Rom 7
[1] Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
[2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
[3] So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
[4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
[5] For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
[6] But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[9] For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[10] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[11] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[12] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[13] Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
[14] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[15] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[16] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[20] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[21] I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[22] For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[23] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
[24] O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
WHAT is Paul talking about IN Rom 7?
The STRUGGLE for every man. ISRAEL, faithful to their Law, but yet may become dead and delivered From the Law, and Gentiles without the Law...will both have the SAME STRUGGLES...should they BECOME “DEAD unto Christ”.
* WHAT STRUGGLE? THE CARNAL MIND!!
* Dead unto Christ, results in death of the FLESH BODY, and RESTORATION of the soul (Pss 23:3), results in REBIRTH of a mans spirit (mans truth in his heart, reborn of Gods SEED), (soul & spirit CONVERTED)
and the Carnal Mind? REMAINS the SAME.
The Carnal Mind “IS” naturally AGAINST God. (Rom 8:7)
Man himself, Becoming Dead unto Christ, WILL struggle with His Carnal Mind STILL wanting to Control what the man THINKS, SAYS, DOES.
* THE BIG PICTURE IS: A man IN CHRIST, (Converted) also has CHRIST “IN” him, the Spirit of TRUTH in his new heart (quickened spirit), and HAS greater POWER, to MAKE the mans Carnal Mind, acquiesce to the thought of the mans new spirit, in his new hearts...thoughts. However IT IS THE man himself, who has the DIFFICULT TASK of MAKING his Carnal Mind acquiesce to the thoughts of his new spirit, in his new heart, to think, to speak, to do...according to his new spirit, new truth, new heart!
* Paul acknowledges the CARNAL MIND IS STILL present, evil, not spiritual, not renewed, and ever ready to cause a man to think, say, do that which in conflict with his restored soul and born again spirit...thus there will be times,
We will find ourselves, thinking, saying, doing, according to our Carnal Minds, rather than our restored soul and born again spirit...and hate it, suffer the consequences for it.
* It is AFTER Conversion, a man continues a life long journey, of MAKING his Carnal Mind, acquiesce to the thoughts of his restored soul and born again spirit’s thoughts, speaking, doing.....FOSTERING the posturing of HAVING A MIND...”OF Christ”.
* Do men stumble, allow “their Carnal Mind”, to control and think stupid things? blurt out stupid stuff? Do stupid things? Yep.
* Does that ^ UNDO, a mans restored soul? UNDO a mans quickened spirit?
No.
* Was that Paul’s frustration? Yep.
* Is that every converted mans frustration? Yep.
* Is Paul’s preaching pointing to his wanting to daily die to the thoughts of his Carnal Mind? IMO, yes.
CONTINUED;
[1] Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
[2] For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
[3] So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
[4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
[5] For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
[6] But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[9] For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[10] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[11] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[12] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[13] Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
[14] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[15] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[16] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[20] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[21] I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[22] For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[23] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
[24] O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
WHAT is Paul talking about IN Rom 7?
The STRUGGLE for every man. ISRAEL, faithful to their Law, but yet may become dead and delivered From the Law, and Gentiles without the Law...will both have the SAME STRUGGLES...should they BECOME “DEAD unto Christ”.
* WHAT STRUGGLE? THE CARNAL MIND!!
* Dead unto Christ, results in death of the FLESH BODY, and RESTORATION of the soul (Pss 23:3), results in REBIRTH of a mans spirit (mans truth in his heart, reborn of Gods SEED), (soul & spirit CONVERTED)
and the Carnal Mind? REMAINS the SAME.
The Carnal Mind “IS” naturally AGAINST God. (Rom 8:7)
Man himself, Becoming Dead unto Christ, WILL struggle with His Carnal Mind STILL wanting to Control what the man THINKS, SAYS, DOES.
* THE BIG PICTURE IS: A man IN CHRIST, (Converted) also has CHRIST “IN” him, the Spirit of TRUTH in his new heart (quickened spirit), and HAS greater POWER, to MAKE the mans Carnal Mind, acquiesce to the thought of the mans new spirit, in his new hearts...thoughts. However IT IS THE man himself, who has the DIFFICULT TASK of MAKING his Carnal Mind acquiesce to the thoughts of his new spirit, in his new heart, to think, to speak, to do...according to his new spirit, new truth, new heart!
* Paul acknowledges the CARNAL MIND IS STILL present, evil, not spiritual, not renewed, and ever ready to cause a man to think, say, do that which in conflict with his restored soul and born again spirit...thus there will be times,
We will find ourselves, thinking, saying, doing, according to our Carnal Minds, rather than our restored soul and born again spirit...and hate it, suffer the consequences for it.
* It is AFTER Conversion, a man continues a life long journey, of MAKING his Carnal Mind, acquiesce to the thoughts of his restored soul and born again spirit’s thoughts, speaking, doing.....FOSTERING the posturing of HAVING A MIND...”OF Christ”.
* Do men stumble, allow “their Carnal Mind”, to control and think stupid things? blurt out stupid stuff? Do stupid things? Yep.
* Does that ^ UNDO, a mans restored soul? UNDO a mans quickened spirit?
No.
* Was that Paul’s frustration? Yep.
* Is that every converted mans frustration? Yep.
* Is Paul’s preaching pointing to his wanting to daily die to the thoughts of his Carnal Mind? IMO, yes.
CONTINUED;