YOU have committed several sins against the brethren, Behold.........
And you just lied, so, "repent".
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YOU have committed several sins against the brethren, Behold.........
Amen! Hebrews 12:8 - Now if you are exempt from correction and without discipline, in which all [of God’s children] share, then you are illegitimate children and not sons [at all]. (AMP)Hebrews 12:8 If God doesn’t discipline you as he does all of his children, it means that you are illegitimate and are not really his children at all.
And you just lied, so, "repent".
Amen! Hebrews 12:8 - Now if you are exempt from correction and without discipline, in which all [of God’s children] share, then you are illegitimate children and not sons [at all]. (AMP)
I have evidence, and to post that i dont, is not honest.
Taken, the liar wrote this....
L3astAm0ngManyB13ss3d said: ↑
"""""YOU (Behold) have committed several sins against the brethren, Behold........."""
So, WHAT SINS have i committed against anyone here?
The LIAR didn't name them as there are none.
Why? Because the LIAR is lying.
And "Behold" pointed out to the liar that this is a lie, and he needs to repent.
Which is true.
My point was’t about “YOUR” evidence of “BEING ACCUSED”.
My point was about...”WHERE was your accusers evidence”...
The same point you are making...
I think you quoted chapter 1. Chapter 5 (CEV) reads:So, you are wondering why, Paul is directly telling the SANCTIFIED Corinthians, to SHUN the acts of an NON-SANCTIFIED Corinthian, whose such acts are known he sleeps with his mother-in-law?
First of all, there is no mention of shunning, or a man sleeping with his mother-in-law.
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Doesn't it stand to reason the only reason he told them not to sin and be evil is because these saved Christians could still sin and be evil?
I appreciate that....
Initially that is what i thought you were saying, but, was not certain..
So, i'll delete the post i wrote to you, of course.
And you just lied, so, "repent".
You have confused Sin Against God, which a born again man CAN NOT DO...
With trespasses Against men, which ANY man can DO.
There is a Difference.
Sin is ONLY Against God.
ONLY God forgives Sin.
God REQUIRES the Death of your Body, BEFORE He saves your soul.
God REQUIRES your repentance for having NOT believed.
God REQUIRES your true hearts BELIEVE IN the Lord God.
God REQUIRES your true hearts CONFESSION of your Belief IN the Lord God.
Men trespass Against men.
Men are taught to repent for trespassing against men.
Men are taught to ask men for forgiveness of their trespasses against men.
Men are taught and should forgive men who trespass against them.
Man IS Not required to die for other men.
Man IS Not required to Believe in other men.
Man IS Not required to Confess Belief in other men.
Every time you say to another man...excuse men, pardon me, you are asking another to FORGIVE your trespass against them.
Every time you say to another man...I’m sorry, I apologize, you are often expressing remorse for your trespass Against them.
Please explain what lie I have told and I'll gladly repent.
Your original lie that was noted also by "Taken", is that you said im harming believers, on this forum.
This is a "lie".
So, you said that, which is a lie, and proven by the fact that you posted no quote, no lame attempt as your self deceived evidence, you just stated it, as if its proven.
That is the worst sort of lie.. The one that tries to harm by false accusation.
And you'll do it again, as LIARS do these things, L3astAm0ngManyB13ss3d.
Did you want to prove
YOU have committed several sins against the brethren, Behold.........
Maybe you should repent, confess and ask forgiveness from God & others in your offensive attitude and your words of rejection!
Salvation is a ONE TIME EVENT in a person's life. It is a turning away from sin unto the righteousness of God. A gift accepted or rejected. Stunted growth comes from by being hung there at the cross. Jesus FINISHED the work of God at the cross, then he moved on after his D,B,& R.
For 40 days after Passover until Pentecost, he re-instructed them in his word, established their faith & cemented their calling, THEN HE RETURNED TO THE HEAVENLY REALMS!
The Word has and is going out about God's amazing love, his UNMERITED grace & forgiveness and the cross of OUR SINS he bore in death.
As a servant with your Master gone away instead of USING his talent to procure souls in RIGHT understanding & growth; have you buried your talent?
You are discouraging and do not edify other and BTW this is my quote to you in post.
See how you twist what is said to make others look bad.
A downer, not a joyful person is what you portray and your attitude IS offensive to others.
Lol
You are not alone, your companions of the same are here.
Read Takens post again. He stated to difference between sinning against God or sinning against man as sin / forgiveness.
You must have LOVED Chubby Checkers, " Twist & Shout " record !
You have confused Sin Against God, which a born again man CAN NOT DO...
With trespasses Against men, which ANY man can DO.
There is a Difference.
Sin is ONLY Against God.
ONLY God forgives Sin.
God REQUIRES the Death of your Body, BEFORE He saves your soul.
God REQUIRES your repentance for having NOT believed.
God REQUIRES your true hearts BELIEVE IN the Lord God.
God REQUIRES your true hearts CONFESSION of your Belief IN the Lord God.
Men trespass Against men.
Men are taught to repent for trespassing against men.
Men are taught to ask men for forgiveness of their trespasses against men.
Men are taught and should forgive men who trespass against them.
Man IS Not required to die for other men.
Man IS Not required to Believe in other men.
Man IS Not required to Confess Belief in other men.
Every time you say to another man...excuse men, pardon me, you are asking another to FORGIVE your trespass against them.
Every time you say to another man...I’m sorry, I apologize, you are often expressing remorse for your trespass Against them.
And the crux...
Repent...to who?
Repent ...of what?
In this case, it is an issue between men...
One man making a claim, another man lied.
No evidence, simply an accusation.
The accused man, says that is false...repent.
To who...? The man accused.
For what...? A supposed “sin” of lying to another man.
Evidence? None.
And IS a man lying to another man “A SIN”?
How so?
If one mans truth, is not the same as an other mans truth...
Is one lying?
Is every mans truth the same? No.
Men have different likes and dislikes.
Men have different EXTENTS of knowledge and beliefs.
Sin is not men against men...less a man be UNDER A LAW that specifically is a WRITTEN Statute.
IS there a Specifically WRITTEN Statute given Gentiles that says, thou shalt not lie to another man?
Wouldn’t that ^ by default require EVERY single man to have the exact same knowledge about EVERY single man....and what man IS ALL KNOWING?
AND to ADD to the confusion....the claim on behalf of an other, who themselves made no such claim.
Conundrum.
Sin IS specifically AGAINST God. And ONLY God can FORGIVE SIN.
Men forgive men of trespasses against them.
I think you quoted chapter 1. Chapter 5 (CEV) reads:
I have heard terrible things about some of you. In fact, you are behaving worse than Gentiles. A man is even sleeping with his own stepmother.[a] 2 You are proud, when you ought to feel bad enough to chase away anyone who acts like this.
v2 is advocating shunning, even if not using that word, right? v 6-8 reads
Don't you know how a little yeast can spread through the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast! Then you will be like fresh bread made without yeast, and this is what you are. Our Passover lamb is Christ, who has already been sacrificed. 8 So don't celebrate the festival by being evil and sinful
Doesn't it stand to reason the only reason he told them not to sin and be evil is because these saved Christians could still sin and be evil?
So you DO NOT believe we sin against God when we trespass on our fellowman...............interesting!
I hope others read & re-read this assessment.......THEN read it again and again!