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Do you believe "being left therein" will be in New York and Los Angeles
Its not relevant, I think most every Jew, as I think I stated in the original post, will be living in Israel or Judah by that time. Prophecy tells us that. Who would have believed 100 years ago that 10 million Jews would be living in Israel in 2022 ? You are going to the nth degree to prove what? Anyone with prophetic understanding should know the 144,000 is not a real number, do you think the New Jerusalem also adds up to exactly 144,000 million square furlongs? No, that is God speak for Fulness x Completion. Once a person finally gets that the Seals are not Judgments and that God's Judgments only start in Rev. 8, then they can see the 144,000 for who the really are, ALL Israel fleeing Judea, go reread it and take off the colored glassed,
IMAGINE it says Israel flees there and are protected by God and then look at all the other lingo there that would MATCH exactly what God would do if the 144,000 were Israel fleeing. Let me insert it just to show you. Look, you are an intelligent guy, I know that, I think you get off-tracked here and there, but we all have at times.
So, lets look at this from the light that no wrath starts until Rev. 8, and the Seals are Jesus foretelling what ( seals 1-5) the Anti-Christ will soon bring over 42 months and then Seal number 6 is Jesus foretelling us what God's Wrath will bring over a 42 month period, then we can look at Rev. 7 as the Jews fleeing Judea just before God's Wrath (Which matches Zech. 13:8-9 and Zech. 14:1-2) in Rev. 8 begins and we can thus see all the LINGO would match the very things God would say, we have to get over the MENTAL BLOCK or TUNNEL VISION we have from being taught the 144,000 are special called super preachers, I was taught the same thing brother. LETS LOOK. Lets pretend its says Israel, just like we do with The Woman in Rev. 12 because that is what it really means in Rev. 12 right? But MANY don't see that either. Now, give this a chance. Seals are Prophesies by Jesus not plagues, and the Trumps begin the Wrath. LETS GO.
Rev. 7:1 And
(1)after these things I
(2)saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the
(3)wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east,
(4)having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to
hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying,
(5)Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And
(6)I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
So, lets start with point #6
6.) The 144,000 are from all the tribes of Israel, they are 12,000 from each tribe, 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 12,000 and 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 thus = 144,000 so lets say I am right here and "pretend" that these numbers being timed by (12)Fulness x Completeness(10) is God telling us in code this is ALL Israel, I mean He did the exact same thing with "The Woman" why are we amazed God gives us codes here? So, if John would have stated that Israel will rule the world in the end, those letters via the book of Revelation would have been confiscated, the 7 Churches shut down, men killed for blaspheme and sedition against Rome, so when John spoke of the World or even Rome, he used "Babylon", he couldn't say Israel was going to rule the whole world that and God was going to destroy the World/Rome, so he used codes !! Why does this not register with the masses here and all over? Rome had just sacked Israel in AD 70, so lets face it, 20 plus years later the Romans did not want to hear Israel was going to rule the whole world, led by Jesus, so God who wrote this, and allowed John to transcribe it via visions and utterances from Angels/Jesus, wrote the things he saw and heard, that's why he has 1200 ANDS in the book of Revelation. God designed this book so that all his references to Israel ruling and being saved were cryptically encoded, and all his references to the world, which Rome thought they ruled, and Rome were also cryptically encoded with Babylon etc. I started with point #6 to make these points, so 1-5 becomes more reasonable while "Imagining the 144,000 means Israel"
1.) After these things, means after the 6 Seals have been loosed from the scroll that contains the 7 Trumpet Judgments, and thus just before God's Wrath falls (when Seal 7 is opened) "NOTICE" how this corelates with the passage verbatim, via the next few verses. We see the Judgments are to be HELD UP.
2.) The four angels at the four corners hold up the Four Winds (God's Judgments) BUT WHY? Lets look.
3.) That the Winds (God's Judgments) should not blow (START/come to pass) on the (NOTICE) Earth, Seas nor any Trees UNTIL WHEN? Well, we see that in POINT #5, it all meshes. But again, where do we see the Earth, Seas and Tress get hurt? Rev. 8, that is one of my reasonings which finally made me understand, the Seals DO NOTHING, they are prophetic in nature, all the Wrath are within the 7 Trumps, hence Rev. 10, and the 7 Thunders now make perfect sense !! When the 7 Thunders sound time will be no more [as we know it]. We now also know why it was bitter for John when he swallowed the scroll, billions getting killed is a bitter thing. Amen !!
4.) This Angel has the Seal of the Living God, and that in essence means his task is to make sure these Jews (All Israel remember) get saved, JUST BEFORE God's Wrath starts, now REREAD Zecheriah13:8-9 where 1/3 get saved and then the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) says the DOTL has arrived, see how it all meshes with Rev. 7 being the Jews/Israel repenting (being SEALED by God) and then the Wrath starts in Rev. 8 ? The problem is no one is willing to come off their old thinking, that the Seals are Wrath, they are not, they are Jesus foretelling what is coming when the 7th Seal is loosed ! Maybe I have been to quick to say WRONG and not teach these things in full. We all have our short comings at times, in the last 6 years I have had a heart attack, Diabetes diagnosed, prostrate cancer with my prostrate taken out, followed by radiation and some of my bladder taken out also, and the I had COVID 19 right after I had a tick removed from my groin thinking it was a mole (SIGH). But God has been good, Amen. My sufferings have slowed me down, God used all of this to get me to DIG MUCH DEEPER, His calling years ago where in 1986 I was basically told in a vision the Anti-Christ was on earth, now came full circle, God had a plan all along to make me slow down where I could see all of these things much clearer.
5.) The Angel is told to HURT NOT the Earth, Sea nor Trees (Rev. 8) until Israel has been sealed or has repented. We as Christians are SEALED by the Holy Spirit, that is what this is.
6.) John heard the "Number" of them was 144,000 or ALL Israel, just like the Woman is all Israel, but that is the point, why would God need to protect SUPER PREACHERS or Super Jews from these plagues? He wouldn't, He needs to protect Israel from these things so there can be a 1000 year Kingdom Age, which is what Rev. 18:4 actually means when God calls His people to COME OUT OF HER (Babylon/Whole World) MY PEOPLE, that you partake not (WATCH) in her PLAGUES !! In Rev. 18:2 it says Babylon(Whole World) has become the Habitation of devils, well, who gets cast down to earth? Satan and his demons AND Apollyon and his hordes of demons are released from the bottomless pit.
So, if we step back, look at all the lingo in Rev. 7 my brother, and assume this is Israel fleeing Judea just before God's Wrath falls in Rev. 8, then Zech. 13:8-9 and 14:1 match up perfectly. Now all of the Angels utterances make much more sense also, God does not want His wrath to fall until Israel have Repented and fled Judea unto the "SAFE ZONE" in the Petra/Bozrah area. Think about it with an open mind don't just assume all things we know are concrete locks brother. I thought the same thing for 30 years.
