THE THRONE OF THE BEAST - HOW TO RECOGNIZE IT

[Truth7t7]

Did you even read my post? The Antichrist is a man and he is the 8th king

Will he be a lteral future human man?

 

[The Light]

The ten horned beast isn't a person. It isn't in Daniel and isn't in Rev. Go ahead, explain how Daniel's 4th beast is a person.

Why would I need to explain that Daniels 4th beast is a person? We already know that Daniels 4th beast is not a person. The question is why you think the Antichrist beast from the sea is the 4th beast of Daniel. Let's take a peek.

Daniel 7
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The 4th beast of Daniel 7 is not the same as the little horn. The little horn is the Antichrist. The ten kings receive power one hour with the beast

Revelation 7
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Now can you explain how a ten horned beast that isn't a man can come out of the pit?
Revelation 17
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

[The Light]

Will he be a lteral future human man?

Absolutely. The beast of the sea will be a literal man. He will be the eighth king who was and is not and will come again. He will ascend out of the pit. He is the little horn and the man of sin.

He will not be Jewish. He is the Assyrian and the king of Babylon. The Word tells us who the Antichrist is. Do you not know?

 

[Marilyn C]

Partly?


Well, don't they say that it jumps ahead 2000 years in verse 21?

21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

I always wondered why the jump to the end of years was not made in Daniel 11:5-6.

5 And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.

6 And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.

This is tough stuff to understand.




Isaiah 10
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.

Isaiah 31
8 Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, not of a mighty man; and the sword, not of a mean man, shall devour him: but he shall flee from the sword, and his young men shall be discomfited.

Micah 5
5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

But don't forget these

Isaiah 14
3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!


And yet, he was and is not and will come again.

I think you are mixing the 7th and the 8th kings. I believe it will be the 7th king that will be the rider on the white horse at the opening of the 1st seal. He is "AN" Antichrist. I believe the 7th king is the one that confirms a 7 year covenant. He will claim to be the Christ and will seek to fulfill in the eyes of Israel the 70th week of Daniel. However, he is not "THE" Antichrist.

THE Antichrist is the eighth king who is the man of sin. Two different people. THE Antichrist is the Assyrian and the King of Babylon who was and is not and will come again. The word tells who the Antichrist is.

Hi The Light,

Glad we can agree and share more scriptures.

In Dan. 21 it is just describing the person, however later on in v. 27 & 35 it says `the time appointed. ` That is very specific concerning when.

The 4 horsemen are symbolic of the 4 great federations of our time that the Father is bringing to His Son`s feet for judgment. (Ps. 110: 1) The scroll is a judgment scroll, like a legal document from the Father.

I also believe the 7th GG leader after 6 have had a turn, is the A/C. The 8th leader is Satan who takes over the 7th. Satan is the one who `was & is and is to come. ` A person can`t be that.

 

[Marilyn C]

Why would I need to explain that Daniels 4th beast is a person? We already know that Daniels 4th beast is not a person. The question is why you think the Antichrist beast from the sea is the 4th beast of Daniel. Let's take a peek.

Daniel 7
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The 4th beast of Daniel 7 is not the same as the little horn. The little horn is the Antichrist. The ten kings receive power one hour with the beast

Revelation 7
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Now can you explain how a ten horned beast that isn't a man can come out of the pit?
Revelation 17
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Hi The Light,

The word `beast` is used to describe a few things - the Global government, its leader, and Satan. You need to read the context for each.

1. The Global Government. `And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and on his horns 10 crowns, and om his head a blasphemous name.` (Rev. 13: 1) Daniel 7 gives more detail of this.

2. The GG leader (7th) - `I saw ONE OF ITS HEADS as if it had been wounded....he was given a mouth speaking great things...` (Rev. 13: 3 & 5)

3. Satan - `And the beast that was, and is not and yet is...` (Rev. 17: 8) No one but Satan is that.
He has different names to describe his tactics & character - Serpent, dragon, devil, Satan, plus Apollyon, destroyer, & beast, dangerous.

 

[ewq1938]

Why would I need to explain that Daniels 4th beast is a person? We already know that Daniels 4th beast is not a person.

Then you should know the Rev 13:1 ten horned beast is also not a person since it is meant to be the same beast.

 

[Truth7t7]

Absolutely. The beast of the sea will be a literal man. He will be the eighth king who was and is not and will come again. He will ascend out of the pit. He is the little horn and the man of sin.

He will not be Jewish. He is the Assyrian and the king of Babylon. The Word tells us who the Antichrist is. Do you not know?

"We agree" except him being Assyrian, Israel will only accept a Jew from the lineage of King David

 

[Zao is life]

Do you believe the events below described in Genesis Chapter 19 "Literally" took place, Sodom and Gomorrah were "Destroyed" or was this a "Metaphor"?

Genesis 19:12-13 & 23-25KJV
12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.


23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Truth7t7 try and concentrate now. Force yourself to actually read what's written here:

Of course I believe that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in the way Genesis says they were. They became a biblical type of later destructions of nations:

The biblical type: Sodom and Gomorrah

antitype example # 1:

Destruction of ancient Babylon ("the nations" of the Babylonian Empire)

Isaiah 34:8-10:
For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, the year to repay for the fighting against Zion. And its streams shall be turned into pitch, and its dust to brimstone, and its land shall become burning pitch. It shall not be put out night or day; its smoke shall go up forever. From generation to generation it shall lie waste; none passes through it forever and forever.

antitype example #2

Revelation 14:10-11:
And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And they have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

The biblical type:

Destruction of ancient Babylon ("the nations" of the Babylonian Empire)

Isaiah 34:4:
And all the host of the heavens shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled like a scroll; and all their host shall droop, as a leaf falls off from the vine, and as the falling from the fig tree.

Note: It's metaphor being used. The heavens were not dissolved and rolled up like a scroll. The leaf falling from the vine or the fig tree is a simile.

The anti-type

Destruction of the nations

Revelation 16:13-14:
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

There are so many examples of this fact and reality all over prophetic scripture and also in the Psalms, for example:

Metaphor:

Psalm 75:7-8
"But God is the judge; He puts down one and sets up another. For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is fully mixed; and He pours out from it; but the dregs of it, all the wicked of the earth shall drain its dregs and drink."

Psalm 75:2-3
"When I take the appointed time, I will judge uprightly. The earth and all its people are melting away; I hold up its pillars. Selah."

The metaphor of the cup is used in prophecies about both the destruction of ancient Babylon (the type) and the destruction of the nations in Revelation 14 and 15:

Revelation 14
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the anger of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even to the bridles of the horses, for the space of a thousand, six hundred stadia.

Revelation 15
1 And I saw another sign in Heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels with the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

Your complete inability to distinguish between the metaphor and the literal in scripture is not unique to you. Due to ignorance of (and hence a complete failure to recognize) the metaphor used in the above passages, many Christians wind up believing that different prophecies about different nations in different epochs are talking about the same events at the same point in human history.

Combining different prophetic events in this way is nonetheless a complete fallacy, and has resulted in no small amount of confusion once the misunderstanding has turned a computer mouse into software that highlights all sorts of prophetic events seen in the Old Testament, and drags them out of their historical context and proper place, dropping them into a folder titled "the return of Christ and the book of Revelation".

 

[Zao is life]

Then you should know the Rev 13:1 ten horned beast is also not a person since it is meant to be the same beast.

A king is a person. The 10 kings are persons. The 8th king that they hand their authority to is a person, and the 8th king is the beast that ascends from the abyss.

Ignoring what it says about the mortal wound to the head that had been healed, you assume that because the 8th king is not mentioned in Revelation 13, it's a kingdom with 10 kings only. So the false prophet will be causing people to worship a kingdom, according to your assumption.

Also, a beast is indeed a kingdom and horns are kings or at least rulers. The false prophet is a beast with two horns - not one horn. One kingdom with two rulers is a false prophet who causes all dwelling on the earth to worship the beast, who is a man because he is the 8th king. That beast from the earth could be referring to any kingdom (for example, Israel). We are not told, but we are told that the false prophet is a beast with two horns.

The man of sin is not said in 2 Thessalonians 2 to be doing the miracles and lying wonders himself. He is said to place himself in the Tabernacle of God and set himself forth as God. Paul said his coming will be in accordance with the working of Satan with miracles and lying wonders Satan will give the beast from the sea his seat, power and great authority. It does not mean the man of sin does the miracles and lying wonders himself.

The beast from the sea blasphemes God and the Tabernacle of God and those dwelling in heaven. The man of sin seats himself in the tabernacle of God setting himself forth that he is God, but the beast from the sea does not perform the miracles and lying wonders himself - the false prophet does.

You make a few assumptions in your interpretation of the passages, instead of sticking to what we are told and what we are not told.

 

[No Pre-TB]

what then about a kingdom arising "from the Earth" which is the antithesis of the sea, and went on to become a superpower capable of enforcing the Mark of the Beast on everyone?

We are told men rise from the earth since Adam
We are told the 4 Kings rise from the earth. They are men.
And we are told the False Prophet rises from the earth. Again, he’s a man

Not once do we see a kingdom rise from the earth. Scripture validates scripture

 

[Zao is life]

We are told men rise from the earth since Adam
We are told the 4 Kings rise from the earth. They are men.
And we are told the False Prophet rises from the earth. Again, he’s a man

Not once do we see a kingdom rise from the earth. Scripture validates scripture

But we are told it's a beast with two horns and a beast is a kingdom and horns are kings or rulers.

So you could be right but you could be wrong, and the Revelation doesn't actually tell anyone whether you are right or wrong. We could all be wrong.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Yeah well everyone else who guesses and disagrees with your guess "knows because the Holy Spirit showed them". But you have Daniel's 70th week cut out of its 1st century chronological fulfillment and pasted into the final seven years before the return of Christ - and that's not the Holy Spirit, but human imagination.

That is not my problem, it is up to you to be able to understand the nuances, that is on you sir. If Paul and Peter taught but 100 others taught differently, those deciding to heed them over Paul and Peter would only be doing so because THEY THEMSELVES do not know how to hear the small still voice of the holy spirit. It is not my job to teach others per se how to hear the holy spirit, my job is to teach the truth, that is something Satan loves, BUT......BUT......BUT, they all say different things, those led by the hoy spirit hear the voice of the holy spirit, those who get sidetracked allow Satan to deceive them in many varied ways, like Peter did when he cut the mans ear off. Do you really think everyone here is really called unto Prophecy? You are not going to get facts about Prophecy from men not called unto Prophecy, they are mostly guessing.

The fact that you can't see the difference is not on me, its on you. When you get to heaven and tell God you were confused, He is going to say well I sent you a guy to teach end time eschatology and you got distracted. God can only send you the facts, He can't make you discern them, that has to come via fasting, prayer, and much study.

Anyone who does not get that Daniel's 70th week is end times has no hope of understanding End Time Eschatology brother. The fact tat you can't grasp that AD 70 is more than 7 years from Jesus death(even if it was 70 ADM it's not) and thus there has to be a gap, BUT then you say it can't be a 2000 some odd year gap, when the fact is there were THEEE MARKERS and THREE DIFFERENT PROPHESIES, not one prophesy. We had a Wall (49 Years) the death of Jesus came 434 years after that, but because Israel rejected her Messiah, and a CONDITION for the 70th weeks to end was Israel has to repent during the 70th week as a nation, therefore God put off the 70th week, and the Kingdom Age. At the 70 AD point God made Israel as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years, until the very end times when He brought them back into their homeland. We see that Israel repents in Zechariah 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the DOTL arrives in Zechariah 14:1. I actually have a blog that proves all this on the 70 weeks, Israel MUST REPENT before the 70 weeks end. Did you know that Daniel was reading the book of Jeremiah in Dan. 9:1-18 and praying and that is why the Angel showed up to tell him Israel would be freed, but their punishment was TIMED by 7 because they still had not repented, most of the Jews wanted to stay in Babylon. So, that is where we get the 70 times 7 Prophecy from Gabriel's mouth.

The fact you are so confident about a wrong understanding tells me why you can't see these things.

C'mon now. The Holy Spirit has not given you one understanding and everyone else another understanding that disagrees with yours and with one another's.

Satan is the author of CONFUSION. 1.) Most on here have no calling to Prophecy. 2.) You do know this sounds kinda weird, did God give Prophetic understanding to MANY in the Old Testament or just a few? WHY? Because those people went into the Desert to fast and pray, to get away from other humans so they wouldn't be confused etc. So, there are those called to prophesy, most aren't, and there are those who are far more dedicated than others. Jesus was LED by the Spirit into the Desert, he went through tests by Satan, he OBEYED in all things, and ONLY THEN did he come out of the desert in the POWER of the Spirit. And Yes, God gives to those who seek his face, if people are watching football on Sat and Sun. or has too much to do to seek out God then you are not going to get very much from the Holy Spirit. That should be obvious.

Your guess is as good as everyone else's, which isn't very good at all because you all use your magic P.C mouse, which all by itself highlights too many Old Testament prophetic texts, dragging them all into a folder titled "the end of this Age and the return of Christ", despite the fact that though using the same metaphor and often hyperbole that the Revelation uses (and that all prophetic literature is saturated with, as well as quite a few Psalms), most of those Old Testament prophecies are speaking about events that have already been fulfilled,

And you all believe that the Holy Spirit has been your guide - not admitting for one second to yourselves that human imagination gets in the way, and that is your own problem as much as the problem of any other. The proof lies in the fact that your interpretations all differ.

Which confuses you because you do not understand Prophecy, I get it.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Remember this little horn is the beast that was and is not and will come again. He was before Johns time. Something for you to think about.

No he is not, the Little Horn is the Anti-Christ who has 10 CROWNS in Rev. 13, the Scarlet Colored Beast is Apollyon who arises from the Bottomless Pit.

 

[No Pre-TB]

But we are told it's a beast with two horns and a beast is a kingdom and horns are kings or rulers.

So you could be right but you could be wrong, and the Revelation doesn't actually tell anyone whether you are right or wrong. We could all be wrong.

A beast is not a kingdom unless it rises from the sea. Being a beast, really the word is evil beast and not beast like cattle, is its nature. Daniel 7 explains Revelation 13.
2 beasts. One from the earth, one from the sea.
Scripture validates scripture and it’s always right.

 

[Zao is life]

That is not my problem, it is up to you to be able to understand the nuances, that is on you sir. If Paul and Peter taught but 100 others taught differently, those deciding to heed them over Paul and Peter would only be doing so because THEY THEMSELVES do not know how to hear the small still voice of the holy spirit. It is not my job to teach others per se how to hear the holy spirit, my job is to teach the truth, that is something Satan loves, BUT......BUT......BUT, they all say different things, those led by the hoy spirit hear the voice of the holy spirit, those who get sidetracked allow Satan to deceive them in many varied ways, like Peter did when he cut the mans ear off. Do you really think everyone here is really called unto Prophecy? You are not going to get facts about Prophecy from men not called unto Prophecy, they are mostly guessing.

The fact that you can't see the difference is nor on me, its on you. When you get to heaven and tell God you were confused, He is going to say well I sent you a guy to teach end time eschatology and you got distracted. God can only send you the facts, He can't make you discern them, that has to come via fasting, prayer, and much study.

Anyone who does not get that Daniel's 70th week is end tine has no hope of understanding End Time Eschatology brother. The fact tat you can't grasp that AD 70 is more than 7 years from Jesus death and thus there has to be a gap, BUT then you say it can't be a 2000 some odd year gap, when the fact is there were THEEE MARKERS and THREE DIFFERENT PROPHESIES, not one prophesy. We had a Wall (49 Years) the death of Jesus came 434 years after that, but because Israel rejected her Messiah, and a CONDITION fir the 70th weeks to end was Israel has to repent during the 70th week as a nation, then God put off the 70th week, and the Kingdom Age, then God made Israel as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years, until the very end times when He brought them back into their homeland. We see that Israel repents in Zechariah 13:8-9 JUST BEFORE the DOTL arrives in Zechariah 14:1. I actually have a blog that proves all this on the 70 weeks, Israel MUST REPENT before the 70 weeks end. Did you know that Daniel was reading the book pf Jeremiah in Dan. 9:1-18 and praying and that is why the Angel showed up to tell him Israel would be freed, but their punishment was TIMED by 7 because they still had not repented, most of the Jews wanted to stay in Babylon. So, that is where we get the 70 times 7 Prophecy from Gabriel's mouth.

The fact you are so confident about a wrong understanding tells me why you can't see these things.


Satan is the author of CONFUSION. 1.) Most on here have no calling to Prophecy. 2.) You do know this sounds kinda weird, did God give Prophetic understanding to MANY in the Old Testament or just a few? WHY? Because those people went into the Desert to fact and pray, to get away from other humans so they wouldn't be confused etc. So, there are those called, most aren't, and there are those who are far more dedicated than others. Jesus was LED by the Spirit into the Desert, he went through tests by Satan, he OBEYED, and then he came out of the desert in the POWER of the Spirit. And Yes, God gives to those who seek his face, if people are watchin g football on Sat and Sun. or has too much to do to seek out God then you are not going to get very much from the Holy Spirit. That should be obvious.


Which confuses you because you do nit understand Prophecy, I get it.

I do understand. It's you who does not understand. And since by your own admission you have appointed yourself to teach, your failure to understand is making you a false teacher.

I hope you at least have the gospel right because the prophetic books are your imagination influenced by the imagination of others who came before you and influenced your thinking.

 

[Zao is life]

A beast is not a kingdom unless it rises from the sea. Being a beast, really the word is evil beast and not beast like cattle, is its nature. Daniel 7 explains Revelation 13.
2 beasts. One from the earth, one from the sea.
Scripture validates scripture and it’s always right.

Scripture is always right but you may be among those whose teaching of your own interpretations of scripture would invalidate scripture were scripture be capable of being invalidated by your opinions. I'm not sure to what extent that may be, in your case, because I have not paid close enough attention to all your interpretations of scripture yet.

No one said anything about cattle. The book that establishes the meaning of the symbol of a beast is Daniel. Daniel does not write anything that makes you assume (your false assumption) that a beast must rise from the sea. But your false assumptions do no invalidate scripture, as you correctly point out.

 

[The Light]

I do understand. It's you who does not understand. And since by your own admission you have appointed yourself to teach, your failure to understand is making you a false teacher.

I hope you at least have the gospel right because the prophetic books are your imagination influenced by the imagination of others who came before you and influenced your thinking.

He certainly understands one thing. Israel must repent before the 70th week is over.

 

[Truth7t7]

Truth7t7 try and concentrate now. Force yourself to actually read what's written here:

Of course I believe that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in the way Genesis says they were. They became a biblical type of later destructions of nations:

The biblical type: Sodom and Gomorrah

antitype example # 1:

Destruction of ancient Babylon ("the nations" of the Babylonian Empire)

Isaiah 34:8-10:
For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, the year to repay for the fighting against Zion. And its streams shall be turned into pitch, and its dust to brimstone, and its land shall become burning pitch. It shall not be put out night or day; its smoke shall go up forever. From generation to generation it shall lie waste; none passes through it forever and forever.

antitype example #2

Revelation 14:10-11:
And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And they have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

The biblical type:

Destruction of ancient Babylon ("the nations" of the Babylonian Empire)

Isaiah 34:4:
And all the host of the heavens shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled like a scroll; and all their host shall droop, as a leaf falls off from the vine, and as the falling from the fig tree.

Note: It's metaphor being used. The heavens were not dissolved and rolled up like a scroll. The leaf falling from the vine or the fig tree is a simile.

The anti-type

Destruction of the nations

Revelation 16:13-14:
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

There are so many examples of this fact and reality all over prophetic scripture and also in the Psalms, for example:

Metaphor:

Psalm 75:7-8
"But God is the judge; He puts down one and sets up another. For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is fully mixed; and He pours out from it; but the dregs of it, all the wicked of the earth shall drain its dregs and drink."

Psalm 75:2-3
"When I take the appointed time, I will judge uprightly. The earth and all its people are melting away; I hold up its pillars. Selah."

The metaphor of the cup is used in prophecies about both the destruction of ancient Babylon (the type) and the destruction of the nations in Revelation 14 and 15:

Revelation 14
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the anger of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even to the bridles of the horses, for the space of a thousand, six hundred stadia.

Revelation 15
1 And I saw another sign in Heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels with the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

Your complete inability to distinguish between the metaphor and the literal in scripture is not unique to you. Due to ignorance of (and hence a complete failure to recognize) the metaphor used in the above passages, many Christians wind up believing that different prophecies about different nations in different epochs are talking about the same events at the same point in human history.

Combining different prophetic events in this way is nonetheless a complete fallacy, and has resulted in no small amount of confusion once the misunderstanding has turned a computer mouse into software that highlights all sorts of prophetic events seen in the Old Testament, and drags them out of their historical context and proper place, dropping them into a folder titled "the return of Christ and the book of Revelation".

The future event seen in Luke 17:29-30 below will be "Literal Fire and Brimstone" at the return of Jesus Christ, just as Sodom and Gomorrah was literal

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[Zao is life]

The future event seen in Luke 17:29-30 below will be "Literal Fire and Brimstone" at the return of Jesus Christ, just as Sodom and Gomorrah was literal

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

No. It's an analogy regarding the sudden return of Christ, in keeping with the context of the passage.

Luke 17
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it also shall be in the days of the Son of man.
27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and the flood came and destroyed them all.

Matthew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered into the ark.
39 And they did not know until the flood came and took them all away. So also will be the coming of the Son of man.
40 Then two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Therefore watch; for you do not know what hour your Lord comes.
43 But know this, that if the steward of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched and would not have allowed his house to be dug through.

It has nothing to do with the method of destruction or judgment. Sodom was not destroyed by a world-wide flood, and the world was not destroyed with fire and brimstone in the days of Noah.

If you become able to tell the difference between metaphor and what it's speaking of, then you will be able to tell the difference between the analogy and what it's speaking of.

The passage you quote is speaking only of the sudden return of Jesus in the defeat of His enemies - the beast and his armies, and the false prophet, and their destruction in the lake of fire - which is another metaphor for the everlasting destruction of those entities (not of the planet, but of the beast and false prophet).

2 Peter 3:10-12 is also not speaking about the destruction of the planet but of the works of men and the rudiments of this world (i.e its current systems).

 

[Zao is life]

He certainly understands one thing. Israel must repent before the 70th week is over.

He and you clearly don't understand that Israel is the people in Christ - Jew and Gentile, and they don't need to repent before Christ comes back - but the world - all unbelieving people - Jew and Gentile - needs to repent before Christ comes back - whether within the last 7 years before His return, the last 7 days, or the last 70 years, or (preferably) NOW.

Except it isn't going to happen. Only those who are in Christ are Israel.

But you have both also cut the fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel out of the first centruty where God has it and placed it where you'd prefer it to be, so there's not much hope you'll be getting much else right either.