The Day comes.....

[Ronald Nolette]

Can you show where this 7 year time period fits in these passages that talk about the day of the Lord?

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

How does a 7 year time period come unexpectedly like a thief in the night? Will the destruction that arrives suddenly and unexpectedly like a thief in the night on the day of the Lord, which involves the burning up of the heavens and the earth, last for 7 years?

Dan. 9 and then in the book of revelation and the numerous passages in the OT that deswcribe the day of teh Lord as a time period and not a 24 hour day.

Even in the book of REvelation shows 2 distinct 1260 day frames which add to 7 years in Jewish reckining.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No...but there is only evil or good.

So besides redefining Scripture, you aslso redefine words used by people to communicate thoughts?

Spir·it- /ˈspirit/ the nonphysical part of a person God is non physical or spirit.

spir·it·u·al
[ˈspiriCH(o͞o)əl]
ADJECTIVE

1. relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things:
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" ·
   nonmaterial · inner · psychic · psychical · psychological · incorporeal ·
   [more]
2. relating to religion or religious belief:
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"

If you wish to communicate effectively with human beingsd, you need to talk lik eus and use the words as God allowed them to be defined, and not your own Mount Olympus dictionary.

 

[farouk]

So besides redefining Scripture, you aslso redefine words used by people to communicate thoughts?

Spir·it- /ˈspirit/ the nonphysical part of a person God is non physical or spirit.

spir·it·u·al
[ˈspiriCH(o͞o)əl]
ADJECTIVE

1. relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things:
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" ·
   nonmaterial · inner · psychic · psychical · psychological · incorporeal ·
   [more]
2. relating to religion or religious belief:
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"

If you wish to communicate effectively with human beingsd, you need to talk lik eus and use the words as God allowed them to be defined, and not your own Mount Olympus dictionary.

@Ronald Nolette Shows the value of independent word studies that look at context, etc.

 

[ScottA]

So besides redefining Scripture, you aslso redefine words used by people to communicate thoughts?

Spir·it- /ˈspirit/ the nonphysical part of a person God is non physical or spirit.

spir·it·u·al
[ˈspiriCH(o͞o)əl]
ADJECTIVE

1. relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things:
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" ·
   nonmaterial · inner · psychic · psychical · psychological · incorporeal ·
   [more]
2. relating to religion or religious belief:
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"

If you wish to communicate effectively with human beingsd, you need to talk lik eus and use the words as God allowed them to be defined, and not your own Mount Olympus dictionary.

You have that upside down and backwards: On the contrary, those who wish to understand God should be please to get to know Him, even by the renewing of their mind, and to become "like Him."

Therefore, I define all things as He does. Those who are His, hear His voice.

 

[Keraz]

If you don't understand that Jesus is the End, of course you would not understand what you have been reading of the events that are written. For those who would like to understand, that is why I said "Start with Jesus as the End and read the scriptures with Him being the time reference of all things."

This is gibberish.
The End does not come until after the Millennium. Rev 21 -22

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just; that the Lord should balance the account by sending judgement to those who afflict you, to give those who love and serve Him relief, when Jesus comes to punish the ungodly, with His mighty host in blazing fire. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, but on that great Day His glory will be revealed to all true believers. Isaiah 30:26, Psalm 18:7-15

This passage of Scripture is not describing the Glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. It is an event before then –‘ when He comes in blazing fire and reveals His glory among His own’. It does not fit how He destroys the armies that are attacking Jerusalem at His Return, then how the whole world will see Him.

2 Peter 3:7& 10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. The heavens will disappear with a roar and flaming fire will bring all the earth to judgement. Malachi 4:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of a fierce fire which will consume God’s enemies. Zephaniah 1:14-18

Psalms 110:5-6 The Lord at Your right hand – He crushes kings on the Day of His wrath. In majesty He judges the nations, causing destruction throughout the world. Ps.97:2

Revelation 14:14-20 On a white cloud, I saw a figure like a man, wearing a gold crown and holding a sharp sickle. Put in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come to harvest the earth. Then the angel that has authority over fire, called to Him - ‘Swing Your sickle now, for the earth’s grapes are ripe and ready for harvest. So the grapes were gathered and thrown into the great winepress of the Lord’s wrath. The blood flowed from it for 200 miles. Isaiah 63:1-6, Zephaniah 1:17


Jeremiah 51:5-6 Israel and Judah are not left widowed by their God, by the Lord. But their Land is full of guilt, condemned by the Holy One of Israel. Flee out of Babylon, [Babylon: a metaphor for any godless nation] each person for himself or you will perish for her sins. For now comes the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, He is paying her full recompense. Ezekiel 22:1-7, Revelation 18:4-8

Isaiah 17:1-10 Damascus will cease to be a city, just a heap of ruins forever desolate. On that Day, Jacobs strength will fade away, as when a reaper gathers the grain or as an olive tree is stripped at harvest and left with just a few berries. On that Day all will look to their Maker, all idols and the works of their hands are as rubbish. On that Day, your cities will be deserted and abandoned, because you have forgotten the Lord, your strength and protector. Jeremiah 9:12-13, Isaiah 6:11-12

Isaiah 17:12-14 Listen! It is the thunder of vast forces, like the roaring of mighty waters. Nations flee, driven before the storm like thistledown. At evening, all is terror, by morning all is gone. Such is the fate of those who conspire to attack us. Psalms 83, Isaiah 66:15-16 Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.


These Bible verses describe the next prophesied event – how God sends His right hand man, Jesus, to ‘ harvest the world of His enemies, those who conspire to attack His people’ This is also the Sixth Seal judgement, reiterated and described in over 100 Bible prophecies. This worldwide judgement of fire accurately fits how the earth would be affected by an unprecedented Coronal Mass Ejection. But as Isaiah and many other prophets say, His righteous people will be protected.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Dan. 9 and then in the book of revelation and the numerous passages in the OT that deswcribe the day of teh Lord as a time period and not a 24 hour day.

Even in the book of REvelation shows 2 distinct 1260 day frames which add to 7 years in Jewish reckining.

This response did not address what I asked in my post whatsoever. So, I will try again.

Can you show where this 7 year time period fits in these passages that talk about the day of the Lord?

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

How does a 7 year time period come unexpectedly like a thief in the night? Will the destruction that arrives suddenly and unexpectedly like a thief in the night on the day of the Lord, which involves the burning up of the heavens and the earth, last for 7 years?

Please address my questions this time. And show how your view fits with passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You have that upside down and backwards: On the contrary, those who wish to understand God should be please to get to know Him, even by the renewing of their mind, and to become "like Him."

Therefore, I define all things as He does. Those who are His, hear His voice.

No you mean you redefine things as you think god is telling you!

I am pleased to know Him and I do transform my mind. But you are just a cult leader wannabe telling people you have the real inside scoop of what Gods Word really says.

YOu join an extraordinarily long line of other deceived wannabes.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Can you show where this 7 year time period fits in these passages that talk about the day of the Lord?

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

How does a 7 year time period come unexpectedly like a thief in the night? Will the destruction that arrives suddenly and unexpectedly like a thief in the night on the day of the Lord, which involves the burning up of the heavens and the earth, last for 7 years?

Well if these verses stood alone- we would have a serious problem. But they don't so the anser is easy. 1 thess. 5 shows the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel or the 7 yeart trib. The antichrist will bring a false peace and prosperity to the world and then destruction comes.

2 Peter3 describes the day of the end of "time" from Rev. 21:

Revelation 21
King James Version

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

t\There are other passages that go into the destruction if you do no tknow them at all. @ Peter deswcribes the end of "time" and the onset of "eternity".

 

[ScottA]

This is gibberish.
The End does not come until after the Millennium. Rev 21 -22

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just; that the Lord should balance the account by sending judgement to those who afflict you, to give those who love and serve Him relief, when Jesus comes to punish the ungodly, with His mighty host in blazing fire. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, but on that great Day His glory will be revealed to all true believers. Isaiah 30:26, Psalm 18:7-15

This passage of Scripture is not describing the Glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. It is an event before then –‘ when He comes in blazing fire and reveals His glory among His own’. It does not fit how He destroys the armies that are attacking Jerusalem at His Return, then how the whole world will see Him.

2 Peter 3:7& 10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. The heavens will disappear with a roar and flaming fire will bring all the earth to judgement. Malachi 4:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of a fierce fire which will consume God’s enemies. Zephaniah 1:14-18

Psalms 110:5-6 The Lord at Your right hand – He crushes kings on the Day of His wrath. In majesty He judges the nations, causing destruction throughout the world. Ps.97:2

Revelation 14:14-20 On a white cloud, I saw a figure like a man, wearing a gold crown and holding a sharp sickle. Put in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come to harvest the earth. Then the angel that has authority over fire, called to Him - ‘Swing Your sickle now, for the earth’s grapes are ripe and ready for harvest. So the grapes were gathered and thrown into the great winepress of the Lord’s wrath. The blood flowed from it for 200 miles. Isaiah 63:1-6, Zephaniah 1:17


Jeremiah 51:5-6 Israel and Judah are not left widowed by their God, by the Lord. But their Land is full of guilt, condemned by the Holy One of Israel. Flee out of Babylon, [Babylon: a metaphor for any godless nation] each person for himself or you will perish for her sins. For now comes the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, He is paying her full recompense. Ezekiel 22:1-7, Revelation 18:4-8

Isaiah 17:1-10 Damascus will cease to be a city, just a heap of ruins forever desolate. On that Day, Jacobs strength will fade away, as when a reaper gathers the grain or as an olive tree is stripped at harvest and left with just a few berries. On that Day all will look to their Maker, all idols and the works of their hands are as rubbish. On that Day, your cities will be deserted and abandoned, because you have forgotten the Lord, your strength and protector. Jeremiah 9:12-13, Isaiah 6:11-12

Isaiah 17:12-14 Listen! It is the thunder of vast forces, like the roaring of mighty waters. Nations flee, driven before the storm like thistledown. At evening, all is terror, by morning all is gone. Such is the fate of those who conspire to attack us. Psalms 83, Isaiah 66:15-16 Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.


These Bible verses describe the next prophesied event – how God sends His right hand man, Jesus, to ‘ harvest the world of His enemies, those who conspire to attack His people’ This is also the Sixth Seal judgement, reiterated and described in over 100 Bible prophecies. This worldwide judgement of fire accurately fits how the earth would be affected by an unprecedented Coronal Mass Ejection. But as Isaiah and many other prophets say, His righteous people will be protected.

I am not going to debate your position of believing the foretold "lie" that results in "strong delusion"--it's a biblical fact.

You have the timing all wrong.​

But I have told you the truth according to "all truth" also foretold of these times. It was also foretold and warned that anyone who promoted the idea that "my Master is delaying His coming" would be "cut in two", cut out of the full promise, that is, that they should not know the whole truth until natural death.

I leave you to it.

 

[ScottA]

No you mean you redefine things as you think god is telling you!

I am pleased to know Him and I do transform my mind. But you are just a cult leader wannabe telling people you have the real inside scoop of what Gods Word really says.

YOu join an extraordinarily long line of other deceived wannabes.

You say you are pleased to know Him and do transform your mind...but you do not and have not, or you would know His methods.

You would know that virtually everyone sent by God to reveal His truth was and is accused just as you have accused me.

And what of those who are their accusers--what was and is their fate?

In a word: "Woe."​

 

[quietthinker]

Tch tch tch....the arrogance makes me want to hide my face!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You say you are pleased to know Him and do transform your mind...but you do not and have not, or you would know His methods.

You would know that virtually everyone sent by God to reveal His truth was and is accused just as you have accused me.

And what of those who are their accusers--what was and is their fate?

In a word: "Woe."​

Is there air up in your lofty perch?

YOu are quick to judge me based on how well I accept you ro not? that is the height of arrogqance.

I know many of His methods. How many I do not know I do not know.

But I know Himregardless of what you rinner feelings would lie to you about.

 

[ScottA]

Is there air up in your lofty perch?

YOu are quick to judge me based on how well I accept you ro not? that is the height of arrogqance.

I know many of His methods. How many I do not know I do not know.

But I know Himregardless of what you rinner feelings would lie to you about.

What "arrogance" is there in those who are sent by God, and who is more arrogant and judgmental than those who reject them with harsh words? ...No--there is no "air" up there.

But you, you too are known by your fruit.​

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What "arrogance" is there in those who are sent by God, and who is more arrogant and judgmental than those who reject them with harsh words? ...No--there is no "air" up there.

But you, you too are known by your fruit.​

Yes I am known by my fruits. but your pseudo spiritual language and pretewnd to knwo the hearts of individuals is typical of thousands of false preachers who have preceded you.

Who confirmed this high and lofty calling of yours? Are you submitted to a pastor/teacher for your perfection?

do you bless a local assembly with this supposed gift of yours?

No air uyp there? I guess then you suffer from spiritual asphyxia. I don't know you from Adam, but your self proffesed ministry of judgmentalism just doesn't wash. YOu write here like how they mysticized Jesus in the movie "Jesus of Nazareth". Made Him so phony"holy".

 

[ScottA]

Yes I am known by my fruits. but your pseudo spiritual language and pretewnd to knwo the hearts of individuals is typical of thousands of false preachers who have preceded you.

Who confirmed this high and lofty calling of yours? Are you submitted to a pastor/teacher for your perfection?

do you bless a local assembly with this supposed gift of yours?

No air uyp there? I guess then you suffer from spiritual asphyxia. I don't know you from Adam, but your self proffesed ministry of judgmentalism just doesn't wash. YOu write here like how they mysticized Jesus in the movie "Jesus of Nazareth". Made Him so phony"holy".

And this is the harvest.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

And this is the harvest.

Says scott a. As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord and not he whims of a pseudo spiritual one.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What "arrogance" is there in those who are sent by God, and who is more arrogant and judgmental than those who reject them with harsh words? ...No--there is no "air" up there.

But you, you too are known by your fruit.​

All you are doing is trying to gather a following to hang on your words. YOu use the same language as Koresh, Jones, Divine et. al. By you rlanguage and writing you make yourself as some kind of special prophet or one sent from God and to disagree with you is tantamount to disagreeing with God.

this is old stuff of cult leaders from the past.

I have been sent by god, but I wish to point people to the Lord and not my ministry. Hundreds of millions of others have been sent by god, and we talk like real people and not your mystic way of communication. that is how Jesus spoke like us, not you.

 

[ScottA]

All you are doing is trying to gather a following to hang on your words. YOu use the same language as Koresh, Jones, Divine et. al. By you rlanguage and writing you make yourself as some kind of special prophet or one sent from God and to disagree with you is tantamount to disagreeing with God.

this is old stuff of cult leaders from the past.

I have been sent by god, but I wish to point people to the Lord and not my ministry. Hundreds of millions of others have been sent by god, and we talk like real people and not your mystic way of communication. that is how Jesus spoke like us, not you.

Quoting for the record ("What comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”)

Yeah, right. Unless, of course one knows the truth...that He said things like “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you."

--You are as guilty as those who crucified Him.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all the arrogant and evildoers will be as stubble – that Day will burn them up, leaving them neither root nor branch.

Amos 5:18-20 Woe betide those who long for the Day of the Lord. What will that Day mean for you? It will be darkness, not light. It will be as when someone runs from a lion, only to be confronted by a bear, or as when he leans on a wall and is bitten by a snake. The Day of the Lord is indeed darkness, not light. In no way is this about the Return of Jesus.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord is near and coming fast, no runner is so swift as that Day. That Day is a Day of wrath, of anguish and torment, a Day of destruction and devastation, a Day of darkness and cloud, a Day of trumpet blasts and battle cries against fortifications. I shall bring dire distress on people, they will walk like the blind because of their sins against Me. Their blood will be poured out, their dead bodies like dung. Neither their silver or gold will avail to save them on the Day of the Lord’s wrath. By the fire of His jealousy, the whole land will be consumed, for He will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the land. This is also the “third swing of the sword” Ezekiel 21:8-16, the final judgement of Judah and cannot be at the Return.

Psalms 37:20 The enemies of the Lord will perish like fuel in a furnace, they will go up in smoke.

Isaiah 9:18-19 Wicked men have been set ablaze, like a fire fed with thorn bushes. They are wrapped in a pall of smoke, the land is scorched by the fury of the Lord and the people are fuel for the fire.

Isaiah 24:19-20 The earth is shattered, it is convulsed and reels wildly. The earth lurches like a drunkard and sways like a watchman’s shelter, because the sins of its inhabitants weigh heavily upon it, and it falls to rise no more.

‘falls, to rise no more’, from the chapter context, this is not complete or permanent, therefore the world recovers from it.

Revelation 6:12-17 I watched as the Lamb broke the Sixth Seal. There was a violent earthquake, the sun turned black and the moon red. The starry host [satellites?] fell to the earth, like figs blown off the tree and the sky rolled up like a scroll. All peoples were terrified and hid themselves, calling out: Who can hide us from the One who sits on the Throne and the wrath of the Lamb? For their great Day of vengeance and wrath has come and who can stand? Isaiah 34:4

Isaiah 2:12-22 The Lord has a Day of doom prepared, for all the proud and ungodly peoples. He alone, will be exalted on that Day. Everyone will throw away their idols and their money, they will crawl into hiding places when He comes to strike the world with terror. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged

All these verses listed above match with the Sixth Seal, an event that takes place before all the other Revelation happenings, such as the trumpet and Bowl judgements, the beasts, the fall of mystery Babylon and the rescue of the ‘Woman’. As it can be shown, the first five seal judgements have already been opened, therefore the next prophesied event that we can expect in our world will be the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath – a powerful and terrible judgement, by fire from the sun, that will destroy His enemies. This will make ‘a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land’, that is all the area from the Nile to the Euphrates, when enemies commence their attack on Israel. ‘all peoples will be terrified’.
This will affect all the world and will enable the formation of a One World government, also the gathering of the Christian Israelites into all of the holy Land.

Keep studying. I think the 6th seal has been opened. Which might be clear from Euphrates currently drying up. But the woman that was given wings like an eagle that gave birth to a manchild that was to rule the earth, well that is talking about Mary and Jesus clearly.

 

[Keraz]

Keep studying. I think the 6th seal has been opened. Which might be clear from Euphrates currently drying up. But the woman that was given wings like an eagle that gave birth to a manchild that was to rule the earth, well that is talking about Mary and Jesus clearly.

In no way can the Sixth Seal be opened yet. The cosmic and earthly effects have not happened yet.
Wait for the Day! We will surely know then. But my aim is to warn people about that forthcoming sudden and shocking worldwide disaster.

We Christians must stand firm in our faith and trust the Lord for His protection. 3 scriptures say we need to: Call upon the Name of the Lord and we will be saved.