer those who lives, but Christ who lives in them."
It is this mystery that causes us to disagree about what would seem to be written both for and against, which is not, but rather misunderstood, and only hereto explained against others who would and have explained the matter differently, much as we now see here.
This mystery is not going to be understood by all who hear it any more than all here agree on this issue, nor is it going to be understood any more than the precedence that I will sight for example. Nonetheless, it will explain both:
The mystery and the issue are not unlike, but rather are the same from opposite ends of the times appointed to this subject of salvation, as it is written of those things that were "before the foundation of the world."
Just as certain biblical facts have been explained in this way, as having been since the beginning or even "before" the foundation of the world...the matter that we are now discussing is of issue because it pertains to those things that fall "after" the foundation of the new heavens and new earth. Which, like their "
before" counterparts, can only be fully understood by the knowledge of their true origin and place in those things of God, as exceptions to the timing and the things of this world.
This is the need for both "
rightfully divide the word of truth" and "
the renewing of your mind." If it were not true, He would have told us otherwise, but this He told us. Which is just a small part of what was promise and was appointed for our times regarding being led into "
all truth."
And if you did not expect to be blown away... Why not? And why do some of you fight like Pharisees against the kingdom of God coming upon you? This is exactly what was promised!
So then...we are not to deny that Christ was slain before the foundation of the world, nor are we to deny that we "were" crucified and raised up with Him--but rather, we are to come to know that He who was before the foundation of the world has already taken the throne in spite of each event seemingly coming before or after the fact by those who have the minds of children. Likewise, if the word says those who are in Christ who comes "quickly", do not sin some millennia after He has achieve His victory--who are we to say otherwise? We are either foolish children slow to learn...or...we should likewise believe this is the way of things with God, even if not with men. And who is true--God, or men...men who can't see any further than their sin?
We have a choice. But just as many have not even embraced the idea of things the were before the foundation of the world--not even fully to embrace Christ who is named as such...these truths only come just as they are written, and "
each in his own order" until the times are fulfilled. Leaving some of you to consider all truth as it was appointed, and some to delay the times. But if you understood what I have just told you--you would know better than to delay, for that time of no more delay has come.