THE THRONE OF THE BEAST - HOW TO RECOGNIZE IT

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Head of Assyria and head of the Northern kingdom of Israel, circa 790 B.C:
The Anti-Christ will have Assyrian (Turk/Iraqi parts of Syria) blood. But he must be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and arise to power out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Territory on a map). So, he's Assyrian by blood, he's born in Greece which is in the E.U. The 10 arise out of the "Head" (Territory) first, the number 10 stands for completion in God speak, not 10. Thus the 10 Commandments and 10 Plagues represents God's full laws and Judgment. In Rev. 2:10 Smyrna were told they would have tribulation 10 days, that means the complete church age because Jesus says all time on earth is tribulation in John 16:33. We know the 10 Brides represents the full church, so UNDERSTANDING what 10 really means in God speak is very essential.

This is reflected in the crowns on the dragon's seven heads in Revelation 12:3, and on the horns of the ten kings in Revelation 13:1.

Seat of Satan, 1st century, A.D: Pergamon:
Jesus was merely lifting up the Pergamum Church because even with a Temple unto Zeus, which was really Baal or Satan, they continued in their faithfulness, but that does not mean "Satan's ONLY THRONE" was in Pergamum, as you say, he is the god of this whole world. But Zeus and Jupiter temples were in many places. So, Jesus is merely saying, Hey, even though there is a Temple to Satan's Power there in you city, you have remain ed Faithful. That in no way is saying the Anti-Christ will arise in Turkey, as some think.

As per THE CROWNS, since Satan is over the whole world he has a crown over every city, nation etc. in the world, remember Luke 4, Satan took Jesus and should him the kingdoms of ALL THE WORLD? Which were given unto him, so te only reason the CROWNS are shown on the 7 Heads (VERY IMPORTANT) is that there are 7 Kingdoms that will Beast over or Rule over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region down through the ages while Israel is in the land, the 2000 years she was as Dead Men's Bones matters not, this is about Beast powers over the people of Israel. The Ottoman Empire nor the Brits were Beasting over Israel, so the 7 Heads are this, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome AND the Coming Anti-Christ once he heals the wound to the figurative 7 headed beast by conquering Israel during the 70th week. Rome fell to Christianity, Jesus said my church will not be overcome by the gates of hell, the blood of the church overcame the Roman Beast, we turned her from a Beast to a conveyor belt of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, thus the Mortal Wound of the figurative beast.

God IDENTIFIES all three Beasts via the CROWNS, Rev. 12 is the Dragon/Satan thus he has CROWNS on the 7 Heads in the Region, just as he is over the whole world. The Rev. 13 Beast only has CROWNS on the 10 Horns/Kings because they are the reunified Europe or E.U. They can be 20-30 nations, but 10 means the COMPLETE NUMBER THEREOF in God speak. The Scarlet Colored Beast is not Satan nor the Anti-Christ, that is why he has NO CROWNS on any heads or horns in Rev. 17 !! He is Scarlet nor Red because he is not Satan, he is Apollyon, the Demon locked into the pit when Rome fell via the Mortal Wound. He was placed over the Mediterranean Sea Region by Satan, thus he was OF THE SEVEN, and he is an 8th (King of the Pit). He was over Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, he will be released at the 1st Woe and will be over the Anti-Christ. Thus he is of the 7 and is an 8th with NO CROWNS himself, he arises from the bottomless pit right after that verse. God loves His riddles.

Note: The seat / throne of Satan is the head of the beast.

Revelation 17

10 And there are seven kings; five have fallen, and one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, who have received no kingdom yet, but will receive authority as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.
This is God demonstrating that the LAST BEAST will be a Man, not a Nation because he both ARISES (Mountain) and FALLS (as a king that falls) whereas this happened to none of the other Beasts they all passed their kingdoms on to others. Thus the LAST BEAST is called a Man in Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20, God wants us to know that the last beast is ONE MAN who will both arise and fall as the only Beast of the end times. (God loves His riddles). The 10 (E.U.) receive no power [as a Beast over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region] except for ONE HOUR (3.5 years/short time) with the Beast. Remember, the Little Horn is born AFTER the 10 Arise, he arises later, so the ONE HOUR of power is all about the Beast System where Israel and the Mediterranean is ruled over as in 7 Heads over Israel.

You are placing too much value on Pergamum. It really means nothing more than Jesus saying, Hey, GREAT JOB my Church in Pergamum, you live in a city where one of Satan's Temples/Thrones is at and yo still keep the faith !! That is all it rally means, there were many temples to Jupiter and Zeus, Pergamum was just one of the 7 Churches. By the way 7 equals Divine Completion, so these 7 represents the complete Church Age.

Since the 8th king is one of the seven, which head is it? The 6th or the 7th?
I explained this above, the 8th King is OF THE SEVEN because he was OVER the 5 that had fallen, was over Rome until the fell and he was then placed in the bottomless pit where he became the King of the pit, then after he is released he will be over the Anti-Chriss effort to wipe out Israel once again. Thus HE WAS.................IS NOT..................YET IS. And he is also a King over the Bottomless Pit.
 

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The Anti-Christ will have Assyrian (Turk/Iraqi parts of Syria) blood. But he must be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and arise to power out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Territory on a map). So, he's Assyrian by blood, he's born in Greece which is in the E.U.
Revelation Man. I think you will find that the Beast is born in Assyria or Babylon.
 

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Living waters do not flow out of Jerusalem but out of New Jerusalem in the Revelation.

You have the wrong people. The non-elect who you still believe are the elect.
The Day Of The Lord, The Last Day!

You don't want to see the Lords fire below consuming men as they stand upon their feet, let's pretend like it doesn't exist in Zechariah 14:12 in "Denial"

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 

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Now I know you're guessing. Daniel 11 is referring to Antiochus IV Epiphanes, who is a biblical type of Antichrist, but your magic P.C mouse has highlighted OId Testament prophetic passages already fulfilled, and dragged them into another time zone.

No Back to the Future time machines for your mouse in Daniel 11, unfortunately. Daniel 12 and Revelation 10 are speaking of the same things, and Antiochus is shown very clearly to be the type of the man of sin of 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and the Antichrist in Daniel 12.
No. Not the Antiochus blindness. Could you make something else up or is that all you got for Daniel 11
 

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Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?​


You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And
the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.rt
 

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The Future (Man Of Sin) (The Beast) Seen Below, A "Jew" From The Lineage Of David, Judaism Isn't Going To Receive A Gentile Or Muslim As Messiah/Moshiach

Chabad.org

What Is the Jewish Belief About Moshiach (Messiah)?

What is the belief in Moshiach?​

One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one G‑d, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete G‑d’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for G‑d in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.
Well God put an end to that pipe-dream in A.D 70. He had already shown who His Messiah is by raising Him from the dead.

Judah is just a little slow to learn.
 

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The Anti-Christ will have Assyrian (Turk/Iraqi parts of Syria) blood. But he must be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and arise to power out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Territory on a map). So, he's Assyrian by blood, he's born in Greece which is in the E.U. The 10 arise out of the "Head" (Territory) first, the number 10 stands for completion in God speak, not 10. Thus the 10 Commandments and 10 Plagues represents God's full laws and Judgment. In Rev. 2:10 Smyrna were told they would have tribulation 10 days, that means the complete church age because Jesus says all time on earth is tribulation in John 16:33. We know the 10 Brides represents the full church, so UNDERSTANDING what 10 really means in God speak is very essential.


Jesus was merely lifting up the Pergamum Church because even with a Temple unto Zeus, which was really Baal or Satan, they continued in their faithfulness, but that does not mean "Satan's ONLY THRONE" was in Pergamum, as you say, he is the god of this whole world. But Zeus and Jupiter temples were in many places. So, Jesus is merely saying, Hey, even though there is a Temple to Satan's Power there in you city, you have remain ed Faithful. That in no way is saying the Anti-Christ will arise in Turkey, as some think.

As per THE CROWNS, since Satan is over the whole world he has a crown over every city, nation etc. in the world, remember Luke 4, Satan took Jesus and should him the kingdoms of ALL THE WORLD? Which were given unto him, so te only reason the CROWNS are shown on the 7 Heads (VERY IMPORTANT) is that there are 7 Kingdoms that will Beast over or Rule over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region down through the ages while Israel is in the land, the 2000 years she was as Dead Men's Bones matters not, this is about Beast powers over the people of Israel. The Ottoman Empire nor the Brits were Beasting over Israel, so the 7 Heads are this, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome AND the Coming Anti-Christ once he heals the wound to the figurative 7 headed beast by conquering Israel during the 70th week. Rome fell to Christianity, Jesus said my church will not be overcome by the gates of hell, the blood of the church overcame the Roman Beast, we turned her from a Beast to a conveyor belt of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, thus the Mortal Wound of the figurative beast.

God IDENTIFIES all three Beasts via the CROWNS, Rev. 12 is the Dragon/Satan thus he has CROWNS on the 7 Heads in the Region, just as he is over the whole world. The Rev. 13 Beast only has CROWNS on the 10 Horns/Kings because they are the reunified Europe or E.U. They can be 20-30 nations, but 10 means the COMPLETE NUMBER THEREOF in God speak. The Scarlet Colored Beast is not Satan nor the Anti-Christ, that is why he has NO CROWNS on any heads or horns in Rev. 17 !! He is Scarlet nor Red because he is not Satan, he is Apollyon, the Demon locked into the pit when Rome fell via the Mortal Wound. He was placed over the Mediterranean Sea Region by Satan, thus he was OF THE SEVEN, and he is an 8th (King of the Pit). He was over Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, he will be released at the 1st Woe and will be over the Anti-Christ. Thus he is of the 7 and is an 8th with NO CROWNS himself, he arises from the bottomless pit right after that verse. God loves His riddles.


This is God demonstrating that the LAST BEAST will be a Man, not a Nation because he both ARISES (Mountain) and FALLS (as a king that falls) whereas this happened to none of the other Beasts they all passed their kingdoms on to others. Thus the LAST BEAST is called a Man in Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20, God wants us to know that the last beast is ONE MAN who will both arise and fall as the only Beast of the end times. (God loves His riddles). The 10 (E.U.) receive no power [as a Beast over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region] except for ONE HOUR (3.5 years/short time) with the Beast. Remember, the Little Horn is born AFTER the 10 Arise, he arises later, so the ONE HOUR of power is all about the Beast System where Israel and the Mediterranean is ruled over as in 7 Heads over Israel.

You are placing too much value on Pergamum. It really means nothing more than Jesus saying, Hey, GREAT JOB my Church in Pergamum, you live in a city where one of Satan's Temples/Thrones is at and yo still keep the faith !! That is all it rally means, there were many temples to Jupiter and Zeus, Pergamum was just one of the 7 Churches. By the way 7 equals Divine Completion, so these 7 represents the complete Church Age.


I explained this above, the 8th King is OF THE SEVEN because he was OVER the 5 that had fallen, was over Rome until the fell and he was then placed in the bottomless pit where he became the King of the pit, then after he is released he will be over the Anti-Chriss effort to wipe out Israel once again. Thus HE WAS.................IS NOT..................YET IS. And he is also a King over the Bottomless Pit.
The emphasis I placed is not on Pergamum or any one of the multitude of territories and cities you and the other people who have engaged in this thread have come up with.

The emphasis I placed is on what the church in Pergamum were guilty of, and the wording of Christ's warning to them about what would happen if they do not repent - which is what will happen to the church at the close of the Age. The emphasis I placed is on the conditions existing in the church in Pergamum and how that will help us to identify the beast and the seat of the beast at the close of the Age (wherever that city may be) - because it was a statue to Zeus that Antiochus had placed in the temple a couple of hundred years before, and it was eating sacrifices made to (which idol, do you think, bearing in mind that there was a temple in Pergamum to the one considered the king of the gods - Zeus?) that Christians had made themselves guilty of.

And we know that the false prophet will build an image to the beast. We also know that the man of sin will show himself forth as being God.

So when we see all this and Christians doing what the Christians in the church in Pergamum were doing, then we will be able to identify who Revelation's beast is.

I'm glad he comes out of so many different nations (going by the multitude of territories or countries yourself and all the posters here said he will appear) - because Revelation 13 after all does say he will rise from out of the sea.

I'm satisfied you've all made your guesses as to which city his seat will be. But I have not, and did not in my post.
 

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The Day Of The Lord, The Last Day!

You don't want to see the Lords fire below consuming men as they stand upon their feet, let's pretend like it doesn't exist in Zechariah 14:12 in "Denial"

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
I know it's not going to be any point pointing this out to you yet again, but for the sake of any discerning saints (those who can actually read) and who **might** read this:

1 Corinthians 3:13
"Each one's work [érgon] shall be revealed. For the Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try each one's work as to what kind it is.

1. Throughout the New Testament (and without even one exception to the rule), the Greek word érgon refers to the works of God / Christ, or of man, or of the devil - and there is a very long list of verses using the word - by far the majority of them being a reference to the works of men.

2. The word stoicheîon only refers to the rudiments of this world - never to the physical elements of the earth: Galatians 4:3; Galatians 4:9; Colossians 2:8; Colossians 2:20; Hebrews 5:12.

3. In every verse it's found, the word parérchomai is used interchangeably for "passing by", "passing closeby", "coming near" or "to seize upon, to come upon". Here is an example:

Acts 24:7:
"But the chief captain Lysias came upon [parérchomai] us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands."

2 Peter 3:10
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall [parérchomai] with a great noise.

and the [stoicheîon] shall be dissolved [lýō] with fervent heat [kausóō], the earth also and the works [érgon] that are therein shall be burned up [katakaíō].

2 Peter 3:10 could be translated into English as:

"The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. On that day the heavens will seize upon [parérchomai] men with a rushing noise, burning up their works [érgon] and melting the rudiments of this world [stoicheîon] with fervent heat."

.. and 2 Peter 3:10-12 could be translated this way because that's what the words used in 2 Peter 3:10-12 mean in every other New Testament verse where the same words appear:

Etc. The words do not refer to the actual burning up of the elements of the earth. The earth does not have works. Rocks do not have works.

The metaphor that all prophetic books of the Bible is saturated with is often mixed with the same type of hyperbole found in the metaphorical scriptural statements you are quoting.
 
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2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.rt
2 Peter 3:8 is doing nothing more than showing that the Lord is outside of time in his eternal spiritual, one day is a thousand years "No Literal Time", it's that simple
 
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I know it's not going to be any point pointing this out to you yet again, but for the sake of any discerning saints (those who can actually read) and who **might** read this:

1 Corinthians 3:13
"Each one's work [érgon] shall be revealed. For the Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try each one's work as to what kind it is.

1. Throughout the New Testament (and without even one exception to the rule), the Greek word érgon refers to the works of God / Christ, or of man, or of the devil - and there is a very long list of verses using the word - by far the majority of them being a reference to the works of men (the list is provided in a table below this article).

2. The word stoicheîon only refers to the rudiments of this world - never to the physical elements of the earth: Galatians 4:3; Galatians 4:9; Colossians 2:8; Colossians 2:20; Hebrews 5:12 (the verses are quoted below this article).

3. In every verse it's found, the word parérchomai is used interchangeably for "passing by", "passing closeby", "coming near" or "to seize upon, to come upon" (the list is provided in a table below this article). Here is an example:

Acts 24:7:
"But the chief captain Lysias came upon [parérchomai] us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands."

2 Peter 3:10
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall [parérchomai] with a great noise.

and the [stoicheîon] shall be dissolved [lýō] with fervent heat [kausóō], the earth also and the works [érgon] that are therein shall be burned up [katakaíō].

2 Peter 3:10 could be translated into English as:

"The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. On that day the heavens will seize upon [parérchomai] men with a rushing noise, burning up their works [érgon] and melting the rudiments of this world [stoicheîon] with fervent heat."

.. and 2 Peter 3:10-12 could be translated this way because that's what the words used in 2 Peter 3:10-12 mean in every other New Testament verse where the same words appear:

Etc. The words do not refer to the actual burning up of the elements of the earth. The earth does not have works. Rocks do not have works.

The metaphor that all prophetic books of the Bible is saturated with is often mixed with the same type of hyperbole found in the metaphorical scriptural statements you are quoting.
Your reformed claims in symbolic allegory are "Laughable" this earth will be literally "Dissolved", It's Amazing How Far One Will Go In Open Denial Of Simple Biblical Truth

Literal Fire From Heaven, Just Like Sodom And Gomorrah Was "Destroyed"!

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


Nahum 1:5KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
 

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2 Peter 3:8 is doing nothing more than showing that the Lord is outside of time in his eternal spiritual, one day is a thousand years "No Literal Time"
2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

It's a warning not to be ignorant of this one thing. HEY, DON'T MISS THIS. This is important. It is the day of the Lord and to the Lord a day is as 1000 years.

Well, what is going to happen in this 24 hour Day of the Lord. No. be not ignorant of this one thing that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Warning and all, you still can't get it.
 

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2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

It's a warning not to be ignorant of this one thing. HEY, DON'T MISS THIS. This is important. It is the day of the Lord and to the Lord a day is as 1000 years.

Well, what is going to happen in this 24 hour Day of the Lord. No. be not ignorant of this one thing that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Warning and all, you still can't get it.
Yes I get it, you and many others "Falsely" believe and teach the day of the Lord is 1,000 literal years long, now thats a bucket full of Malarkey

There's a reason why you were beating around the bush, because you don't believe it yourself, and you know well the teaching is Malarkey
 
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Daniel 11 is not talking about "THE" Antichrist. It is talking about "AN" Antichrist. The person in Daniel 11 is shown to die during the great tribulation.

Daniel 11
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Daniel 12
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

I believe that Daniel 11 is referring to the 7th king, the rider on the white horse and not "THE" Antichrist, who is the man of sin.

Matthew 24
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Daniel 11 predicted the course of world history involving continual warfare between two great Empires, the legacy of Alexander the Great. The Seleucid Dynasty identified as Assyria, the King of the North, and the Ptolemaic dynasty, the King of the South, ie. Egypt including Libya.

Daniel (11: 40) is finally directed to jump two thousand years until the `Time of the End .` These two areas in the Middle East would again return to the focus of world attention. Each contending for key leadership of the Arab countries to be recognised as the Moslem Messiah.

In the past there has been Nasser of Egypt and Qaddafi of Libya, Hussein of Iraq, etc. God predicted they would fail, and fail they did. (Dan. 11: 35 - 43) foretells that eventually, at the `Appointed Time, ` the King of the North will prevail. Herein is established, beyond doubt or controversy, that the final leader of Isalm, the Moslem messiah, will unmistakably appear in the area of the ancient Assyrian Empire: the King of the North. In fact his nationality is specifically confirmed as `the Assyrian, ` by the prophets Isaiah (10: 24 & 31: 8) and Micah (15: 5).

Ancient Assyria consisted of the present-day nations of Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Quite specifically, it is thus documented that, it is from this composite area that this leader will come. These are the three nations who obviously will consolidate in the foreseeable future as the power-base for the forceful Charismatic leader of Islam.

In the normal course of events the influence and authority of any dictator is restricted to his immediate national sphere of supremacy. Only some cataclysmic international political, economic or military emergency can provide the opportunity for expansion. In this instance, the aftermath of World War 3 and the complete annihilation of the Russian Army will create a political vacuum to be exploited. The great nations of the world will demand cessation of all conflict. Into this situation a seemingly benevolent leader will convince everyone that he has the solution for every international problem. As confirmation of his capabilities, he will cite the successful transformation of the previously volatile Middle East. Further, he will negotiate and conclude a seven year peace-treaty with the Nation of Israel. (Daniel 8:25 & 9:27)
 

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Let all that has breath praise and thank the glorious Lord . Praise GOD for HIS mercy given us in CHRIST JESUS .
The only NAME whereby one can be saved . Now let all dance as king david did unto the glorious LORD .
 

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Daniel 11 predicted the course of world history involving continual warfare between two great Empires, the legacy of Alexander the Great. The Seleucid Dynasty identified as Assyria, the King of the North, and the Ptolemaic dynasty, the King of the South, ie. Egypt including Libya.
Partly?

Daniel (11: 40) is finally directed to jump two thousand years until the `Time of the End .` These two areas in the Middle East would again return to the focus of world attention. Each contending for key leadership of the Arab countries to be recognised as the Moslem Messiah.
Well, don't they say that it jumps ahead 2000 years in verse 21?

21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

I always wondered why the jump to the end of years was not made in Daniel 11:5-6.

5 And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.

6 And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.

This is tough stuff to understand.


In the past there has been Nasser of Egypt and Qaddafi of Libya, Hussein of Iraq, etc. God predicted they would fail, and fail they did. (Dan. 11: 35 - 43) foretells that eventually, at the `Appointed Time, ` the King of the North will prevail. Herein is established, beyond doubt or controversy, that the final leader of Isalm, the Moslem messiah, will unmistakably appear in the area of the ancient Assyrian Empire: the King of the North. In fact his nationality is specifically confirmed as `the Assyrian, ` by the prophets Isaiah (10: 24 & 31: 8) and Micah (15: 5).

Isaiah 10
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.

Isaiah 31
8 Then shall the Assyrian fall with the sword, not of a mighty man; and the sword, not of a mean man, shall devour him: but he shall flee from the sword, and his young men shall be discomfited.

Micah 5
5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

But don't forget these

Isaiah 14
3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Ancient Assyria consisted of the present-day nations of Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Quite specifically, it is thus documented that, it is from this composite area that this leader will come. These are the three nations who obviously will consolidate in the foreseeable future as the power-base for the forceful Charismatic leader of Islam.
And yet, he was and is not and will come again.
In the normal course of events the influence and authority of any dictator is restricted to his immediate national sphere of supremacy. Only some cataclysmic international political, economic or military emergency can provide the opportunity for expansion. In this instance, the aftermath of World War 3 and the complete annihilation of the Russian Army will create a political vacuum to be exploited. The great nations of the world will demand cessation of all conflict. Into this situation a seemingly benevolent leader will convince everyone that he has the solution for every international problem. As confirmation of his capabilities, he will cite the successful transformation of the previously volatile Middle East. Further, he will negotiate and conclude a seven year peace-treaty with the Nation of Israel. (Daniel 8:25 & 9:27)
I think you are mixing the 7th and the 8th kings. I believe it will be the 7th king that will be the rider on the white horse at the opening of the 1st seal. He is "AN" Antichrist. I believe the 7th king is the one that confirms a 7 year covenant. He will claim to be the Christ and will seek to fulfill in the eyes of Israel the 70th week of Daniel. However, he is not "THE" Antichrist.

THE Antichrist is the eighth king who is the man of sin. Two different people. THE Antichrist is the Assyrian and the King of Babylon who was and is not and will come again. The word tells who the Antichrist is.
 

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Yes I get it, you and many others "Falsely" believe and teach the day of the Lord is 1,000 literal years long, now thats a bucket full of Malarkey

There's a reason why you were beating around the bush, because you don't believe it yourself, and you know well the teaching is Malarkey
I'm not beating around the bush. I'm making it as simple as I can so you can have a fraction of a chance of getting it. If you can't get what you are warned about in the Word, how can I proceed at a reasonable pace?
 

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Wrong. A Beast that rises from the sea is a Kingdom. Let's get it right as opposed to a Beast that rises from the earth.
The Bible tells us what "water" represents..."peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues". Therefore, a beast rising from the sea is a nation arising among a densely populated area, as did Babylone, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.
So, what then about a kingdom arising "from the Earth" which is the antithesis of the sea, and went on to become a superpower capable of enforcing the Mark of the Beast on everyone? That is a nation that arose in a sparsely populated land yet grew into a might nation, the mightiest in all history...the Protestant Reformers would easily identify it today.

Some people believe that. Not everyone. There are plenty of opinions on the subject. Thanks Phoneman for your interesting opinions on prophecy.
I'm proud to be among those who believe this way because it was the way EVERY SINGLE PROTESTANT IN THE WORLD believed for over 300 years since the time of Luther until Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurist ideas crept into the true church, and today my Protestant Historicism is almost forgotten but just as true today as it was back then.

I don't mind that people care nothing about why we believed Historicism for so many centuries and now choose to believe Jesuit lies...the Israelites took only a couple hundred years to learn the satanic ways of the Egyptians yet God was able to unlearn them by His truth. History will repeat itself, praise God, and I hope you give Historicism the consideration it deserves and the historic unanimity it warrants ;)